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Viking Chat => Lucky Pint => Topic started by: IDM on October 06, 2020, 07:51:36 pm
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Surprised no one has started a thread yet..
Are we all watching on ifollow.?
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No - I'm here...
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I would have done iFollow if it were a fiver. Fingers crossed for a good performance and hopefully for Feji and JJ to build a partnership.
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Same here - a fiver pitches it right - although a Tenner at home I would have gone for as Club would get more I suppose
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I don’t have a problem paying £10 for this.. if we could have gone to the game for a fiver I would have spent far far more than the additional five pounds on petrol alone, never mind any food etc.. plus all my household can watch for £10..
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Yeah I watched the first Checkatrade out of desperation for football but I'm not paying £10 again for a Checkatrade game. Would have been nice to see how Jones and Okenabirhie get on today though.
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I work on Saturdays so midweek games are the only ones I can watch, regardless of the tournament..
We’ve got a really strong starting 11 so it’s a shame some of you aren’t watching.. each to their own I suppose..
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What is the starting 11
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How we doing?
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Jones
Halliday
Wright
Anderson
John
Gomes
Whiteman
Richards
Copps
Fej
John-Jules
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Subs: Bottomley, Butler, Blythe, Hasani, Williams, Ravenhill, Taylor.
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https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/live-oldham-athletic-0-doncaster-rovers-0-underway-efl-trophy-tie-2994245
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Even and open game so far, Lawlor in nets for Oldham looking dodgy on crosses..
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Cheers Idm
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Giving the ball away cheaply need to put our foot on the ball with a calmer head
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But lots of pressure from us and plenty corners..
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Starting to get on top now, Lawlor looking very dodgy
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Marquis scores for Pompey...
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Have the goals dried up?
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One of these killer through the eye of a needle passes is going to come off soon..
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Have the goals dried up?
Why ask.? Because we didn’t score on Saturday and haven’t done so yet tonight.?
We do look very much like scoring and almost did just then..
I would be worried if we weren’t creating chances, but we.are, so I’m not..
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Starting to get on top now, Lawlor looking very dodgy
from dfp......
8.19 Brilliant save
Ian Lawlor produces a brilliant reaction save to deny Tyreece John-Jules. The Arsenal loanee met a James Coppinger corner with a powerful header but Lawlor managed to bat the effort away.
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The main thing is creating the chances.
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Halliday is having a good game..
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How's Jones doing?
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We need to do better than this. All the possession but clueless once we get near their goal.
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We’ve been really sloppy in midfield, need to sharpen up
We’ve also seen why Lawlor is not good enough, electing to punc when an easy catch was there for him
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0-0 HT.. playing quite well with plenty of chances but only one or two clear cut - especially where JJ headed and Lawlor saved.. two or three deflections and some wayward shooting mainly by Fej..
It’d still quite open but Rovers are the better side..
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How's Jones doing?
Not had too much to do but had a rush of blood coming out when he didn't need to then giving it straight to one of theirs when he needed to put his boot through it.
Looked comfortable apart from that.
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How's Jones doing?
He's not had much to do to be honest.
We are dominant but not got the cutting edge. Saying that, Lawlor has made a great reaction save from TJJ close in after a Copps corner.
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We’ve been really sloppy in midfield, need to sharpen up
We’ve also seen why Lawlor is not good enough, electing to punc when an easy catch was there for him
But but but he came from Manchester City so he must be great, right?
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Decent half, one of those where a goal for us would lead to two or three you feel. Fejiri skied a few, be nice to see him get one to settle him.
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Even and open game so far, Lawlor in nets for Oldham looking dodgy on crosses..
Thanks, IDM
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Bit crap really....
Like sensing a big storm but getting a little shower...
Very underwhelmed so far, but second half might bring a downpour...
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Key stats, Rovers 71% possession, 13 attempts, 4 on target, 85% passing accuracy, 100% tackles won just no goals
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We need to do better than this. All the possession but clueless once we get near their goal.
Clueless.?
It’s mostly Oldham’s blocking that is stopping our chances, apart from Fej’s wayward shots.
Take that corner placed back to Whiteman for example, good shot got blocked but hardly clueless.?
John, Halliday, Gomes all getting well forward..
We’ve not scored yet but there’s plenty of positives in that half..
Not sure what some of you are watching..
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A repeat of Saturday, then. We have to sort the fact that we don’t appear to have an out and out goal scorer in our ranks.
I get the creating chances thing, but it got us absolutely nothing on Saturday and, so far, nothing tonight. Previous games when we have scored, it’s noticeable that they have come from several different players.
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Are you actually watching the game Alan.?
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Very similar to sat, if we can maintain the press for the second half i can see Oldham running out of legs, we need to take our chances that our play has created. Unlucky for JJ that header a meter either side would of scored rather than straight at Lawler.
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Copps off Taylor on
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Good save by Jones from a direct free kick - his first real work of the night..
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Port vale beaten mighty Wigan 3-1 away
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Good save from Jones at the foot of his post from a free kick
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Agreed, DM to just focus on positives and keep creating the chances. He needs to keep anxiety out of it.
Get things moving again. We've got to carry on working hard.
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They've come out with a bit more intent which could suit us tbh.
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They seem on top according to the stats - we switched off again?
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This game is drifting away from us, similar to Saturday.
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It’s probably more even this half..
We are missing Copps I believe..
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A repeat of Saturday, then. We have to sort the fact that we don’t appear to have an out and out goal scorer in our ranks.
I get the creating chances thing, but it got us absolutely nothing on Saturday and, so far, nothing tonight. Previous games when we have scored, it’s noticeable that they have come from several different players.
I'd rather goals be scored by as many different players as possible rather than be over reliant on one.
You mean like Marquis? Who had a barron spell after leaving us? Have faith.
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1 down
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That was coming.
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Good strike from a direct feee kick..
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There’s a pattern starting to formulate.
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Sounds a good free kick. Unfortunately like Saturday I can't see us getting back into it
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That was coming.
Yes, seen as it closely followed Whiteman’s near miss at the other end...
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There’s a pattern starting to formulate.
A pattern.?
In two games.?
I ask you again, are you watching.?
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Will it make a difference either way?
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An exact repeat of Saturdays game.
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Will it make a difference either way?
That’s a no then..
You’re drawing conclusions on a performance you are not watching.? Or am I wrong.?
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Let's be honest here - these are 3rd bottom of League 2, with one point from 4 games........with the team we have out we should be beating them...
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Marquis scores for Pompey...
I see your Marquis & raise you Paul Green scoring for Boston United 😀
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What is the score?
You’re watching, you tell me.
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Let's be honest here - these are 3rd bottom of League 2, with one point from 4 games........with the team we have out we should be beating them...
We should but we haven’t taken our chances again
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I’m watching a decent performance from Rovers only missing a goal, and Oldham scored from a direct free kick.
It is far too early in the season to be making conclusions about trends and so forth.
You may have noted that I haven’t said owt about Saturdays game, because I didn’t see it:.
The most common thing happening when we get a chance is a deflection by Oldham..
Then again, if you were watching you would know that..
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What is the score?
You’re watching, you tell me.
Looking at his comments I'm not sure he is watching the game. I think he must be watching a different game to me.
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What is the score?
You’re watching, you tell me.
Looking at his comments I'm not sure he is watching the game. I think he must be watching a different game to me.
Read my last post, how often have the commentators said “deflected off Oldham”.?
And anyway, you have a reputation for negative posting don’t you.?
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This is poor from us
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It’s frustrating that we don’t shoot more.
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Not really bothered about this competition but every shot we have seems to get blocked really disappointing that we aren't making the most of our chances
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Game over
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Kinnel. 2-0.
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This is poor from us
I would say disjointed rather than poor, and just since Copps came off..
And now a breakaway goal from Oldham.. sucker punch that and probably wins the game.
Shame as this hasn’t been a 2-0 game despite the comments of some on here..
You win some, you lose some..
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A total lack of creativity in this 2nd half
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How anyone can defend losing 2-0 to a side at the bottom of league 2 with 1 point from 4 games is beyond me.
With the line up we’ve put out,
It’s a shambles
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Competition is a waste of time but scoreline simply not good enough with the team we've put out. DM will need the week off to put a few things straight.
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It has been pretty poor dikos, I think the game being off at the weekend will be a god send lots of work to do
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Looks like they didn’t get the memo....
Nobody seems to have learnt anything from the weekend, passing has been woefully inaccurate, energy levels are poor,
Bit of an uphill struggle against a team we ought to beat
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Especially as it’s not even Oldhams 1st 11
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Glad i didn’t waste a tenner on that tonight.
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It has been pretty poor dikos, I think the game being off at the weekend will be a god send lots of work to do
AND tulloch and the winger hopefully will be fit for the next match and it is a different world (hopefully )
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Two games in a row where we’ve fallen apart in the second half.
Moore’s interview on sat didn’t mention once about how the performance dropped off in the second half just said we need to take our chances. If he can’t see that the second half was dreadful then he’s not going to fix it
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This is poor from us
I would say disjointed rather than poor, and just since Copps came off..
And now a breakaway goal from Oldham.. sucker punch that and probably wins the game.
Shame as this hasn’t been a 2-0 game despite the comments of some on here..
You win some, you lose some..
Our better results have come from Copps either not being on or coming on as a sub...he takes hold of the game better when he comes on fresh....
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How anyone can defend losing 2-0 to a side at the bottom of league 2 with 1 point from 4 games is beyond me.
With the line up we’ve put out,
It’s a shambles
And here comes another out of the woodwork.. what do league positions after 4 games really mean.?
I’m not defending the result which was disappointing, but I will defend the performance especially first half..
The game changed when Copps went off - don’t you think.?
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We were pressed by MK Dons and struggled, didn’t take our chances against Wigan then second half pressed higher up the Pitch by Wigan, midfield disappeared and we looked clueless, tonight again had chances in the first half didn’t capitalise, second half Oldham pressed our midfield fell apart and we didn’t look like we knew how to break them down. 2 weeks off to work on it Darren
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Not one player came out of that game with any credit.
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This is poor from us
I would say disjointed rather than poor, and just since Copps came off..
And now a breakaway goal from Oldham.. sucker punch that and probably wins the game.
Shame as this hasn’t been a 2-0 game despite the comments of some on here..
You win some, you lose some..
It was poor, total waste of a tenner, our passing was sloppy in the midfield area in the first half and then second half we recreated the second half from Saturday, the team with the most endeavour and desire won, easily in the end
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Two games in a row where we’ve fallen apart in the second half.
Moore’s interview on sat didn’t mention once about how the performance dropped off in the second half just said we need to take our chances. If he can’t see that the second half was dreadful then he’s not going to fix it
I have to agree with dickos on this.
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We’re playing a league two side who aren’t even playing their strongest side. They haven’t won a game yet this season, lost 3 out of 4.
We’ve played a very strong 11 and lost 2-0.
And you say the performance was good,
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What is the score?
You’re watching, you tell me.
Looking at his comments I'm not sure he is watching the game. I think he must be watching a different game to me.
Read my last post, how often have the commentators said “deflected off Oldham”.?
And anyway, you have a reputation for negative posting don’t you.?
I think there is a difference between negativity and realism. Surely even you could see that we were poor tonight. How many saves did Lawlor have to make?
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And how many “deflections”’were there.?
Yes the second half was disappointing compared to the first but on another night we would have been 2 up at HT with the same performance..
Of course we will all have different opinions and tonight wasn’t great but it wasn’t that bad either, plenty of things to improve on but also plenty of positives to develop on that first half..
We aren’t going to win every game and we aren’t going to play great every minute.
That’s football and believe me I’ve seem far worse from Rovers over the years..
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Distinct lack of cutting edge again in front of goal, lots of build up with no end product.
I think Whiteman is struggling without a foil next to him, Gomez and especially Richards looking very much lost, i don't think this is his position and it shows more each game.
What would give for a Herbie type player because any creativity just got up and left when Copps went off. Should of been Williams for Richards, but i can understand DM wanting to preserve Copps.
Very disappointing second half again, we overplayed it again after decent buildup and no one was willing to have a go.
The weekend game being off comes at a good time for DM to take stock and reset.
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We’re playing a league two side who aren’t even playing their strongest side. They haven’t won a game yet this season, lost 3 out of 4.
We’ve played a very strong 11 and lost 2-0.
And you say the performance was good,
You’re being very critical tonight Dickos.
What did you think about the performances against Charlton and Bristol Rovers?
Haven’t heard from you for a while.
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dickos was commenting on tonights game though.
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You don’t seem to be taking into account the standard of the opposition in your analysis IDM
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We’re playing a league two side who aren’t even playing their strongest side. They haven’t won a game yet this season, lost 3 out of 4.
We’ve played a very strong 11 and lost 2-0.
And you say the performance was good,
You’re being very critical tonight Dickos.
What did you think about the performances against Charlton and Bristol Rovers?
Haven’t heard from you for a while.
99% of my posts aren’t negative,
I’ve been called a happy clapper dozens of times on here.
But we shouldn’t be saying we played well when we’ve just lost against a side at the bottom of the league below who played their reserve side.
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It's definitely a blessing that we don't have a game this weekend. Hopefully the time will be spent with coming up with a plan B or judging by the last two second halves a plan A would be nice. We've just been beaten by two teams who have the ability to tweak what they're doing, whereas we just keep plugging away with what's not working. Now is the time for Darren to earn his money on the training ground. It's becoming more apparent that this season's loanees aren't at the level of last season's.
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shit happens
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We’re playing a league two side who aren’t even playing their strongest side. They haven’t won a game yet this season, lost 3 out of 4.
We’ve played a very strong 11 and lost 2-0.
And you say the performance was good,
You’re being very critical tonight Dickos.
What did you think about the performances against Charlton and Bristol Rovers?
Haven’t heard from you for a while.
99% of my posts aren’t negative,
I’ve been called a happy clapper dozens of times on here.
But we shouldn’t be saying we played well when we’ve just lost against a side at the bottom of the league below who played their reserve side.
I’m with you on this, we were poor, plenty of possession first half, but never really troubled Lawlor, and second half for the second game on the trot we petered out and nevertested Lawlor at all. Copps usual close control deserted him first half, giving the ball away a few times, I’m not surprised he was subbed, he was making little impact in the game. Richards just looks lost at the minute and Madger has lost that energy he had in the early games. Fej looks really out of sorts
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You don’t seem to be taking into account the standard of the opposition in your analysis IDM
Aye and sometimes teams get to the semi final, final or win a cup but still end up a relegated.
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You don’t seem to be taking into account the standard of the opposition in your analysis IDM
Aye and sometimes teams get to the semi final, final or win a cup but still end up a relegated.
Not sure what that has to do with anything.
All I’m saying is in my opinion after you’ve lost to a side bottom of the league below who’ve played their reserves and you’ve played your first team you shouldn’t be defending the result by saying oh well it was a good performance
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You don’t seem to be taking into account the standard of the opposition in your analysis IDM
Aye and sometimes teams get to the semi final, final or win a cup but still end up a relegated.
Not sure what that has to do with anything.
All I’m saying is in my opinion after you’ve lost to a side bottom of the league below who’ve played their reserves and you’ve played your first team you shouldn’t be defending the result by saying oh well it was a good performance
To be fair, you can play well and still lose, it is a thing, you know?
My point has to do with everything as teams can unintentionally focus on one competition over another, which we may have done with the league and they may with the cups. Also, it's 4 f*cking games in, people were too positive when we were 3rd after 3 games but now we've had a small blip were shit. Let's judge how we are doing 15 games in at least and if we go out early in the Checkatrade and end up losing in the FA Cup to someone lower down, who cares as long as we're doing well in the league.
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We obviously haven’t done that though, look at the line up. No eyebrows would’ve been raised if that was a line up for a league game.
Of course we can play well and lose but if we played scawthorpe club and played well but lost would that be ok.
If Man City lost to barnsley do you think their fans would be saying oh it’s ok cause we played well.
We should be playing well against a league 2 reserve side but we should also be beating them comfortably
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You don’t seem to be taking into account the standard of the opposition in your analysis IDM
Aye and sometimes teams get to the semi final, final or win a cup but still end up a relegated.
Not sure what that has to do with anything.
All I’m saying is in my opinion after you’ve lost to a side bottom of the league below who’ve played their reserves and you’ve played your first team you shouldn’t be defending the result by saying oh well it was a good performance
To be fair, you can play well and still lose, it is a thing, you know?
My point has to do with everything as teams can unintentionally focus on one competition over another, which we may have done with the league and they may with the cups. Also, it's 4 f*cking games in, people were too positive when we were 3rd after 3 games but now we've had a small blip were shit. Let's judge how we are doing 15 games in at least and if we go out early in the Checkatrade and end up losing in the FA Cup to someone lower down, who cares as long as we're doing well in the league.
I think you need to get a grip.
Nobody is saying we are shit. People who watched the game last are simply pointing out that we were poor in most departments. Are we not allowed to say we played badly last night against inferior opposition or would you prefer to gloss over it by saying we were unlucky?
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You don’t seem to be taking into account the standard of the opposition in your analysis IDM
Aye and sometimes teams get to the semi final, final or win a cup but still end up a relegated.
Not sure what that has to do with anything.
All I’m saying is in my opinion after you’ve lost to a side bottom of the league below who’ve played their reserves and you’ve played your first team you shouldn’t be defending the result by saying oh well it was a good performance
To be fair, you can play well and still lose, it is a thing, you know?
My point has to do with everything as teams can unintentionally focus on one competition over another, which we may have done with the league and they may with the cups. Also, it's 4 f*cking games in, people were too positive when we were 3rd after 3 games but now we've had a small blip were shit. Let's judge how we are doing 15 games in at least and if we go out early in the Checkatrade and end up losing in the FA Cup to someone lower down, who cares as long as we're doing well in the league.
I think you need to get a grip.
Nobody is saying we are shit. People who watched the game last are simply pointing out that we were poor in most departments. Are we not allowed to say we played badly last night against inferior opposition or would you prefer to gloss over it by saying we were unlucky?
I don't think this post is aimed at me or you're reading between lines that aren't even there?
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You don’t seem to be taking into account the standard of the opposition in your analysis IDM
Aye and sometimes teams get to the semi final, final or win a cup but still end up a relegated.
Not sure what that has to do with anything.
All I’m saying is in my opinion after you’ve lost to a side bottom of the league below who’ve played their reserves and you’ve played your first team you shouldn’t be defending the result by saying oh well it was a good performance
To be fair, you can play well and still lose, it is a thing, you know?
My point has to do with everything as teams can unintentionally focus on one competition over another, which we may have done with the league and they may with the cups. Also, it's 4 f*cking games in, people were too positive when we were 3rd after 3 games but now we've had a small blip were shit. Let's judge how we are doing 15 games in at least and if we go out early in the Checkatrade and end up losing in the FA Cup to someone lower down, who cares as long as we're doing well in the league.
I think you need to get a grip.
Nobody is saying we are shit. People who watched the game last are simply pointing out that we were poor in most departments. Are we not allowed to say we played badly last night against inferior opposition or would you prefer to gloss over it by saying we were unlucky?
I don't think this post is aimed at me or you're reading between lines that aren't even there?
Your post!
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At least some can call it how it is and not get accused of being negative. The last 2 games have been almost a carbon copy of one another and yet some want to just dust it under the carpet. Now, thankfully, the manager has seen fit to question the mental strength of the team, so maybe he believes there actually is something basically wrong.
Maybe DM is onto something there, but it would help if we had one or two additions to sort a few issues out on the pitch.
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At least some can call it how it is and not get accused of being negative. The last 2 games have been almost a carbon copy of one another and yet some want to just dust it under the carpet. Now, thankfully, the manager has seen fit to question the mental strength of the team, so maybe he believes there actually is something basically wrong.
Maybe DM is onto something there, but it would help if we had one or two additions to sort a few issues out on the pitch.
In both games DM has failed to react to changes the opposition has made at HT, he’s just let the game plod along, maybe he should look a little closer to home