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Title: The men who buy football
Post by: albie on August 11, 2021, 10:49:00 pm
Investigative documentary by Aljazeera into the football industry;
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/9/investigation-reveals-football-used-to-launder-money-men-who-sell-football

Some might be interested in the non-football reasons for people getting involved.
Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 11, 2021, 11:11:44 pm
No surprise at all. It's been going on for some time and the authorities have been slow to act.

I saw a report over a year ago by the FSA about the City of London being referred to as a hotbed of money laundering and HSBC Bank were singled out as being culpable of being complicit in allowing dirty money into the system. Large business loans being paid off from offshore funds.....Funnily enough one of which was Belize bank where our old friends Sequentia set up shop, aided by their dodgy solicitor who just so happened to previously work for Belize Bank.
Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 11, 2021, 11:26:39 pm
I wonder if Sequentia ever truly existed, in Belize or anywhere. Their website looked like it was set up by a work experience kid in limited gaps between porn binges in his bedroom.
Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 11, 2021, 11:36:18 pm
I wonder if Sequentia ever truly existed, in Belize or anywhere. Their website looked like it was set up by a work experience kid in limited gaps between porn binges in his bedroom.

I said the same on another thread. The website  was so funny BST wasn't it!!
Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: EasyforDennis on August 12, 2021, 10:54:11 am
And still the roundabout keeps spinning.
Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on August 12, 2021, 11:18:16 am
And still the roundabout keeps spinning.

Yawn.
Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: selby on August 12, 2021, 11:26:34 am
  Look at the transfer fees being paid, look how the big clubs were willing to hang out clubs like ours to dry just 18 months ago, look at how they furloughed staff because they could 18 months ago, and put a fifty per cent tax on all transfers with a total value of over a million, and a seventy per cent tax on all agent fees.
Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: EasyforDennis on August 12, 2021, 11:44:38 am
And still the roundabout keeps spinning.

Yawn.

Yep totally agree.
Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: silent majority on August 12, 2021, 12:14:20 pm
I wonder if Sequentia ever truly existed, in Belize or anywhere. Their website looked like it was set up by a work experience kid in limited gaps between porn binges in his bedroom.

They did exist that's for sure. But the deal worked out was a real kick in the nuts for loyal DRFC fans and a total con. Eventually LT's lawyers came to their senses. I still have copies of the correspondence.

Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: albie on August 12, 2021, 05:21:08 pm
Stand out from the video for me is that the EFL are playing along with this.
They know full well about the tricks set out by Samuelson, but choose to not investigate further, or tighten their own rules in response.

I wonder how many clubs are currently owned by those who used these methods to buy control?
Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: BobG on August 12, 2021, 05:24:38 pm
It might be controversial but I've been wondering for a while now if Britian is not amongst the most corrupt nations on Earth? When one remembers the headlines, the reports, the scandals of the last couple of decades, and when one realises that the scandals which do hit the press, are, by definition, the tip of the iceberg, then Britain does not look good at all does it?

BobG
Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: PDX_Rover on August 12, 2021, 05:57:46 pm
It might be controversial but I've been wondering for a while now if Britian is not amongst the most corrupt nations on Earth? When one remembers the headlines, the reports, the scandals of the last couple of decades, and when one realises that the scandals which do hit the press, are, by definition, the tip of the iceberg, then Britain does not look good at all does it?

BobG

It is Bob. And it has been for centuries. Same as over here in the States. Completely corrupt. They used to hide it better, but in recent years, since Trump actually, they just don’t bother because they know they’re pretty much untouchable.

At least with ‘traditionally’ corrupt countries you know where you stand. They’re going to try and f**k you and you are prepared for it. Example: Mexico… I know a few folks who have been pulled over by local police, who found some previously non-existent problem with their car, and they’ve been asked to pay a ‘fine’ or risk arrest.

It’s not right but it’s generally accepted as a risk and the authorities have not really tried to crack down on it.

Touch wood, have not personally had any issues south of the border…
Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: PDX_Rover on August 12, 2021, 05:59:21 pm
I wonder if Sequentia ever truly existed, in Belize or anywhere. Their website looked like it was set up by a work experience kid in limited gaps between porn binges in his bedroom.

They did exist that's for sure. But the deal worked out was a real kick in the nuts for loyal DRFC fans and a total con. Eventually LT's lawyers came to their senses. I still have copies of the correspondence.



I remember at the time we did a google search on their address and it was some wooden shack!

But still hey… “I have in my hand a piece of paper.”
Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: scawsby steve on August 12, 2021, 07:13:26 pm
It might be controversial but I've been wondering for a while now if Britian is not amongst the most corrupt nations on Earth? When one remembers the headlines, the reports, the scandals of the last couple of decades, and when one realises that the scandals which do hit the press, are, by definition, the tip of the iceberg, then Britain does not look good at all does it?

BobG

We didn't bribe FIFA for the 2022 World Cup, Bob.
Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: normal rules on August 12, 2021, 09:08:04 pm
Two words.

Peterborough United.
Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: normal rules on August 12, 2021, 09:13:17 pm
Crawley town. (When the Majeeds owned them)
Managed at the time no less by the fat bloated toad himself. Him who shouldn’t be named.
Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: BobG on August 12, 2021, 11:18:23 pm
It might be controversial but I've been wondering for a while now if Britian is not amongst the most corrupt nations on Earth? When one remembers the headlines, the reports, the scandals of the last couple of decades, and when one realises that the scandals which do hit the press, are, by definition, the tip of the iceberg, then Britain does not look good at all does it?

BobG

We didn't bribe FIFA for the 2022 World Cup, Bob.

No. But we failed to pay a big enough bribe for our previous application. That was well known after the event. I think I remember even Bobby Charlton saying something about it after we got the one single vote...

BobG
Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 13, 2021, 01:37:38 am
I wonder if Sequentia ever truly existed, in Belize or anywhere. Their website looked like it was set up by a work experience kid in limited gaps between porn binges in his bedroom.

They did exist that's for sure. But the deal worked out was a real kick in the nuts for loyal DRFC fans and a total con. Eventually LT's lawyers came to their senses. I still have copies of the correspondence.



I don't doubt that they existed as a legal entity and I recall your previous posts about how their representatives tried to put the frighteners on you. You have my permanent respect for dealing with that because there were some rough bas**rds reputedly involved. What I meant was that I wonder if they ever existed as more than a front to appear as a genuine, functional company in order to advance the bid. There is no indication as far as I've ever seen that Sequentia did any significant real trading either before or after the whole takeover b*llocks. The stories on their website of the supposed trading they had done looked like a pile of made up shite.
Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: PDX_Rover on August 13, 2021, 07:07:26 am
Well, Rovers could have run out to More Than A Phelan…
Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on August 13, 2021, 08:24:26 am
have posted this league table before

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index



Corruption Perceptions Index - Wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Corruption_Perception...
The 2020 CPI, published in January 2021, currently ranks 180 countries "on a scale from 100 (very clean) to 0 (highly corrupt)" based on the situation between ...
‎Corruption in India · ‎Corruption in Pakistan · ‎Corruption in Malaysia
Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 13, 2021, 08:28:39 am
https://www.legalfutures.co.uk/latest-news/solicitor-who-transferred-1-3m-to-belize-is-suspended-for-money-laundering-breaches

https://www.thebusinessdesk.com/yorkshire/news/2054148-icaew-investigation-decides-against-skipton-firm.

Well, well, well!

Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: silent majority on August 13, 2021, 09:56:34 am
https://www.legalfutures.co.uk/latest-news/solicitor-who-transferred-1-3m-to-belize-is-suspended-for-money-laundering-breaches

https://www.thebusinessdesk.com/yorkshire/news/2054148-icaew-investigation-decides-against-skipton-firm.

Well, well, well!



Yep, we've been keeping track of her for a few years Baz, she was the one doing the dirty work here in the UK and sent out all the threatening letters we were getting.
Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: SydneyRover on August 13, 2021, 10:17:03 am
It's been banks that have facilitated the movement of corrupt money, look no further than  HSBC and governments that have failed to hold them to account, now money can be transferred via blockchain it may already be too late.
Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 13, 2021, 10:50:26 am
https://www.legalfutures.co.uk/latest-news/solicitor-who-transferred-1-3m-to-belize-is-suspended-for-money-laundering-breaches

https://www.thebusinessdesk.com/yorkshire/news/2054148-icaew-investigation-decides-against-skipton-firm.

Well, well, well!



Yep, we've been keeping track of her for a few years Baz, she was the one doing the dirty work here in the UK and sent out all the threatening letters we were getting.


Yes, I remember her from the letter complete with poor grammar and spelling mistakes! Not entirely dissimilar to a dodgy website!

Changed her name recently too! Had a connection with West Yorkshire Rugby League too I seem to remember but I guess you already knew that possible connection back to DRFC?

Anyway, so glad you're here on the otherside with that all behind you!
Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: Filo on August 13, 2021, 10:53:39 am
https://www.legalfutures.co.uk/latest-news/solicitor-who-transferred-1-3m-to-belize-is-suspended-for-money-laundering-breaches

https://www.thebusinessdesk.com/yorkshire/news/2054148-icaew-investigation-decides-against-skipton-firm.

Well, well, well!



Yep, we've been keeping track of her for a few years Baz, she was the one doing the dirty work here in the UK and sent out all the threatening letters we were getting.


Yes, I remember her from the letter complete with poor grammar and spelling mistakes! Not entirely dissimilar to a dodgy website!

Changed her name recently too! Had a connection with West Yorkshire Rugby League too I seem to remember but I guess you already knew that possible connection back to DRFC?

Anyway, so glad you're here on the otherside with that all behind you!

Now known as Susan Hirst
Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 13, 2021, 10:59:30 am
It's been banks that have facilitated the movement of corrupt money, look no further than  HSBC and governments that have failed to hold them to account, now money can be transferred via blockchain it may already be too late.

Some links with HSBC and the Man City Prince that's caused some concern in the not too distant past.
Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: Barmby Rover on August 13, 2021, 11:24:31 am
If a decent government got in and made it a priority to capture illegal money in the City it would close more than half of it down. Football has been a resting place for criminal money for years no. Certainly since the rise of the Premiership, it stinks of illegal money.
Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: albie on August 25, 2021, 10:23:50 pm
Rochdale the latest to attract "investors";
https://twohundredpercent.net/rochdale-matter-trust/

On it goes!
Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: BobG on August 25, 2021, 10:34:18 pm
I saw that Albie.

It shows you the scale of the wealth that is there to be accessed if a small, homely fourth division club is now worthy of the attentions of this sort of people....

BobG
Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 25, 2021, 11:12:12 pm
Parasites!
Title: Re: The men who buy football
Post by: albie on August 26, 2021, 06:23:53 pm
Tracy Crouch interview on the fan led review on the Price of Football podcast;
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-price-of-football/id1482886394