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Title: Please go Butler
Post by: Filo on April 10, 2021, 05:07:07 pm
If you really care about Doncaster Rovers, walk now you are well out of your depth!
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: since-1969 on April 10, 2021, 05:08:00 pm
Time for a vote !
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Post by: normal rules on April 10, 2021, 05:08:35 pm
Won’t happen.
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Post by: LincolnDonny on April 10, 2021, 05:09:12 pm
Well that match was bloody embarrassing
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: Chris Black come back on April 10, 2021, 05:09:33 pm
I don't think we can lay this fully at his door really. We are neither going up or going down this season. Let's just take this opportunity to start getting a manager lined up so they are in place for when the season ends. We've in some respects got one over on many other sides as we have nothing to play for. Let's be smart and use this time to get a manager sorted.
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: southwestexile on April 10, 2021, 05:10:33 pm
He needs to go for the sake of the club and his cv
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: Filo on April 10, 2021, 05:12:23 pm
I don't think we can lay this fully at his door really. We are neither going up or going down this season. Let's just take this opportunity to start getting a manager lined up so they are in place for when the season ends. We've in some respects got one over on many other sides as we have nothing to play for. Let's be smart and use this time to get a manager sorted.

He said he had one to ones with all the players and was confident they would improve, If anything they have got worse!
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: normal rules on April 10, 2021, 05:13:16 pm
How much blame should be laid at Moore’s door. . ? It now seems clear there were/are players who did not expect him to leave the club anytime soon.
I know that does not excuse poor performances, but it’s clearly had an affect, if the rumours are right about a split dressing room.
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: normal rules on April 10, 2021, 05:14:00 pm
I don't think we can lay this fully at his door really. We are neither going up or going down this season. Let's just take this opportunity to start getting a manager lined up so they are in place for when the season ends. We've in some respects got one over on many other sides as we have nothing to play for. Let's be smart and use this time to get a manager sorted.

He said he had one to ones with all the players and was confident they would improve, If anything they have got worse!

Some youngsters these days don’t react well to straight talking. It could have had the opposite affect.
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: mjg on April 10, 2021, 05:15:32 pm
And take most of the bloody players with you
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: Filo on April 10, 2021, 05:16:29 pm
I don't think we can lay this fully at his door really. We are neither going up or going down this season. Let's just take this opportunity to start getting a manager lined up so they are in place for when the season ends. We've in some respects got one over on many other sides as we have nothing to play for. Let's be smart and use this time to get a manager sorted.

He said he had one to ones with all the players and was confident they would improve, If anything they have got worse!

Some youngsters these days don’t react well to straight talking. It could have had the opposite affect.

In that case Professional Football is not for them
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: anton123 on April 10, 2021, 05:16:47 pm
He said the penny had finally dropped ?
Well hope it has for him now as he does the honerable thing and walk
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: mjg on April 10, 2021, 05:18:21 pm
I saw a lot of players switching off today , not picking up the runners from midfield, and Bogle why have we ended up with him , he wouldn’t get in Sheffield Wednesday’s team
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: Wild Rover on April 10, 2021, 05:20:57 pm
I can see no justification in AB remaining as manager. Either he is honourable and admits defeat in his endeavours or the Board / owners put him out of his misery. Shame really, but that's life as a manager.
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: mjg on April 10, 2021, 05:21:36 pm
Butler walks and then what , the season is over anyway , may as well wait until the end of the season and start afresh with a new manager and new players
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: mjg on April 10, 2021, 05:22:25 pm
He should get his boots on
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Post by: River Don on April 10, 2021, 05:23:17 pm
I can see no justification in AB remaining as manager. Either he is honourable and admits defeat in his endeavours or the Board / owners put him out of his misery. Shame really, but that's life as a manager.

Except in the Lucky Pint SM hinted that no matter how bad things get there won't be any change this season.
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: Filo on April 10, 2021, 05:23:32 pm
Butler walks and then what , the season is over anyway , may as well wait until the end of the season and start afresh with a new manager and new players

We need to get the ball rolling on a new man now, wait till the end of the season and our long process takes us to nearly July, I already fear for next season if we take the path you are suggesting
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: since-1969 on April 10, 2021, 05:24:30 pm
I don't think we can lay this fully at his door really. We are neither going up or going down this season. Let's just take this opportunity to start getting a manager lined up so they are in place for when the season ends. We've in some respects got one over on many other sides as we have nothing to play for. Let's be smart and use this time to get a manager sorted.

He said he had one to ones with all the players and was confident they would improve, If anything they have got worse!
What is a one to one . Seems like he can’t take them all on when it comes to dishing out the home truths . Coward !!
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: DonnyOsmond on April 10, 2021, 05:26:23 pm
Butler doesn't need to go yet but the recruitment process needs to be under way immediately and someone in post before the end of the month. A manager can judge people and gain more information from seeing them in the training pitch, in the changing room and on the pitch. If we're hiring someone the week after the season and they're just watching videos of games they'll only have half the info. They shouldn't be going on someone elses word either.
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: mjg on April 10, 2021, 05:29:28 pm
I’d have a tenner on relegation next season but I’d only get a quid back
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: since-1969 on April 10, 2021, 05:29:49 pm
Butler doesn't need to go yet but the recruitment process needs to be under way immediately and someone in post before the end of the month. A manager can judge people and gain more information from seeing them in the training pitch, in the changing room and on the pitch. If we're hiring someone the week after the season and they're just watching videos of games they'll only have half the info. They shouldn't be going on someone elses word either.
Maybe Gavin Baldwin should step up and show us what he can do , after all he knows a manager when he sees one!!
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: northern soul on April 10, 2021, 05:30:10 pm
We'll  have a new manager in place by the time this season finishes, so I doubt that AB will be walking away from this despite it being as poor as it gets.

Does this mean we've started the process?
AB is stuck between a rock and a hard place at the minute. If he packs it in, he knows we're up poo creek, if he stays then he knows that some of the players don't want to play for us.

AB to the end of the season seems reasonable idea. We're not going out of the division, however frustrating that may seem at the minute.
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: mjg on April 10, 2021, 05:31:27 pm
The recruitment will not start until we have a manager next season , he will want his own players
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: mjg on April 10, 2021, 05:32:36 pm
It’s like some of the players are already on their holidays
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: mjg on April 10, 2021, 05:33:58 pm
Moore brought this lot in . He new what he was doing when he buggered off
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: DonnyNoel on April 10, 2021, 05:36:59 pm
It's all down to the players or something more sinister if you read what Nick Buxton says on twitter. Can understand him backing his mate but not a hugely professional post....

https://twitter.com/NickBucco1/status/1380914535280828421 (https://twitter.com/NickBucco1/status/1380914535280828421)
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: Cramby10 on April 10, 2021, 05:41:08 pm
It’s really sticking in my throat that poor old Butty is getting the most of the flack!! Sure he’s inexperienced and it clearly has not worked out.
But a lot of these bloody players are taking the piss out of the club and us fans. They don’t give a s**t. You can tell that by the way they perform on the pitch. And some are just not good enough. I for one hope I don’t have to witness many of these players for our team next season.
All barring Anderson, James and Copps can shut the door on their way out!!
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on April 10, 2021, 05:45:29 pm
Players are letting everyone down though, the lack of urgency is crazy in some of them. Too soft.

It hasn't worked for butler and I'm gutted for him, but it's not all his fault.

Also on the change. Season ends 4 weeks today it's pointless changing it.
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: RedRover on April 10, 2021, 09:34:17 pm
Season ends 4 weeks today it's pointless changing it.

Absolute b*ll*ocks! The way we finish the season could well define how next season goes or at least how it starts. When Leicester City won the Premier League they began that season how they finished the last. Full of belief and winning.
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: roversdude on April 11, 2021, 04:12:37 am
It's all down to the players or something more sinister if you read what Nick Buxton says on twitter. Can understand him backing his mate but not a hugely professional post....

https://twitter.com/NickBucco1/status/1380914535280828421 (https://twitter.com/NickBucco1/status/1380914535280828421)

Can’t really argue with the tweet - the players have switched off/given up and should take a long hard look at themselves
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on April 11, 2021, 07:26:25 am
Season ends 4 weeks today it's pointless changing it.

Absolute b*ll*ocks! The way we finish the season could well define how next season goes or at least how it starts. When Leicester City won the Premier League they began that season how they finished the last. Full of belief and winning.

You really think someone could change much in 4 weeks in about 10 training sessions. By the time they have started they'd be gone again given it's likely they wouldn't get the full time person in until the end of season anyway.
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: keith79 on April 11, 2021, 07:35:10 am
If butts thinks certain players are letting him down why does he still pick them?
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: Barmby Rover on April 11, 2021, 07:41:35 am
It's all down to the players or something more sinister if you read what Nick Buxton says on twitter. Can understand him backing his mate but not a hugely professional post....

https://twitter.com/NickBucco1/status/1380914535280828421 (https://twitter.com/NickBucco1/status/1380914535280828421)

A bad workman....... these are the same "tools" that have had two opportunities to become the leaders in this division. Players don't generally lose all their ability overnight, but they can become fractured as a team and disheartened by leadership.

Can’t really argue with the tweet - the players have switched off/given up and should take a long hard look at themselves
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: Filo on April 11, 2021, 09:03:07 am
If butts thinks certain players are letting him down why does he still pick them?


In Butlers post match interview, he said only Tom Anderson and Paul Gerard said anything, he never mentioned if he himself said anything, I suspect he’s not cut out to dish bollockings out, let me in there and give them some home truths, they would know they’ve had a bollocking then, they are putting in zero effort and they know it, thats why every single one of them have gone missing on social media, happy to take the plaudits when they get a result, but hide when they don’t, just like when they are on the pitch!
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: Colin C No.3 on April 11, 2021, 03:57:27 pm
I don't think we can lay this fully at his door really. We are neither going up or going down this season. Let's just take this opportunity to start getting a manager lined up so they are in place for when the season ends. We've in some respects got one over on many other sides as we have nothing to play for. Let's be smart and use this time to get a manager sorted.

He said he had one to ones with all the players and was confident they would improve, If anything they have got worse!
What is a one to one . Seems like he can’t take them all on when it comes to dishing out the home truths . Coward !!

That is an absolute disgrace. You want kneecapping for a remark like that after all the service Butts has given this club as a player over the years.

It's not his fault he's been landed with a bunch of lightweights. He was asked by the board to step up & help the club & he did just that. He hung up his boots in an attempt to give it his best shot but his best unfortunately hasn't been able to mould this set of selfish mercenaries into a group.

I'd like to see you stand face to face with him & call him a coward.

Only one coward here spouting cheap crap from behind the safety of your keyboard.

To$$er.
Title: Re: Please go Butler
Post by: drfchound on April 11, 2021, 03:58:38 pm
It usually takes us four weeks to appoint a manager once the process has begun.
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Post by: DonnyOsmond on April 11, 2021, 05:15:59 pm
It usually takes us four weeks to appoint a manager once the process has begun.

And the season finishes four weeks yesterday. Are we going to see an advertisement tomorrow?