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Viking Chat => Lucky Pint => Topic started by: glosterred on April 02, 2021, 11:32:03 am
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Today’s team
COYR
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Quite like that, it feels more solid through midfield. Wonder if we might see a diamond with copps as a ten?
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Glad we’ve gone to a 433 with bostock holding and dictating from deep and then Robertson and Smith pressing high and helping the front three.
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Must admit, I might have played Wright at full back and brought in John but quite like the look of that.
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Halliday must have something on AB been poor for weeks still gets picked and John still out in the cold.
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The 433 didn’t suit us at fleetwood , I would of gone 352 but hopefully 433 works and we get back on track
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I would have picked John alongside Anderson at centre back.
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Not keen on that side myself. No pace in that midfield at all. All sitters, no one breaking into the box.
Let's hope that Smith can get forward to support the forward.
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Like the look of that team.
Copps wide or in the hole? 2 up top ?
We will have to see.
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Not keen on that side myself. No pace in that midfield at all. All sitters, no one breaking into the box.
Let's hope that Smith can get forward to support the forward.
Robertson and Smith are no slouchers. Sure one or both will be told to make offensive runs.
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So far the guesses on here are 433, 352 possible diamond. Personally I’d go for 4-4-2-2 but some may say that’s cheating
COYR
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Not keen on that side myself. No pace in that midfield at all. All sitters, no one breaking into the box.
Let's hope that Smith can get forward to support the forward.
If we play it well, there's no reason James and Halliday can't get in to the box, but with Fejiri alongside Bogle we should cause problems in the box... Unless we're limp and lacklustre like MK Don's match.
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Not keen on that side myself. No pace in that midfield at all. All sitters, no one breaking into the box.
Let's hope that Smith can get forward to support the forward.
If we play it well, there's no reason James and Halliday can't get in to the box, but with Fejiri alongside Bogle we should cause problems in the box... Unless we're limp and lacklustre like MK Don's match.
We have to up the tempo. If we don’t get out of 3rd gear then we will not win many or any football matches.
We need to use both our full backs offensively today. we have cover in any of Bostock, Smith and Robertson when they bomb forward.
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Very early but a good start. COYR!!!!
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Wasn't surprised to hear parkin and Mills perplexed by the appointment of butler.
Seems the commentator is too.
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They never take notice of anything below 6th place in the Prem. Clueless
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Bloody hell!!!
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Oh dear
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James was poor there. Not strong enough
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f**king useless glad I'm at work
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Defence again.
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Here we go again FFS!
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We’re too slow and laboured again
No tempo at all
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Is it a waste of money buying this commentary? Hope not.
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Jones needs to come out and smother that.
But yes James out muscled.
Do not understand Balcolmbe not playing myself.
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iFollow commentary is ahead of the video.
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Jones needs to come and smother that doesn’t he.
Don’t understand Balcolmbe not playing myself.
Because Jones has done really well?
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Big oops, but not unexpected....
Defence is not strong enough and putting the keeper under pressure doesn’t help....
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Getting farcical now.
Just glad the contract negotiations aren't a distraction :rolleyes:
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15 games ago Anderson is in a better starting position and goes and heads that.
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Jones needs to come out and smother that.
But yes James out muscled.
Do not understand Balcolmbe not playing myself.
No way Jones was in any way to blame for that.
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15 games ago Anderson is in a better starting position and goes and heads that.
Yep absolutely no idea why he doesn’t go for that. What’s happened to him?!
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iFollow commentary is ahead of the video.
I noticed that... Annoying
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iFollow commentary is ahead of the video.
I noticed that... Annoying
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Jones needs to come and smother that doesn%u2019t he.
Don%u2019t understand Balcolmbe not playing myself.
Because Jones has done really well?
Sorry he is not as dominant as Balcolmbe imo.
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Same old same old.powder puff shots.nothing happening up front.
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Bogle needs to get higher up, dropping deep when Fej has the ball in wide areas.
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Great defending there by Halliday.
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We're a mid table side, that's exactly where we will finish.
We were never going to stay the course this season. No strength in depth, and now a manager with zero experience.
Until we address that, mid table is as good as it will ever get.
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Jones needs to come out and smother that.
But yes James out muscled.
Do not understand Balcolmbe not playing myself.
No way Jones was in any way to blame for that.
We can’t blame Jones we can’t blame Butler but if that been Balcombe under DM they would both be to blame
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I didn’t see anything on the advertising boards in the 26th minute that the commentary team were on about at kick off.
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FFS can't get out of our own half now.
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When the ball goes out to Halliday or James in the full back positions, the second they stride forward with the ball they suffocate the front three. 30mins in but we are absolutely clueless. The commentary can bang on about posession as much as they like. What is it weve actually worked on that Butler and Bostock have mentioned in their pre match interviews? Where have we improved?
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Jones needs to come and smother that doesn%u2019t he.
Don%u2019t understand Balcolmbe not playing myself.
Because Jones has done really well?
Sorry he is not as dominant as Balcolmbe imo.
| Conceded per 90 | Shots Against per 90 | Saves per 90 |
| Jones | 1.19 | 4.63 | 3.44 |
| Balcombe | 1.47 | 4.13 | 2.66 |
Jones averages the most saves per 90 out of all keepers in League One. The issue isn't Jones, its the defence.
I'll give you Balcombe leaves his line more than Jones though.
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This is poor again, is Copps on the pitch?
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We're a mid table side, that's exactly where we will finish.
We were never going to stay the course this season. No strength in depth, and now a manager with zero experience.
Until we address that, mid table is as good as it will ever get.
Will you be posting if we win today?
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I didn’t see anything on the advertising boards in the 26th minute that the commentary team were on about at kick off.
I saw the One More Year thing on the 20th minute.
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This is the best we have played for a few weeks now, a goal would do them the world of good.
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Great ball by Copps to Smith in the box.
What didn’t Smith hit that first time?
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I didn’t see anything on the advertising boards in the 26th minute that the commentary team were on about at kick off.
I saw the One More Year thing on the 20th minute.
Didn’t see it myself but the commentator said it was to be 26th min.
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This is garbage again , copps on right wing at 40 really ? He needs to be central to dictate play
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I have to remind myself ........ we are a third tier team, we are a third tier team, we are a third tier team.........and no matter how well we look at times, and no matter how the fans get absolutely carried away......we are still a third tier team....
and it’s Easter weekend , and that means CHOCOLATE,
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Shots at least this week, but none that have tested a keeper.
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Think Butler’s spent the week picking out a smart outfit so he can look nice on Sky rather than actually preparing us to win a football match.
That said, we do look a bit brighter than recently although still completely bereft of any ideas in the final third.
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Shots at least this week, but none that have tested a keeper.
Apart from the one he saved from Bogle.
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We haven’t got a clue, no purpose, to slow and predictable shite!
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Bostock is total class, if only the headless chicken Robertson could have the same composure
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We’re playing well, we will get something from this game.
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I didn’t see anything on the advertising boards in the 26th minute that the commentary team were on about at kick off.
I saw the One More Year thing on the 20th minute.
Didn’t see it myself but the commentator said it was to be 26th min.
(https://i.imgur.com/uUH771S.png)
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I think it's obvious to everyone why we are struggling. Up front we are hopeless. We haven't a clue when we get to the opposition's area.
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Can’t believe ppl putting any sort of blame on jones for the goal. James was the wrong side of the man and got outmuscled jones can’t do anything about that.
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We’re playing well, we will get something from this game.
We don’t look like scoring, it’s shite, and it can’t be just me thats getting pissed off with it, Butler sais in the week we were raring to go, it looks like we’ve gone!
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We haven’t got a clue, no purpose, to slow and predictable shite!
Come on Filo, stop sitting on the fence! :lol:
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I didn’t see anything on the advertising boards in the 26th minute that the commentary team were on about at kick off.
I saw the One More Year thing on the 20th minute.
Didn’t see it myself but the commentator said it was to be 26th min.
(https://i.imgur.com/uUH771S.png)
Cheers for that. I wonder why they chose the 20th minute.
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I think we miss an Alfie May type figure - one that hustles the defenders and unsettles them - at the moment a bit too easy to defend against...
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Agree with Matt Mills. It's men against boys. You can see which team is experienced and has an experienced man at the helm
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Ludicrous decision. Team in the play offs lose their manager and appoint a part time women’s coach.
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Can’t believe ppl putting any sort of blame on jones for the goal. James was the wrong side of the man and got outmuscled jones can’t do anything about that.
Wrong place ...wrong time! .......lol
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Need Richards on at least someone who will show some intent to attack there goal
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The football is just so slow, in this formation you need pace out wide and making them runs in behind we haven't got anyone offering them. James is the one trying to make the runs in behind from left back but Copps and Feji need to be offering more.
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Can’t believe ppl putting any sort of blame on jones for the goal. James was the wrong side of the man and got outmuscled jones can’t do anything about that.
Definitely the defence at fault first and foremost. Anderson was passive, Wright could have come for the second ball but just stayed in no-mans land and then James was far too soft. Jones maybe could have done better but should never have got to that stage.
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Their goal was horrendous defending
Anderson, James and Wright all to blame.
Smith not had a kick,
We need someone to run at them and show I’d be bringing lokilo and Richards on for okenabirhie and smith
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Maybe throw Richards on and see if he is in the mood today...?
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3-5-2 we are crying out for it with the players we have , copps and fej on the in is pointless that’s two players down get two up top and copps in the hole making things happen , come on butts sort this shit out
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Ludicrous decision. Team in the play offs lose their manager and appoint a part time women’s coach.
This, in spades! That decision has ruined our season, it’s not over yet, but will soon be if we carry on with AB
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We are shaky at best at the back and offer very little upfront. It’s easy to defend against us as we do the same things time after time.
It’s a good job we’ve got points on the board and we are safe. I’ve watched us twice in 6 days now and this side has some talented individuals, but for the reasons I’ve outlined we will be nowhere near the playoffs.
Not the end of the world given the state of things but a big rethink is needed in the summer if we have aspirations of ever getting out of this league again
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Agree with Matt Mills. It's men against boys. You can see which team is experienced and has an experienced man at the helm
spot on it’s been the same for some time now. They are controlling the game.we have a lot of possession but no end product.hope we get something out of the game.
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I think it's obvious to everyone why we are struggling. Up front we are hopeless. We haven't a clue when we get to the opposition's area.
What about the defence? Anderson jumps flat footed, Wright cant make his mind up, the forward runs off James and its in our net. This is every week now.
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Can’t believe ppl putting any sort of blame on jones for the goal. James was the wrong side of the man and got outmuscled jones can’t do anything about that.
Definitely the defence at fault first and foremost. Anderson was passive, Wright could have come for the second ball but just stayed in no-mans land and then James was far too soft. Jones maybe could have done better but should never have got to that stage.
Watched it again and while the defenders all made a hash of it Jones needed to be braver and smother the shot at his feet.
Sorry I was a keeper and would have put my body on the line to stop the shot.
Yes it’s easy sat on my sofa I know.
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Ludicrous decision. Team in the play offs lose their manager and appoint a part time women’s coach.
This, in spades! That decision has ruined our season, it’s not over yet, but will soon be if we carry on with AB
Cheap option though.
Why didn't we go after someone like Adkins?
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We are shaky at best at the back and offer very little upfront. It’s easy to defend against us as we do the same things time after time.
It’s a good job we’ve got points on the board and we are safe. I’ve watched us twice in 6 days now and this side has some talented individuals, but for the reasons I’ve outlined we will be nowhere near the playoffs.
Not the end of the world given the state of things but a big rethink is needed in the summer if we have aspirations of ever getting out of this league again
A rethink would mean a change if direction by the club which won't ever happen.
We aren't ever getting out of this league with short term contracts and loan signings and having to rebuild every single year.
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I never realised how handsome Tom Anderson was close up.... :whistle:
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Ludicrous decision. Team in the play offs lose their manager and appoints a part time women’s coach.
This, in spades! That decision has ruined our season, it’s not over yet, but will soon be if we carry on with AB
Cheap option though.
Why didn't we go after someone like Adkins?
Plenty on here disagreed with that.
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Unusually, two good offside calls, one at each end.
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We are shaky at best at the back and offer very little upfront. It’s easy to defend against us as we do the same things time after time.
It’s a good job we’ve got points on the board and we are safe. I’ve watched us twice in 6 days now and this side has some talented individuals, but for the reasons I’ve outlined we will be nowhere near the playoffs.
Not the end of the world given the state of things but a big rethink is needed in the summer if we have aspirations of ever getting out of this league again
A rethink would mean a change if direction by the club which won't ever happen.
We aren't ever getting out of this league with short term contracts and loan signings and having to rebuild every single year.
It doesn't work, it's so clear.
Charlton have a settled side with experienced pros.
They went and got an experienced manager to replace bowyer.
They literally have the opposite approach to Rovers, and it shows.
It's clear for all to see which is the most ambitious and forward thinking club.
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Ludicrous decision. Team in the play offs lose their manager and appoint a part time women’s coach.
This, in spades! That decision has ruined our season, it’s not over yet, but will soon be if we carry on with AB
Cheap option though.
Why didn't we go after someone like Adkins?
It worked previously when Saunders ditched us but it certainly hasn't worked this time!
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Ludicrous decision. Team in the play offs lose their manager and appoint a part time women’s coach.
This, in spades! That decision has ruined our season, it’s not over yet, but will soon be if we carry on with AB
Cheap option though.
Why didn't we go after someone like Adkins?
It worked previously when Saunders ditched us but it certainly hasn't worked this time!
We were in good form when that happened though?
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Ludicrous decision. Team in the play offs lose their manager and appoint a part time women’s coach.
This, in spades! That decision has ruined our season, it’s not over yet, but will soon be if we carry on with AB
Sheer insanity wasn't it.
Charlton showed how it should have been handled.
Butler WAS the easy and cheap option.
That and the ridiculous loan (experiment mk2) policy has now been proved to be a very very naive and inexperienced way to run a club.
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Has their keeper got his knees dirty yet.
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Ludicrous decision. Team in the play offs lose their manager and appoint a part time women’s coach.
This, in spades! That decision has ruined our season, it’s not over yet, but will soon be if we carry on with AB
Cheap option though.
Why didn't we go after someone like Adkins?
It worked previously when Saunders ditched us but it certainly hasn't worked this time!
Flynn was vastly experienced.
Butler the opposite
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It certainly worked with Dave Penney.
Everyone has to given a break to start somewhere. It looks like it isn't going to work out this time but I don't think, given the situation the club was in, it was wrong to take the risk and give AB a shot at it.
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Ludicrous decision. Team in the play offs lose their manager and appoint a part time women’s coach.
This, in spades! That decision has ruined our season, it’s not over yet, but will soon be if we carry on with AB
Cheap option though.
Why didn't we go after someone like Adkins?
It worked previously when Saunders ditched us but it certainly hasn't worked this time!
Brian Flynn was not an inexperienced manager. It was the perfect combination of experience alongside continuity with Rob Jones. This is a completely different situation.
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So easy to be critical of AB’s appointment though isn’t it when results are not positive.
Don’t remember too many disagreeing with the appointment when it happened.
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Ludicrous decision. Team in the play offs lose their manager and appoint a part time women’s coach.
This, in spades! That decision has ruined our season, it’s not over yet, but will soon be if we carry on with AB
Cheap option though.
Why didn't we go after someone like Adkins?
It worked previously when Saunders ditched us but it certainly hasn't worked this time!
You mean when the experienced Brian Flyn came in?
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I think there were plenty at the time saying it was naive to announce him until the end of season
We should’ve announced him while we were looking for the manager
And we should’ve appointed Adkins or the cowleys
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They’ve got 7-8 in and around our box......tell em to bugger-off cos it’s not fare.....
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So easy to be critical of AB’s appointment though isn’t it when results are not positive.
Don’t remember too many disagreeing with the appointment when it happened.
There were plenty lamenting the appointment of how naive it was
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Looks like the 1st attempt at goal is going to prove to be the winner .
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Joe Wright off now with concussion.
Nothing going for us at all
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I think there were plenty at the time saying it was naive to announce him until the end of season
We should’ve announced him while we were looking for the manager
And we should’ve appointed Adkins or the cowleys
There were plenty of posters saying we didn’t want Adkins.
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This is f**king crap.
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Exactly this, you have to feel for Andy, he had to have a go at taking it on, but this is not his fault - the team were faltering well before his reign.
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He picks the team, just taken off our top scorer when we’re one down
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Looks like we've forgot where their penalty box is.
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Halliday is shocking against right footed left wingers. He doesn't know how to deal with someone cutting it. He's fine when they're left footed though.
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So here's the game plan (for any opposition manager) , "Go hell for leather at them in the first half, get a goal and you can manage the rest of the game. They will not be any threat. "
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He picks the team, just taken off our top scorer when we’re one down
Rightly so
He’s been terrible
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He picks the team, just taken off our top scorer when we’re one down
Sorry this not hindsight he is was out of his depth Okenabirhie leading goal scorer off and Lokilo on how may as he scored or created.
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THIS IS f**kING PATHETIC.
Sorry for the capitals guys, but its beyond the joke.
The 1997/98 team had more desire.
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Can’t believe ppl putting any sort of blame on jones for the goal. James was the wrong side of the man and got outmuscled jones can’t do anything about that.
Definitely the defence at fault first and foremost. Anderson was passive, Wright could have come for the second ball but just stayed in no-mans land and then James was far too soft. Jones maybe could have done better but should never have got to that stage.
Watched it again and while the defenders all made a hash of it Jones needed to be braver and smother the shot at his feet.
Sorry I was a keeper and would have put my body on the line to stop the shot.
Yes it’s easy sat on my sofa I know.
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You obviously don't like Jones.
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What we need is players that at least look like there interested
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Smith is a shadow of the player he was when he was playing alongside Whiteman. Bostock looks neat and tidy but I don’t really see what he offers other than short or sideways passes, he’s not in Whiteman’s league. Forget the injuries, managerial change etc, the biggest factor in our slide is selling our best player, the player who made us tick, in January.
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He was more of a threat than Coppinger and Bostock
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I wonder if anything was said at HT, or did they all just sit there having a cup of tea and a general chit chat because this is f**king abysmall!
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I’m not sure what AB could have done differently to any other manager ....the team is still the same, the defence is still dodgy at best.....how would a new Manager manage to manage this lot?
You can only work with what you have at the end of the day....
I am not sure that Butler could do any more than he’s currently doing....we are a poor team that had a few good results, a few very lucky wins, and some well justified defeats......
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The players have no faith in Butler according to SM they were all on a Bonus to get to playoffs. Board now they don’t have to pay that by appointing AB. Talk about playoffs but really it’s all talk.
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He was more of a threat than Coppinger and Bostock
Coppinger and bostock aren’t in the side to score our goals
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What have they done
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Darren Moore will be absent from the dugout this afternoon having returned a positive COVID-19 test result.
Assistant manager Jamie Smith will lead the Owls at Vicarage Road.
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At least the ref has had a good game so far
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The players have no faith in Butler according to SM they were all on a Bonus to get to playoffs. Board now they don’t have to pay that by appointing AB. Talk about playoffs but really it’s all talk.
What a load of nonsense that is
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We need a proper manager in and desperately we are clueless with no direction under Butler.
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Wonder how our some people on here would be if an experienced manager had come and we'd had the exact same results.
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I've not watched a game this year - but whoever said that Bogle was a good player needs to go to Spec Savers.
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It will paper over so many cracks if we get something from this
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There seems to be a complete lack of belief. I don’t think the defence believe they can stop goals going in, the strikers have no belief that they can beat defenders and score. I’ve just watched Halliday run towards the box with no belief that he will do something with the ball. I don’t think Butler believes he can out wit the opposition or instil any belief in the players.
It’s very worrying because the longer this goes on, the harder it will be, and the longer it will take to put right.
And I don’t mean this season - this season is over.
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We really are poor. We haven’t created even 1 clear cut chance at home or away in the last 2 games. Unless we score from range we really don’t look like we know how to score a goal
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Would love to see Bogle and Okenabirhie in the Championship, i bet the opposition would Sh#t them selves.
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I've not watched a game this year - but whoever said that Bogle was a good player needs to go to Spec Savers.
So you’re judging him on 80 mins
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We need to either sack butler now or give him a year deal so the new manager can come in and build for next season or butts and the players know what’s happening as it seems like the club as a whole from top to bottom does not have a clue what’s going on
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I’m not sure what AB could have done differently to any other manager ....the team is still the same, the defence is still dodgy at best.....how would a new Manager manage to manage this lot?
You can only work with what you have at the end of the day....
I am not sure that Butler could do any more than he’s currently doing....we are a poor team that had a few good results, a few very lucky wins, and some well justified defeats......
The players have got an easy ride with butler.
The more I think about it, the more stupid his appointment seems
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I’m not sure what AB could have done differently to any other manager ....the team is still the same, the defence is still dodgy at best.....how would a new Manager manage to manage this lot?
You can only work with what you have at the end of the day....
I am not sure that Butler could do any more than he’s currently doing....we are a poor team that had a few good results, a few very lucky wins, and some well justified defeats......
A new manager would have given them a good shake up.
Ive said it before, Butler is one of the lads. He should not have been appointed and even more so without an experienced assistant with him. This is total b*llocks and we are a laughing stock. Ipswich, Pompy and Charlton all battling or promotion and appoint experienced managers. We appoint our Women's coach.
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At least the ref has had a good game so far
Until now.
Red for last man with cynical foul on Bogle - not even given as foul
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Would love to see Bogle and Okenabirhie in the Championship, i bet the opposition would Sh#t them selves.
Thing is though, out of our entire squad of what we own how many of them would cope in the Championship?
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I really want Butler to succeed. But this team need a confidence lift and some shooting practice. I haven’t counted one decent shot in this game
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I've not watched a game this year - but whoever said that Bogle was a good player needs to go to Spec Savers.
So you’re judging him on 80 mins
I guess so..... seems like he's lost TBH..
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The decision not to appoint an assistant is a joke and I really don’t understand what went wrong there given we were talking to people and supposedly close to appointing one. Naive at best, incompetent at worst.
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He’s had a poor game today,
Still think he gives us much more than okenabirhie
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The players have no faith in Butler according to SM they were all on a Bonus to get to playoffs. Board now they don’t have to pay that by appointing AB. Talk about playoffs but really it’s all talk.
Absolute rubbish.
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The decision not to appoint an assistant is a joke and I really don’t understand what went wrong there given we were talking to people and supposedly close to appointing one. Naive at best, incompetent at worst.
Says who...?
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I think I would say to Butler, sorry its not working, we're going to start looking for someone else.
Then I would ask Copps if he'd take it on until someone else comes in. I know it's not something he has shown much inclination towards but he has worked under a wide array of managers and SOD was particularly influential to him.
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I’m not sure what AB could have done differently to any other manager ....the team is still the same, the defence is still dodgy at best.....how would a new Manager manage to manage this lot?
You can only work with what you have at the end of the day....
I am not sure that Butler could do any more than he’s currently doing....we are a poor team that had a few good results, a few very lucky wins, and some well justified defeats......
A new manager would have given them a good shake up.
Ive said it before, Butler is one of the lads. He should not have been appointed and even more so without an experienced assistant with him. This is total b*llocks and we are a laughing stock. Ipswich, Pompy and Charlton all battling or promotion and appoint experienced managers. We appoint our Women's coach.
A good shake up?
These are professional footballers forchristsake, they should not need any shaking up at all....
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He’s had a poor game today,
Still think he gives us much more than okenabirhie
Wouldn't disagree on today's performance.... both really average IMO.
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I think I would say to Butler, sorry its not working, we're going to start looking for someone else.
Then I would ask Copps if he'd take it on until someone else comes in. I know it's not something he has shown much inclination towards but he has worked under a wide array of managers and SOD was particularly influential to him.
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The players have no faith in Butler according to SM they were all on a Bonus to get to playoffs. Board now they don’t have to pay that by appointing AB. Talk about playoffs but really it’s all talk.
Ahh this seems like an excellent and interesting theory. The board clearly weighed up the extra money they'd receive from being in the Championship and the smaller fee of a promotion bonus and went lol let's keep paying £2m a year.
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I think I would say to Butler, sorry its not working, we're going to start looking for someone else.
Then I would ask Copps if he'd take it on until someone else comes in. I know it's not something he has shown much inclination towards but he has worked under a wide array of managers and SOD was particularly influential to him.
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Why so funny? It would probably only be for a couple of games.
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It wouldn’t be so bad if we were entertained and lost, since Christmas we have been nothing short of shit
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I’m not sure what AB could have done differently to any other manager ....the team is still the same, the defence is still dodgy at best.....how would a new Manager manage to manage this lot?
You can only work with what you have at the end of the day....
I am not sure that Butler could do any more than he’s currently doing....we are a poor team that had a few good results, a few very lucky wins, and some well justified defeats......
A new manager would have given them a good shake up.
Ive said it before, Butler is one of the lads. He should not have been appointed and even more so without an experienced assistant with him. This is total b*llocks and we are a laughing stock. Ipswich, Pompy and Charlton all battling or promotion and appoint experienced managers. We appoint our Women's coach.
A good shake up?
These are professional footballers forchristsake, they should not need any shaking up at all....
When you have as many young loan players as we do then an experienced manager is needed.
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How can a professional keeper at this level kick the ball straight off the pitch so many times? Surely this needs to be addressed!
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Until Lokilo came on we didnt really stick a cross in the box, what do you want our forwards to do? We create naff all for them, I've said it before, as a forward player you would be so frustrated to play for us.
Its nice to see CJ at his prefered position, and he's snuffed out any chance they have had since coming on. Time for a sustained time in the team at that position.
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The decision not to appoint an assistant is a joke and I really don’t understand what went wrong there given we were talking to people and supposedly close to appointing one. Naive at best, incompetent at worst.
Says who...?
SM said he was talking to people with a view to appointing an assistant.
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The players have no faith in Butler according to SM they were all on a Bonus to get to playoffs. Board now they don’t have to pay that by appointing AB. Talk about playoffs but really it’s all talk.
Ahh this seems like an excellent and interesting theory. The board clearly weighed up the extra money they'd receive from being in the Championship and the smaller fee of a promotion bonus and went lol let's keep paying £2m a year.
Think you are forgetting about the amount the board would need to pay in higher wages in the championship
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I think I would say to Butler, sorry its not working, we're going to start looking for someone else.
Then I would ask Copps if he'd take it on until someone else comes in. I know it's not something he has shown much inclination towards but he has worked under a wide array of managers and SOD was particularly influential to him.
So you would. appoint someone with even less experience?
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Anddddddddddd cut!
Ok....thats a wrap
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The decision not to appoint an assistant is a joke and I really don’t understand what went wrong there given we were talking to people and supposedly close to appointing one. Naive at best, incompetent at worst.
Says who...?
https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=280279.msg1034029#msg1034029
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I think I would say to Butler, sorry its not working, we're going to start looking for someone else.
Then I would ask Copps if he'd take it on until someone else comes in. I know it's not something he has shown much inclination towards but he has worked under a wide array of managers and SOD was particularly influential to him.
So you would. appoint someone with even less experience?
Short term, why not?
There aren't many with more playing experience.
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Well, having watched the game again. This is shite.
Complete lack of ideas going forward, to the point it’s verging on “hit and hope”.
It’s dull, it’s boring, it’s crap.
I’ve now accepted that the play offs won’t be happening.
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Ludicrous decision. Team in the play offs lose their manager and appoint a part time women’s coach.
This, in spades! That decision has ruined our season, it’s not over yet, but will soon be if we carry on with AB
Cheap option though.
Why didn't we go after someone like Adkins?
It had nothing to do with money.
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Look on the bright side. We "only" need 9 more points to be safe from relegation.
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Terribly dull, uninspired and done again by a long-ball team who weren't afraid to be cynical when it was required. Really do not know where we go from here.
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Ludicrous decision. Team in the play offs lose their manager and appoint a part time women’s coach.
This, in spades! That decision has ruined our season, it’s not over yet, but will soon be if we carry on with AB
Cheap option though.
Why didn't we go after someone like Adkins?
It had nothing to do with money.
Absolutely agree, but how long do you persevere before accepting it hasn't worked. 2 points from 6 is very poor no matter the situation. It's going backwards weekly for me.
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Another performance that lacked any quality in the final third today. something has to change and rapidly if we are going to have any chance of making the playoffs. Hopefully we can see an improvement in the side on Monday
Onwards and upwards
COYR
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Look on the bright side. We "only" need 9 more points to be safe from relegation.
Where we gunna get them from then.
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The players have no faith in Butler according to SM they were all on a Bonus to get to playoffs. Board now they don’t have to pay that by appointing AB. Talk about playoffs but really it’s all talk.
Ahh this seems like an excellent and interesting theory. The board clearly weighed up the extra money they'd receive from being in the Championship and the smaller fee of a promotion bonus and went lol let's keep paying £2m a year.
Think you are forgetting about the amount the board would need to pay in higher wages in the championship
Then why the f*ck are they putting in £2m extra a year if they only care about the cheap option? Why not save that money for themselves?
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Ludicrous decision. Team in the play offs lose their manager and appoint a part time women’s coach.
This, in spades! That decision has ruined our season, it’s not over yet, but will soon be if we carry on with AB
Cheap option though.
Why didn't we go after someone like Adkins?
It had nothing to do with money.
Let’s not forget this team was on a losing streak when DM left. Apart from the first 2 games under AB nothing has changed
COYR
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I’m fuming at that performance, never even changed tactics to try things, if money wasn’t the problem at his appointment, pay him off and get someone in that knows what he’s doing, no good waiting to the end of the season to get rid and then have a long drawn out process for a replacement
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I can see why they appointed butler, but they must look at not just the results but the performances, get a new manager in now let him sort contracts out and see who deserves to stay and go from there, it’s easy to say as it’s not my money but we need scrap the way we use so many loans as half of them don’t even look like they want to be there
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Look on the bright side. We "only" need 9 more points to be safe from relegation.
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Look on the bright side. We "only" need 9 more points to be safe from relegation.
Where we gunna get them from then.
Don't think we will :( but hopefully the teams below will drop enough points :)
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Look on the bright side. We "only" need 9 more points to be safe from relegation.
Where we gunna get them from then.
Don't think we will :( but hopefully the teams below will drop enough points :)
So you think we need 66 points to stay up.
I can’t recall anyone with 65 points getting relegated.
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The players have no faith in Butler according to SM they were all on a Bonus to get to playoffs. Board now they don’t have to pay that by appointing AB. Talk about playoffs but really it’s all talk.
What a pathetic post. Are you seriously suggesting that the board appointed AB so they would slip down the table and they would save on paying bonuses? Really?
Surely if the board didn’t want to pay bonus’s it would have been easier to have not supported the manager in the January transfer window. Surely that’s the easier option. I mean how did they know that AB wouldn’t keep the good form going and end up in the playoffs?
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Look on the bright side. We "only" need 9 more points to be safe from relegation.
Where we gunna get them from then.
Don't think we will :( but hopefully the teams below will drop enough points :)
So you think we need 66 points to stay up.
I can’t recall anyone with 65 points getting relegated.
Just a bit of gallows humour. 66 is the current number as things stand I don't really think even we could get relegated.
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Look on the bright side. We "only" need 9 more points to be safe from relegation.
Where we gunna get them from then.
Don't think we will :( but hopefully the teams below will drop enough points :)
So you think we need 66 points to stay up.
I can’t recall anyone with 65 points getting relegated.
Possibly means officially. Although, I just quickly checked and I got 62 being the max anyone in the bottom 5 can get, so that'd be 6 points. I may be wrong however.
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I think I would say to Butler, sorry its not working, we're going to start looking for someone else.
Then I would ask Copps if he'd take it on until someone else comes in. I know it's not something he has shown much inclination towards but he has worked under a wide array of managers and SOD was particularly influential to him.
So you would. appoint someone with even less experience?
Short term, why not?
There aren't many with more playing experience.
Actually the more I think of it, the more I think it would be a sensible gamble.
Realistically nothing is expected of the team at the moment, if the poor form continues, we'll then its not Copps fault. It's just a difficult job, someone is coming in.
But if he pulls off a couple of wins, then playoffs aren't out of sight. It would buff up his crown nicely.
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Look on the bright side. We "only" need 9 more points to be safe from relegation.
Where we gunna get them from then.
Don't think we will :( but hopefully the teams below will drop enough points :)
So you think we need 66 points to stay up.
I can’t recall anyone with 65 points getting relegated.
Possibly means officially. Although, I just quickly checked and I got 62 being the max anyone in the bottom 5 can get, so that'd be 6 points. I may be wrong however.
Wimbledon 36 points & 10 games to play =66
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Look on the bright side. We "only" need 9 more points to be safe from relegation.
Where we gunna get them from then.
Don't think we will :( but hopefully the teams below will drop enough points :)
So you think we need 66 points to stay up.
I can’t recall anyone with 65 points getting relegated.
Possibly means officially. Although, I just quickly checked and I got 62 being the max anyone in the bottom 5 can get, so that'd be 6 points. I may be wrong however.
Wimbledon 36 points & 10 games to play =66
Northampton are on the same points having played two more.
Wimbledon - 66
Rochdale - 62
Northampton - 60
Wigan - 59
Bristol R - 58
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55 is the most ever I think.
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I think I would say to Butler, sorry its not working, we're going to start looking for someone else.
Then I would ask Copps if he'd take it on until someone else comes in. I know it's not something he has shown much inclination towards but he has worked under a wide array of managers and SOD was particularly influential to him.
So you would. appoint someone with even less experience?
Short term, why not?
There aren't many with more playing experience.
Actually the more I think of it, the more I think it would be a sensible gamble.
Realistically nothing is expected of the team at the moment, if the poor form continues, we'll then its not Copps fault. It's just a difficult job, someone is coming in.
But if he pulls off a couple of wins, then playoffs aren't out of sight. It would buff up his crown nicely.
Or we leave it to Butts and if it doesn't go so well then someone is coming in. If he pulls of a couple wins then playoffs aren't out of sight.
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But if it’s the case of not gone well when butts as already signed the players he wants on new contracts for say 2 or 3 years then the budget is gone for the new man , we either sack butts now or say he is are man and offer him another year as at the min no1 knows what’s happening and it’s showing
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At the top of the table, Hull and Peterbro score late winners, both goals by ex Rovers strikers, and Sunderland get a late goal to secure their three points.
The top three are looking well clear of the rest now.
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Load of shite today rovers, show some interest, get stuck in and start playing like a fcking team for a change before fans start to lose interest.