Don't envy them playing in this weather.....:s hopefully plenty of water breaks.....
Does anyone know what the penalty was for?
Ravenhill and Hasani now on. Doesn't say much for them if all these emergency triallists are getting a game in front of them.
All the information in the news is there to read.
This year start building with not so great budget with covid tax, player defer to pay back
Next year back to a decent budget and away we go.
Anything above mid table would be a bonus this year.
Our actual 11 pre new covid issue looks OK but only OK.
Add next year 5 or 6 quality again and we will be strong.
Fingers crossed RW has us playing some sweet football by then.
So we lost 2-0 but the trialists got a decent run out and a rule run over them….doesn’t sound promising, but it is early doors
If the budget is down by a quarter, then that is a very significant hit. We’ve also signed players like Close, Knoyle, Rowe and Williams who will be on good League One money and we’ve given a long new deal to Taylor. He has invested in a good XI. He will struggle to keep up the quality outside that XI given the reduction in his budget.
So we’ve a significant budget increase with high earners leaving yet we can’t get players in????? Yet again points to no rhyme or reason, quite clearly no increase and a desperate attempt to sell season ticketsOh no, he's escaped again
Just ignore him. Quite pathetic and is not a Real supporter of DRFC. Real supporters that have a bone to pick have something constructive to say also or some sensible suggestions. This guy has never posted anything remotely constructive. If he has I missed it.So we’ve a significant budget increase with high earners leaving yet we can’t get players in????? Yet again points to no rhyme or reason, quite clearly no increase and a desperate attempt to sell season ticketsOh no, he's escaped again
So we’ve a significant budget increase with high earners leaving yet we can’t get players in????? Yet again points to no rhyme or reason, quite clearly no increase and a desperate attempt to sell season ticketsOh no, he's escaped again
So we’ve a significant budget increase with high earners leaving yet we can’t get players in????? Yet again points to no rhyme or reason, quite clearly no increase and a desperate attempt to sell season tickets
All the information in the news is there to read.
This year start building with not so great budget with covid tax, player defer to pay back
Next year back to a decent budget and away we go.
Anything above mid table would be a bonus this year.
Our actual 11 pre new covid issue looks OK but only OK.
Add next year 5 or 6 quality again and we will be strong.
Fingers crossed RW has us playing some sweet football by then.
Makess no difference how many RW maybe going for quality more wages per player not everything is so simple.I did say loans and I’m only saying what RW as said we require. DM had a budget which was 23% less than normal last season. Yet he put together a first team squad of 14 permanent players (including Williams). He added to that 5 loans for the start of the season.
Things will change day in day out dependant on who and what is available, nowhere does it say we had 18 last year so we want 18 now, it says the budget is 25%, how the hell do you get numbers from that. Why can't we do it with loans? They cost plenty too. I really don't get your point at all. RW will decide how many and what quality. Nothing to do with what we had last year.
Ravenhill and Hasani now on. Doesn't say much for them if all these emergency triallists are getting a game in front of them.it says nothing about them at all. All it did was give RW a chance to see the trialists and what they can do, he already knows what the kids are like, so it provides nothing about them
steve the January window budget is different to now, I would have thought that we will have a budget for January separate to nowAll the information in the news is there to read.
This year start building with not so great budget with covid tax, player defer to pay back
Next year back to a decent budget and away we go.
Anything above mid table would be a bonus this year.
Our actual 11 pre new covid issue looks OK but only OK.
Add next year 5 or 6 quality again and we will be strong.
Fingers crossed RW has us playing some sweet football by then.
So what happens when other clubs come in and take all our best performers, as they do every season?
As I've said before, you cannot plan for the season after the next one. It all has to be about the season in front of you.
What do you think the attendances will be like if we're in the bottom half of the table at Christmas, and looking unable to compete successfully with those in the top half? Which then impacts on what the budget will be for the following season.
Makess no difference how many RW maybe going for quality more wages per player not everything is so simple.I did say loans and I’m only saying what RW as said we require. DM had a budget which was 23% less than normal last season. Yet he put together a first team squad of 14 permanent players (including Williams). He added to that 5 loans for the start of the season.
Things will change day in day out dependant on who and what is available, nowhere does it say we had 18 last year so we want 18 now, it says the budget is 25%, how the hell do you get numbers from that. Why can't we do it with loans? They cost plenty too. I really don't get your point at all. RW will decide how many and what quality. Nothing to do with what we had last year.
At this moment of time with a budget bigger than last season RW has 12 permanent players and 1 loan in his first team squad. 2 of those are injured at the moment but hope they’ll be ready for when season starts. As I said before he has 4 loans to add to that. So he should have room if Williams leaves to add another two permanent players which will be comparable to last season. Like last season we have younger players under them who have to prove they are better than any of the Trialist but we don’t have any attacking young players.
Note out of all the Trialists and young lads that played yesterday only one stood out and he only joined the squad on Friday. The rest failed to reach the level RW required hard on some as they weren’t with us long. But the young lads and some others have.
I make 13 from that list and that includes Smith (loanee)! Nowhere near a good enough squad depth for this league.
We have another loanee secured, who is a forward player, but with no prior league experience.
I’m finding it extremely difficult to equate the numbers we have against (what is supposed to be) a bigger budget than last season. And, we’re now having to ship players out before we can get anyone else in. Unbelievable, Jeff.
Does the budget need adjusting?
Thanks for the well wishes folks, didn't mean to derail the thread. I'll be back to full health before long I'm sure!
Back on topic, you can't discount the younger pros as first team squad members. They are being paid a first team wage, and the likes of Jones and Horton must now be classed as first teamers having played plenty last season. Even if you discount Bottomley, Blythe, Hasani and Ravenhill for having hardly played at senior level, that is still 17 players plus 4 loanees to come.
What more do people want? Some on this forum must never, ever be happy with their pastime of watching football because nothing is ever good enough.
I make 13 from that list and that includes Smith (loanee)! Nowhere near a good enough squad depth for this league.
We have another loanee secured, who is a forward player, but with no prior league experience.
I’m finding it extremely difficult to equate the numbers we have against (what is supposed to be) a bigger budget than last season. And, we’re now having to ship players out before we can get anyone else in. Unbelievable, Jeff.
Does the budget need adjusting?
So we’ve a significant budget increase with high earners leaving yet we can’t get players in????? Yet again points to no rhyme or reason, quite clearly no increase and a desperate attempt to sell season ticketsFerguson had the same dilemma when Andy Williams left had thought that freeing up his wages would increase his budget .., it didn’t and he left soon after .
First I’m not having a go at the budget .
Secondly I’ve not discounted the young players in Jones is part of the 11/13 we have now.
We had Williams and 7 others last season we have the same now so that’s a fair comparison.
I’m not asking us to spend billions as someone wants to make their point.
I did say we may have spent more on some players.
I was just doing a comparison.
Some you softbskin people thought I was having dig at the board I wasn’t
I want Richie to succeed as manage here some don’t and would be happy to see him fail.
So get off your board protecting high horses at the moment we haven’t got enough players with 3 more loans after the second one tomorrow we will be in a better position.
Also let’s hope Greaves Horton and Hasani can come good for Richie they are in their third yeat of a professional contract.
Not sure if I’ve missed something
But what’s the problem with the squad?
We’ve made some very good signings, wellens said on day one what he wanted and how many and we seem to be doing exactly what he said?
What’s the problem?
Thanks for the well wishes folks, didn't mean to derail the thread. I'll be back to full health before long I'm sure!
Back on topic, you can't discount the younger pros as first team squad members. They are being paid a first team wage, and the likes of Jones and Horton must now be classed as first teamers having played plenty last season. Even if you discount Bottomley, Blythe, Hasani and Ravenhill for having hardly played at senior level, that is still 17 players plus 4 loanees to come.
What more do people want? Some on this forum must never, ever be happy with their pastime of watching football because nothing is ever good enough.
We are an average League 1 team signing average League 1 players. No doubt we will finish in an average League 1 position. Most of my life we were in Division 4 so I'm just living the dream.
No, that’s what you have said to exaggerate your point against others common thing on this board. We didn’t have that last season so not expecting this season. Just a comparable squad which we started the season with.Not sure if I’ve missed something
But what’s the problem with the squad?
We’ve made some very good signings, wellens said on day one what he wanted and how many and we seem to be doing exactly what he said?
What’s the problem?
Some people seem to think we should have 22 players of first XI quality then Christ knows how many in reserve.
How do people know we've signed good players... Nobody's seen them play yetWellens has deliberately gone out and bought some not very good players. :facepalm:
I think the squad is better than last seasons already isn’t it?We are short of 1 GK but we get a loan keeper we are no worse off.
I think the squad is better than last seasons already isn’t it?We are short of 1 GK but we get a loan keeper we are no worse off.
The defence is close to last season maybe a utility defender. We only know when they play together.
The centre three we haven’t got a DM player we have only got three we had four last year if you count Gomes.
Front three We have 4 players now although 2 are injured it will be 5 tomorrow. Last season we started with 6 and Williams. So when we sign the three loanees we should be nearly there
I think the squad is better than last seasons already isn’t it?We are short of 1 GK but we get a loan keeper we are no worse off.
The defence is close to last season maybe a utility defender. We only know when they play together.
The centre three we haven’t got a DM player we have only got three we had four last year if you count Gomes.
Front three We have 4 players now although 2 are injured it will be 5 tomorrow. Last season we started with 6 and Williams. So when we sign the three loanees we should be nearly there
I did say before comparing when the season starts so I’m hoping we get the players before it starts. If you remember the only change to that was Tulloch got injured and we brought Sims in as a replacementI think the squad is better than last seasons already isn’t it?We are short of 1 GK but we get a loan keeper we are no worse off.
The defence is close to last season maybe a utility defender. We only know when they play together.
The centre three we haven’t got a DM player we have only got three we had four last year if you count Gomes.
Front three We have 4 players now although 2 are injured it will be 5 tomorrow. Last season we started with 6 and Williams. So when we sign the three loanees we should be nearly there
Steve, did we have all those players three weeks before the season started though?
I did say before comparing when the season starts so I’m hoping we get the players before it starts. If you remember the only change to that was Tulloch got injured and we brought Sims in as a replacementI think the squad is better than last seasons already isn’t it?We are short of 1 GK but we get a loan keeper we are no worse off.
The defence is close to last season maybe a utility defender. We only know when they play together.
The centre three we haven’t got a DM player we have only got three we had four last year if you count Gomes.
Front three We have 4 players now although 2 are injured it will be 5 tomorrow. Last season we started with 6 and Williams. So when we sign the three loanees we should be nearly there
Steve, did we have all those players three weeks before the season started though?
I did say before comparing when the season starts so I’m hoping we get the players before it starts. If you remember the only change to that was Tulloch got injured and we brought Sims in as a replacementI think the squad is better than last seasons already isn’t it?We are short of 1 GK but we get a loan keeper we are no worse off.
The defence is close to last season maybe a utility defender. We only know when they play together.
The centre three we haven’t got a DM player we have only got three we had four last year if you count Gomes.
Front three We have 4 players now although 2 are injured it will be 5 tomorrow. Last season we started with 6 and Williams. So when we sign the three loanees we should be nearly there
Steve, did we have all those players three weeks before the season started though?
We also signed Matt Smith at the end of the transfer window, well after the season started.
How do people know we've signed good players... Nobody's seen them play yet
How do people know we've signed good players... Nobody's seen them play yet
Think a break from the sun is in order for a few on here - it’s demoralising reading nothing but negativity on a daily basis.What’s different from any other pre season. Same old moaners with nothing positive to say.