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Viking Chat => Lucky Pint => Topic started by: glosterred on March 09, 2021, 06:02:40 pm
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Tonight’s team
COYR
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No recognized striker :ohmy:
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Not sure we quite have the players to play a false 9 but looks like our hand has been forced. Any guesses who will be playing (at least nominally) up top?
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Not sure we quite have the players to play a false 9 but looks like our hand has been forced. Any guesses who will be playing (at least nominally) up top?
Looks like Madger, we need to give him some slack if thats the case, it is not his position
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Gomes will be up front. Surprised fej isn’t in the squad at all with AB saying he was available and hope bogle isn’t out too long, probs tired after playing 90 mins for the last 4/5 games but thought he would at least be on the bench. Be interesting to see how we play without a recognised striker, whether madger will play as a false 9 or not but In Butler I Trust.
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Gomes or Coppinger perhaps, or even a fluid rotation?
I'm glad Lokilo has finally been given a chance to start.
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Think Richards will play up front , strong can beat a man and get a shot away
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Bench looks weak.
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Bench looks weak.
I think the bench is the least of our worries Alan
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Tyreece's twitter shows him running today. At least that is some positive news going forward. We are down to the bare bones tonight though.
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How crap must Simoes be if Ed Williams gets on the bench before him
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Hopefully that front four can interchange and pull the defence all over the place
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You'd have to drop one of Sims, Richards, smith, balcombe or Robertson though....
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How crap must Simoes be if Ed Williams gets on the bench before him
Already 5 loanees.
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How crap must Simoes be if Ed Williams gets on the bench before him
With 5 loans in the squad then Simoes can’t play
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I wonder if Cameron John could do a job up top?
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Is Bogle injured?
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Wow. Gomes' movement around the box has come on leaps and bounds this season but enough to do a job as striker? Nobody's fault I suppose, but hope he surprises me.
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Has anyone heard news on bogle?!
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Yikes - this will be an odd set up!!
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Not got commentary yet.
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Yikes - this will be an odd set up!!
No recognised striker worked alright for Spain I suppose. No xavi and iniesta pulling the strings but we have Copps who is close enough.
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How crap must Simoes be if Ed Williams gets on the bench before him
With 5 loans in the squad then Simoes can’t play
Almost more to every story.
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Cmon lads! Up against it with no strikers but another 3 points here would be huge
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We’re back in black :rtid:
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Crewe commentary saying we're a big (height) side - I wouldn't have described us as that?
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floodlighting looks good
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Oxford already 1 up....
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How crap must Simoes be if Ed Williams gets on the bench before him
prob cos Williams isn’t on loan
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Peterborough 1 up also
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Anyone else finding the choppy camera footage is hurting their eyes? We've tried refreshing so don't think the issue is on our end.
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That was some pass from Bostock to Copps
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Wigan up at Plymouth
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Bogle hamstring, apparently.
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Bogle hamstring, apparently.
Fook - that will be a few weeks then
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Bristol beating Accrington
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Bostock pinging it about making it look easy!
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Well that was a b*llocks decision by the referee.
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How is it other teams can do everything to our keeper, but the slightest thing the other way around is called?
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Does Richards do much wrong there?
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Peterborough v Hull now 1:1
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Does Richards do much wrong there?
Nothing.
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Great move from Crewe ... thankfully went wide.
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Does Richards do much wrong there?
Nothing.
Just stands his ground. There's nothing in the laws of the game that says an attacker has to get out of the way of a keeper. Refs made that one up.
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Crewe starting to build up a bit of a head of steam and getting into our box at will. That goal being unfairly chalked off seems to have taken the wind out of our sails a bit.
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Crewe have gone up a gear here after we've had the best of it.
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Jones has to collect them - it was only 3 yards out!
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Seems like we can't get into the game at the mo. Need to stamp our authority, especially in midfield.
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Taylor Richards ....he’s not looking happy at all....
Smith too cavalier and giving the ball away far too often....
Lokilo should perhaps be on the left
We look devoid at the moment
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Looked like he got in between the Crewe keeper and defender, who got in each others way. Doesn't do owt wrong for me. Hard to tell, stream is choppier than coppinger on a North sea ferry.
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Crewe are a good side.
A draw tonight would be very good.
I don’t think that was a foul on the Crewe keeper and the goal should have stood.
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Smiths passing not at his usual standard.
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I can’t remember the last time we started a game without a recognised striker?
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Lincoln up and Wigan 2 up at Plymouth
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James should have hit it first time there...
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Blackpool up at MK
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Luck,luck,luck,luck,luck,luck,luck,luck......because skill is missing tonight
This performance is starting to get me angry....
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Having done everything to try and see if the stream will be any better, I'm quite confident it isn't on our end. If anyone reading has the ear of the camera operator tonight please try and let them know to see if they can rectify it, others on Twitter have said the same.
It's running at a choppy framerate and as someone with vertigo I'm actually finding it almost impossible to watch. Anytime there's a corner and the camera swings across it's very disorientating.
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James turned inside out, good effort from the Crewe lad there.
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we're looking a bit tired I think :chair:
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Faded badly after a decent start. Hoping we can make it to half time at 0-0.
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Richards really is hopeless at tackling isn’t he.
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Another needless free kick
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We missing bogle big time with his hold up play
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Were tired because we are chasing the balls we do not need to keep giving a -freaking- wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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Need HT badly!
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I think we need to take copps off, hate saying that, but he’s not at the races today. Tough as nobody is playing well, but he looks a bit off it. Williams on for him, more pace
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Passing is poor once we get to the half way line.
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HT
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Copps suddenly wakes up :silly:
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Get Sims on for Copps in the 2nd half.
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Copps needs to stay on. Smith needs to fond his range. Richards needs to up his game. Gomes is offering nothing. Bostock looks good again.
Crewe are a good side. But we knew that already.
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Pretty abject. Maybe this increased intensity has taken it out of the players, and we’re massively missing Bogle as an outlet. I’d definitely take a draw right now.
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id play James up front. Put John on for Gomez. Need more movement from the front men. Not many options when Bostock or Smith have the ball.
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Goalless
Guileless
Gutless
Copps off, Lokilo switched, Smith warned, ...everyone bollocked apart from Jones.....
I don’t mind losing to a better placed team, I do mind losing to a worse performance than a lower placed team....
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Maybe play Robertson up front?
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Need the front four to move more
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Get Robertson on for Smith.
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I'd bring Sims on for Copps, not because Copps has done anything wrong but everything is in front of Crewe. Get Sims on and he has that pace to get in behind them so we can turn them around. Would also agree with Robertson for Smith, Smith has struggled to get into it.
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Nothing happening up front.change needed for second half,need Simms on.
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Is it just me thinking it’s not been THAT bad?
We’ve offered little going forward but isn’t that to be expected if Gomes is up front?
We’ve mostly limited them so far, and if we can create from other areas (wide or set plays) we’ve got a chance.
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Happy at 0-0 think simms and Robertson will have a positive impact on the game in the 2nd half at some point
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Now is the time for Butler to earn his corn, saying the right things, and doing the right things in changing the tactics to deal with Crewe's domination of the match thus far.
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I’d swap John for Gomes and tell him to just hold the ball up and lay off to runners as we not getting chance to get up the pitch at the min
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Goalless
Guileless
Gutless
Copps off, Lokilo switched, Smith warned, ...everyone bollocked apart from Jones.....
I don’t mind losing to a better placed team, I do mind losing to a worse performance than a lower placed team....
Massive overreaction from folk like this,,,
Get a grip
Crewe were 2-0 up v Sunderland until the end the other week they’re a good side, we’ve not got a striker playing yet people spouting absolute negative drivel
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Crewe look the better sharper team and our loose passing is doing us in.
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Is it just me thinking it’s not been THAT bad?
We’ve offered little going forward but isn’t that to be expected if Gomes is up front?
We’ve mostly limited them so far, and if we can create from other areas (wide or set plays) we’ve got a chance.
Agree. What I would say is that this performance really does show how much Bogle brings to this team even when he is not scoring. Miss him badly.
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Is it just me thinking it’s not been THAT bad?
We’ve offered little going forward but isn’t that to be expected if Gomes is up front?
We’ve mostly limited them so far, and if we can create from other areas (wide or set plays) we’ve got a chance.
I’d hazard a guess and say “ yes” .......it is just you...lol
We are not looking like a team that deserves anything from this game...
We are supposed to be the BETTER team !
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I was hoping Gomes would at be a nuisance to Crewe but he's not even done that. I don't think their centre halves will need a shower tonight. Once again they seem to be getting crosses in far too easily.
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Is it just me thinking it’s not been THAT bad?
We’ve offered little going forward but isn’t that to be expected if Gomes is up front?
We’ve mostly limited them so far, and if we can create from other areas (wide or set plays) we’ve got a chance.
Agree. We had a perfectly good goal disallowed for bugger all. Crewe have had chances but haven’t taken them. I’d leave Copps on as he has that magic to unlock other. I’d pit Sims on for Gomes, shove Richards up top and maybe Robertson for Smith on the hour. If Copps is knackered, then Greaves for him.
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At least Crewe have found a copy of Now That's What I Call Music 26 for the half time tunes.......
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Goalless
Guileless
Gutless
Copps off, Lokilo switched, Smith warned, ...everyone bollocked apart from Jones.....
I don’t mind losing to a better placed team, I do mind losing to a worse performance than a lower placed team....
Massive overreaction from folk like this,,,
Get a grip
Crewe were 2-0 up v Sunderland until the end the other week they’re a good side, we’ve not got a striker playing yet people spouting absolute negative drivel
Dickos, instead of quoting an historical fact.....just state what you think is good about this performance......shouldn’t be hard?
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Is it just me thinking it’s not been THAT bad?
We’ve offered little going forward but isn’t that to be expected if Gomes is up front?
We’ve mostly limited them so far, and if we can create from other areas (wide or set plays) we’ve got a chance.
I’d hazard a guess and say “ yes” .......it is just you...lol
We are not looking like a team that deserves anything from this game...
We are supposed to be the BETTER team !
Doesn’t look like it.
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No changes yet.
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We’ve 6 midfielders on and Crewe are dominating? Says everything!
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Its games like this where we need a goal from a set piece and then just hang on. Nights like this are when championships are won.
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Having done everything to try and see if the stream will be any better, I'm quite confident it isn't on our end. If anyone reading has the ear of the camera operator tonight please try and let them know to see if they can rectify it, others on Twitter have said the same.
It's running at a choppy framerate and as someone with vertigo I'm actually finding it almost impossible to watch. Anytime there's a corner and the camera swings across it's very disorientating.
My coverage is fine mate.
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Goalless
Guileless
Gutless
Copps off, Lokilo switched, Smith warned, ...everyone bollocked apart from Jones.....
I don’t mind losing to a better placed team, I do mind losing to a worse performance than a lower placed team....
Massive overreaction from folk like this,,,
Get a grip
Crewe were 2-0 up v Sunderland until the end the other week they’re a good side, we’ve not got a striker playing yet people spouting absolute negative drivel
Dickos, instead of quoting an historical fact.....just state what you think is good about this performance......shouldn’t be hard?
I’m replying to your nonsense about teams lower down the table.
Crewe are a good side,
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Gomes is the falsest 9 I’ve seen for a long time.
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Early goal for us would help.
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Goalless
Guileless
Gutless
Copps off, Lokilo switched, Smith warned, ...everyone bollocked apart from Jones.....
I don’t mind losing to a better placed team, I do mind losing to a worse performance than a lower placed team....
Massive overreaction from folk like this,,,
Get a grip
Crewe were 2-0 up v Sunderland until the end the other week they’re a good side, we’ve not got a striker playing yet people spouting absolute negative drivel
Dickos, instead of quoting an historical fact.....just state what you think is good about this performance......shouldn’t be hard?
I’m replying to your nonsense about teams lower down the table.
Crewe are a good side,
Can’t argue with that.....but we ARE supposed to be better.....
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Sunderland 1 up at Pompey.
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Goalless
Guileless
Gutless
Copps off, Lokilo switched, Smith warned, ...everyone bollocked apart from Jones.....
I don’t mind losing to a better placed team, I do mind losing to a worse performance than a lower placed team....
Massive overreaction from folk like this,,,
Get a grip
Crewe were 2-0 up v Sunderland until the end the other week they’re a good side, we’ve not got a striker playing yet people spouting absolute negative drivel
Dickos, instead of quoting an historical fact.....just state what you think is good about this performance......shouldn’t be hard?
I’m replying to your nonsense about teams lower down the table.
Crewe are a good side,
Can’t argue with that.....but we ARE supposed to be better.....
Thing is football doesn’t work like that or else we might as well let hull and posh go up without playing!
In the real world with context getting a point or all 3 by been ugly and not playing well here would be a good result
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Gomes is the falsest 9 I’ve seen for a long time.
So false the 9 blew upside down.
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Gomes has been really poor since coming back from his injury. I know it’s a thankless task in an unfamiliar role but when he’s been running with the ball at his feet (more like his usual role) he’s so wasteful. He wouldn’t be anywhere near the first team for me at the moment, in midfield or further forward.
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Everyone else’s Ifollow just a black screen?
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1:0
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Plenty of time left.
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Looked offside that
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Whenever Crewe attack down the left no one is going with the overlapping player.
The Crewe scorer is in an offside position there.
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Looked offside that
I thought so too.
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Plenty of time left.
To do what? Threaten as little as we have so far? I’m hoping it stirs us into action but we’ve plodded and never looked like doing anything tonight.
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Unecessarry by Wright that
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Gomes needs pulling.
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Absolutley stupid from Joe Wright, that.
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Sims for Gomes.
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Games like this you don’t do what joe Wright did there it’s criminal
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Smith is having an off day, worst I’ve seen him
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Mistake after mistake after mistake....
It’s easy to say that teams that outclass us are “ decent” teams....but they are far too many....
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This looks dodgy for Reece.
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Looks like we are in self destruct tonight
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Time for butts to show us what he’s about as up to now he as changed nothing , at lest try something different as we could all see this coming
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not looking very promising this...
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John on for James
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Hopefully it isn’t a bad one.
Reece has had knee problems in the past.
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Really frustrating to watch. Smith has the ball in the edge of their box, tries to beat too many and next thing Reece James is having to stand up a one on one. Unnecessary.
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Squad starting to look very thin all of a sudden.
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Possible big mistake by butler that not sending bostock out early to see how fit he was to come off after 1 min of 2nd half so now no subs left to make with 30 mins left
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Richards needs to take his head out his arse. Looks disinterested
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Feel like if we’re going to get anything out of this we need to do it soon. With Copps & Richards on it’ll be like we’re playing with 9 men after 80 minutes. Richards looks to have given up already.
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Come on lads.
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This ref is an utter buffoon
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Ipswich v Lincoln 1:1
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Have to say, poor as we have been thus far, referee is having a shocker.
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Robertson booked having won the ball in a tackle.
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that wasn't a foul by Robertson
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Come on you Reds... :scarf:
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Unlucky Cam John. Great move down the left.
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Oooooooh CJ
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It’s coming.
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I get this hasn't been a stellar performance but i really don't think it has been as bad as some on this thread have made out.
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The more games I see, the more I'm convinced we need to replace Joe Wright over the summer too mistake prone
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Those couple of touches by John show why people are daft to think he can play in midfield. You can see how typical a centre half he is, just a shame he hasn't had a game there since October.
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The more games I see, the more I'm convinced we need to replace Joe Wright over the summer too mistake prone
He's made a couple today but I think he's usually quite a good player
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Now iVe lost the commentary and got a “ benny Hill “ bloody soundtrack playing....
Far too many shockers to be positive about...... at least Lokilo is getting a good run out..fnar,fnar
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Those couple of touches by John show why people are daft to think he can play in midfield. You can see how typical a centre half he is, just a shame he hasn't had a game there since October.
Agreed, his first touch isn’t great.
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Shall we just pack up and go home , fuming can’t even control a ball rolling slowly towards him
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Shame we have spoiled such a good position we were in after the Lincoln and Oxford results but have to say I’d happily take a play off place now!
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It’s coming.
See you stopped watching then....
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Urgency please, not tippy tappy at the back.
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Urgency please, not tippy tappy at the back.
Poor first half, knocking it around the back four despite losing, having plenty of the ball but not threatening a lot...sound familiar? ;)
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Crewe might as well take 9 outfield players off and let us just beat ourselves....
We have a bench full of young ones who could be given a go....pointless not playing them when the current team are looking this bad.....
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Not for the first time we are looking low on quality tonight- when we are good we are very good but when we are bad we can be shocking. Credit to Robertson who has looked pretty good to me since he came on.
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Crewe might as well take 9 outfield players off and let us just beat ourselves....
We have a bench full of young ones who could be given a go....pointless not playing them when the current team are looking this bad.....
We’ve not been able to make a sub since we made our third change on the hour...
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+5 stoppage
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On 88 minutes the commentator saying there is plenty of time left.
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Has Richards been told not to shoot?
He’s had 3 options to unleash at least one......he’ll be at Wednesday soon
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Why do we never have any players like that dale kid for Crewe he can just ghost past his marker with ease , we seem to come up against 1 every week or is it just us who are shit
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Lo kilo best rovers player tonight, the rest need to have a look in the mirror- poor
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very poor free-kick to give away. final nail in the coffin.
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Next.
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Well that was f**king shite!
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For as poor as that second half was, if Wright doesn’t make that stupid f**king mistake in his own half we come away with something.
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Well played Louis Jones.
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That was pretty bad even considering the shortage of players due to injury, we didn't seem to be able to mark up but the main problem was we kept giving them the ball. Back to basics unfortunately.
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Andy butler didn't seem happy with the ref at the end. Don't think we got much from the ref.
Always a tough ask with no striker mind.
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Well that was f**king shite!
Oh come on mate, credit where credit is due and all that, but we weren't THAT good!
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It was always a tough game..... never mind - let's hope the injuries don't bite us... I'm guessing Butler's honeymoon will be over - watch the usual critics come for him now...
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Andy butler didn't seem happy with the ref at the end. Don't think we got much from the ref.
The ref made some odd decisions, and not just against Rovers. Giving free-kicks for nothing tackles and missing other blatent fouls, for both teams.
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Robertson played well. Louis Jones had a good game. That's it.
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only 1 out of the next 4 games is against oppo in the top half (Oxford), and next game is against relegation threatened Northampton. All to play for this month!
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Andy butler didn't seem happy with the ref at the end. Don't think we got much from the ref.
The ref made some odd decisions, and not just against Rovers. Giving free-kicks for nothing tackles and missing other blatent fouls, for both teams.
Biggest one for me disallows our goal when no one touched the keeper and then gives no free kick when Jones is clattered at the other end
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Its games like this where we need a goal from a set piece and then just hang on. Nights like this are when championships are won.
You mean like the perfectly good one the ref decided to disallow because a Crewe player fouled the Crewe keeper.
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We just need to forget tonight we had no striker and then lost our two best players to injury,
People going off on one without considering any of these factors need to have a word with themselves
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Very poor game.did we play with ten men? Seemed like it as Gomes was not in the game. They seemed to win everything and have control of the game.I know we have injuries but we looked a poor second today.
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Very poor game.did we play with ten men? Seemed like it as Gomes was not in the game. They seemed to win everything and have control of the game.I know we have injuries but we looked a poor second today.
Richards is a great talent, but tonight he didn’t look bothered at all
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Very poor game.did we play with ten men? Seemed like it as Gomes was not in the game. They seemed to win everything and have control of the game.I know we have injuries but we looked a poor second today.
Richards is a great talent, but tonight he didn’t look bothered at all
Controversial opinion perhaps but I'm fed up with him. He trots about, doesn't get after the ball and when he does get it, a lot of the time he runs into three defenders and loses it.
He's obviously got plenty of skill and talent but I'm not sure he's what we need. I feel like Moore nursed him through the season to get the best out of him, but we don't need luxury players in a scrap for the top six in League One.
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Weren’t saying that about Richards when he was rolling winners into the net every game 4 or 5 weeks ago.
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Weren’t saying that about Richards when he was rolling winners into the net every game 4 or 5 weeks ago.
That was 4 or 5 weeks ago, tonight is what mattered, he didn’t look bothered and was missing for large parts of the game. I like him, I think he is a great talent, but he needs to up his workrate for me
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Weren’t saying that about Richards when he was rolling winners into the net every game 4 or 5 weeks ago.
That was 4 or 5 weeks ago, tonight is what mattered, he didn’t look bothered and was missing for large parts of the game. I like him, I think he is a great talent, but he needs to up his workrate for me
Was actually responding to Alias’s comment tbf. I agree he wasn’t great tonight, but to make the wider statement that he’s “not what we need” I feel is lacking perspective when Richards has been the difference for us in quite a number of games this season.
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Weren’t saying that about Richards when he was rolling winners into the net every game 4 or 5 weeks ago.
That's fair, but I'm commenting on tonight and his general play over several games. As I said, he has great ability but he doesn't show it often enough. He is clearly capable of being a terrific player at a high level but he has a ways to go and he isn't going to get there in the next two months, which means it might not benefit Rovers at all if he ever gets there.
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Tonight was always going to be tough with us not having a recognised striker on the pitch and crewe were unbeaten at home in 10 games before tonight.
Think richards does well when picking the ball up from deep and running at the defence which he did well tonight but didn’t get the shot off when he needed to, he does need to get better defensively tho, he gives too many unnecessary free kicks away.
Jones played well and lokilo always looked dangerous when on the ball looking to take his man on every time he got it and also put a few decent corners in one of which we scored from and shouldn’t have been disallowed.
Bad decisions from the officials cost us that game today. Our goal should’ve been allowed as it was the crewe player who pushed the keeper and their goal he looked way offside.