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Viking Chat => Lucky Pint => Topic started by: glosterred on September 28, 2021, 06:46:29 pm
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Tonight’s team
COYR
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No bostock on the bench or Galbraith
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Shame that Galbraith isn't playing
Decent player
Hopefully Gardner will be a good replacement
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No bostock on the bench or Galbraith
Covid?
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Not heard any mention of covid
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Non covid related illness
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IFollow commentator says Galbraith is out due to a knock, not covid related.
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Plenty of bugs floating around so unsurprising but again just our luck
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Once again the game is going to kick off late. Supposed to be 7.45.
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An illness rather than a knock hound
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I thought I heard commentator say a knock mate.
Might have heard wrong I guess.
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IFollow commentator says Galbraith is out due to a knock, not covid related.
Funny I heard it as non covid related illness
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I might need to get a hearing aid then.
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I might need to get a hearing aid then.
Pardon.?
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I might need to get a hearing aid then.
Pardon.?
Granted.
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Different midfield 2 for Ipswich today as well
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Will be interesting to see what Gardner can contribute tonight
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Need to put Burgess under pressure with that early caution
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Good to see us harrying their midfielders when they were in possession then
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Will be interesting to see what Gardner can contribute tonight
If he plants one into the Ipswich goal I would be happy..
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Good start from us this
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shit..
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What a gift from Close, ffs
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Tom got done for pace there.
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Masters of our own downfall yet again
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That was so needless
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Close should have been busting a gut to track Bonne there, but didn’t. Piss poor.
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Ffs. We were looking so composed. Crazy pass
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How one mistake can change a game
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Plenty of time left, game not over yet.
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Crucial game this and a loss will see us losing a bit of ground.
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Our passing is shocking
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20 minutes in. Zero control in the game. No composure, no passing, no chances.
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What a gift from Close, ffs
wasnt it knoyle with the cross field pass
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Zero quality from us so far.
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I can see why Ipswich are where they are in the table, we know our problems not sure they have the same excuse
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What a gift from Close, ffs
wasnt it knoyle with the cross field pass
No it was Close
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Ipswich aren’t great but have any of our lads met each other before? They’ve not managed to complete a single pass yet. Just eleven lads running around. Not a team.
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Not sure what all the hype was about Ben Close…
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Has Close got a bet on Ipswich to win?
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We really don’t have the personal to play 4-3-3, 3-5-2 would suit us so much better until we get the midfield enforcer
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We’re looking like a team of strangers again
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Close and Hiwula have been shocking.
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2:0
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2-0
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Pathetic
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game over :-(
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43% pass success rate.
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Awful. Just awful.
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game over :-(
Season over if you ask me
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We are going down. Can’t defend, can’t stop the opposition playing, can’t string two passes together and can’t create a chance.
Injuries or not, this is woeful football.
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I don’t know what Richie is trying to do here but there is no midfield and no attack and nothing between those six players. Total strangers picked up on motorway on way down to Ipswich.
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I don’t think there is an excuse you can give other than we are just a very poor side
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Its going to be a long horrible season.
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Kyle Knoyle was held in a bear-hug by their number 8 for that corner, clear foul before the goal was scored
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Another tonking on the way, this is garbage
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What was that from Anderson? He seemed to just glance a free header from a corner rather than head it out and it’s cost us a goal. Risible.
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I can see why Ipswich are where they are in the table, we know our problems not sure they have the same excuse
They have some semblance of a formation, a cohesive plan and some ability. We don’t appear to have any of that.
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We really look like a relegation team already. We haven't had a shot yet.
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Deserve everything we get just not good enough no excuses
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There's only one thing more miserable than league one and that's league two.
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Is Wellens in the stands?
Might explain why we are all at sea?
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This is the first live game I am witnessing this season, via ifollow, and good grief what a shit show. You can dress it up how you like but I have to question whether a number of these players are good enough? This is a very poor league 2 side I am seeing. And that’s being generous.
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Watching it on ifollow don’t these commentators understand our players especially in midfield and attack are not good enough. We’ve got what we could afford and I’m not sure they are league one standard. The midfield and forwards last season especially up to January were far better. Avoiding relegation will be hard
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Worst set up I’ve seen for a Rovers squad for a while, inept in all parts of the pitch
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Is Wellens in the stands?
Might explain why we are all at sea?
Has he been in the stands all season?
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Is anybody genuinely surprised we are losing again? I’m not. That’s how bad it’s become.
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Is this the worst midfield since Harper and Fowler stole a living off us?
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Is Wellens in the stands?
Might explain why we are all at sea?
In the dug out.
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At least we will have a top budget in league 2
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Is Wellens in the stands?
Might explain why we are all at sea?
No, tech area
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At least we will have a top budget in league 2
And that's all that matters to some fans...
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Gifting them the first goal was crucial, changed the whole mood of the game.
Our confidence is fragile which is understandable. We were doing ok for the first 15 mins.
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This is the worst performance I have seen in quite a few years
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39 minutes and we’ve not been in their box, shocking!
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At least we will have a top budget in league 2
Sarcasm isn’t lost on me, but on a serious note - where will the desire come from at this club currently to get out of that league?
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Gifting them the first goal was crucial, changed the whole mood of the game.
Our confidence is fragile which is understandable. We were doing ok for the first 15 mins.
We’re we? I know Ipswich didn’t start very well, but we still didn’t put together a meaningful move or create an attack.
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This is as bad as I have seen this season, and potentially for a few!
We can only get better, stringing a couple of passes would be a plus.
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How awful is this, we look like, & are playing like a side 20 points adrift at the end of the season. What are we doing in training? We can't even string 2 passes together & we've been nowhere near their keeper.
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This is the worst performance I have seen in quite a few years
We say this every few games
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Ifollow’s just cut out for me, and the black screen represents the best value for money I’ve had all evening.
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Cukur - Shocking
Smith - Has he put a tackle in?
Why we build a team around these lads is beyond me.
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Come on Richie. What are you going to change? Earn your corn!
This is atrocious. I can accept losing, but I demand hard work. Too many strolling around and taking no care with their passes.
Get it changed.
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We've just won a throw-in.
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No excuses tonight this is very bad. Look as though we have never played together before. Know it’s early in the season but the future looks bleak. Hope I am wrong.
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We've just won a throw-in.
Something to build on.
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Midfield is non existent
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Cukur - Shocking
Smith - Has he put a tackle in?
Why we build a team around these lads is beyond me.
Don’t worry, our main strikers are back soon
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I can see why Ipswich are where they are in the table, we know our problems not sure they have the same excuse
They have some semblance of a formation, a cohesive plan and some ability. We don’t appear to have any of that.
Not arguing about us we look clueless just stating given how much they have spent how poor a side they look
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Too many f**king aimless balls into the channels!
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Get Vilca on for Cukur at HT. Could do with more but it's a start.
There's too much mindless hoofball.
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Utterly clueless first half
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Midfield is non existent
Has been all season
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That is an absolutely horrendous game of football. I saw positives in other games but this is every bit a relegation performance.
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This is Close's worse game.
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That was terrible. The midfield and forward lines haven’t completed a single pass between them. Cukur is almost comically bad tonight.
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Come on Richie. What are you going to change? Earn your corn!
This is atrocious. I can accept losing, but I demand hard work. Too many strolling around and taking no care with their passes.
Get it changed.
Well Rob what players have we got to change it if you can’t see that the you must think this squad is better than what they are. We needed to bring in better we couldn’t so let’s have a go at the manager.
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Why doe RW keep playing Cukur, surely he’s seen enough to convince?
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Horton on for Gardner and move Rowe into midfield. Games gone but we will improve from it. I dont know why people think Rowe is such a brilliant left back. He is miles better in an advanced role.
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Close is not a deep lying midfield player we needed that player.
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So far this half we have been the master of our own downfall. Still 45 minutes to play to do something we’ve not done in the league so far this season and score 2 goals in a game!
COYR
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The players we signed aren't good enough.
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Ipswich aren't winning this game. Were losing it.
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Fine every one of them for that first half non performance, and put Wellens on notice, to get it sorted or out
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How Wellens can lambast Bogle publicly yet stick with Cukur is crazy. This midfield is horrendous and no excuses this has to come down to the manager; about time he took responsibility.
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Kyle Knoyle was held in a bear-hug by their number 8 for that corner, clear foul before the goal was scored
i agree there but I suppose can only look at a certain spot but was in middle of area so should of possibly seen it.
Must be worst we have played this season and up there with Colchester away a few year back
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Rowe is wasted at full back.
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Horton on for Gardner and move Rowe into midfield. Games gone but we will improve from it. I dont know why people think Rowe is such a brilliant left back. He is miles better in an advanced role.
Rowe is undoubtedly a better player in midfield/further forward.
The problem is Horton us awful.
In terms of the comments around our lack of fight/desire and work rate - it’s been like that for the past 25 games.
We are limping into league 2. Nobody at the club appears to batter an eyelid at this fact. Embarrassing and sad to see
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Could be worse, "……………………………………………………………I think?
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This is arguably the worst team we have had since we returned to the football league.
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Was hoping after Saturday we would find a bit more consistency & a pattern to our play. This is woeful. Massive second half improvement needed or the manager has a lot to answer to for me.
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Dodoo will be off ... Yellow card
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Not one shot, chance, cross, corner. Nothing. Very depressing as I actually thought we’d turned a corner. I wonder if all the excuses have been hiding Wellen’s inabilities.
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Fine every one of them for that first half non performance, and put Wellens on notice, to get it sorted or out
But the process brought Richie in but the process was there with not enough money to get players that were good enough. Whoever comes in if they get rid of Richie and they won’t still has the same players.
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Who on earth decided it was a good idea to sign Cukur on loan?
I know he's only a young lad but Christ he's absolutely useless. Can't see what he's here for, other than to run about slowly
Surely there were better options.
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You can blame the player all you want but wellens signed 10 out of the starting 11
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This is arguably the worst team we have had since we returned to the football league.
Very possible this is true
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I can see why Ipswich are where they are in the table, we know our problems not sure they have the same excuse
They have some semblance of a formation, a cohesive plan and some ability. We don’t appear to have any of that.
Not arguing about us we look clueless just stating given how much they have spent how poor a side they look
They do not look a good side at all and I can't see them being higher than mid table.
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What excuses will Wellens come up with this time?
At the moment it looks like he’s signed some real duds, that have n’t got any heart or pride
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You can blame the player all you want but wellens signed 10 out of the starting 11
Yes but the money he had wasn’t enough but let’s not say that
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Nothing team. No skill or confidence or plan. What a waste of wages they’re so poor.
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There is no bite in that midfield. Not a single tackle between them. No link between midfielders or between midfield and attack. No runs, no movement, literally like they have just met. It’s bizarre. I can’t see what he is trying to do here? Anyone else have a better idea?
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Why doe RW keep playing Cukur, surely he’s seen enough to convince?
He’s on loan so if he’s fit he has to play. Same with Smith been like it for years. Not like we’ve much to replace them with like
They’ll play every game pretty much from now till end of season and we’ll probably go down. But at least we’ve developed so of the best young talent Watford/aresensl had to offer. That’s why we support donny innit….
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The players we signed aren't good enough.
I'm sorry to say that Wellens is responsible for that.
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You can blame the player all you want but wellens signed 10 out of the starting 11
Yes but the money he had wasn’t enough but let’s not say that
it was enough. We don't have a bottom 4 budget.
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I can see why Ipswich are where they are in the table, we know our problems not sure they have the same excuse
They have some semblance of a formation, a cohesive plan and some ability. We don’t appear to have any of that.
Not arguing about us we look clueless just stating given how much they have spent how poor a side they look
They do not look a good side at all and I can't see them being higher than mid table.
There fans are creaming themselves on Radio Suffolk , best they've played all season apparently. :laugh:
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This is arguably the worst team we have had since we returned to the football league.
Very possible this is true
I would say it is the worst midfield and forward line since DF got it better. But the funds have reduced year on year and the level of player we want we can’t afford
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Who on earth decided it was a good idea to sign Cukur on loan?
I know he's only a young lad but Christ he's absolutely useless. Can't see what he's here for, other than to run about slowly
Surely there were better options.
There were other options, but we pissed about for so long they went to other clubs. We then had to sign players like cukur in desperation
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Vilca will save us.
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My dad just hit the nail on the head and said we don’t even look organised coming out haha got me that
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You can blame the player all you want but wellens signed 10 out of the starting 11
Yes but the money he had wasn’t enough but let’s not say that
it was enough. We don't have a bottom 4 budget.
How do we know that it’s certainly in the bottom half
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RW - Of course I'm disappointed but what can you expect? we had Galbraith out injured last minute. We have Bostock out injured and it's only Sudokus 15th game back and he's finding match sharpness - a horrid mistake by Close cost us...and he knows he can't get away with that. I mean I told 'em go out and play and they didn't listen. My mate Tommy is tearing his hair out at left back and I understand why..but Hipswich have got a massive budget way beyond us...I mean they could be playing PSG tonight on their budget but ya know...we'll dress ourselves down and get ready to go out again. Hopefully this time we'll have a good ref coz their 2nd tonight was a clear and utter foul it was obvious - I'll probably get an apology from the head of referees tomorrow again...but it's too late they cost us big time. But it was nice to see Big Tom back (again)
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You can blame the player all you want but wellens signed 10 out of the starting 11
Yes but the money he had wasn’t enough but let’s not say that
That's the laziest excuse. Look at the teams in the league with us, there will be somewhere between 8-12 we have a bigger budget than which all will be above us.
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You can blame the player all you want but wellens signed 10 out of the starting 11
Yes but the money he had wasn’t enough but let’s not say that
That's the laziest excuse. Look at the teams in the league with us, there will be somewhere between 8-12 we have a bigger budget than which all will be above us.
That doesn’t suit his argument though does it
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I feel sorry for the fans who have paid good money to have to endure this garbage. The club should reimburse every single penny to each and every one of them. I have turned ifollow off and will be watching Liverpool for the 2nd half. Or should I watch RB Leipzig v Brugge? I am sure that would be better than this rubbish.
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I feel for the 165 who have wasted their time and money going tonight.
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I don't think we've made more than 3 passes in a row today.
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You can blame the player all you want but wellens signed 10 out of the starting 11
Yes but the money he had wasn’t enough but let’s not say that
That's the laziest excuse. Look at the teams in the league with us, there will be somewhere between 8-12 we have a bigger budget than which all will be above us.
Totally agree, therefore the buck stops with Wellens. We are rock bottom and under achieving.
And dont get me started on the recruitment policy its an absolute shambles.
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6 mins into the second half, and Oluwu has already got stuck in more than the rest of them all game.
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You can blame the player all you want but wellens signed 10 out of the starting 11
Yes but the money he had wasn’t enough but let’s not say that
That's the laziest excuse. Look at the teams in the league with us, there will be somewhere between 8-12 we have a bigger budget than which all will be above us.
That doesn’t suit his argument though does it
Everybody is above us and I cannot see that changing anytime soon.
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Nothing is working here, every ball goes astray, headers going in opposite directions, players falling over each other… it’s a bizarre performance
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This left back for Ipswich, Matt Penney, is he related to our former Manager Dave Penney?
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Wellens is not good enough as a manager ,but alot of fans will. It see that as he was a great midfielder
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Olowu MOTM
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Smith can't even foul/get carded right!
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Your blindness as a supporter gives you some hope you might be better in the 2nd half, but no, we're shite.
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Olowu looks are most composed defender and only one who wants to win
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Is anybody even looking forward to Saturday?? Can anybody honestly say they are?
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I hate to be so critical but Cukur is absolutely woeful. I don’t think he’s shown anything in his multiple appearances so far to demonstrate that he is physically or technically good enough.
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Is anybody even looking forward to Saturday?? Can anybody honestly say they are?
Yep. I'd have stopped going years ago otherwise.
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I hate to be so critical but Cukur is absolutely woeful. I don’t think he’s shown anything in his multiple appearances so far to demonstrate that he is physically or technically good enough.
And Hiwula was subbed before him !?!?
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We are getting forward a bit more, but I feel Ipswich are allowing it, waiting to pick us off.
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Is there maybe more illness in the camp than admitted?
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We are getting forward a bit more, but I feel Ipswich are allowing it, waiting to pick us off.
They probably feel sorry for us
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Is there maybe more illness in the camp than admitted?
If the symptoms are not being very good at football, possibly Dutch.
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Is anybody even looking forward to Saturday?? Can anybody honestly say they are?
Is anybody even looking forward to Saturday?? Can anybody honestly say they are?
I am. A pre-match walk round the Lake to the Cheswold for a couple of pints. Then walk back to the Keepmoat and watch us win. Happy drive back to Bradford a quick bite and then out dancing.
The only problem is getting petrol before Saturday.
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I hate to be so critical but Cukur is absolutely woeful. I don’t think he’s shown anything in his multiple appearances so far to demonstrate that he is physically or technically good enough.
He should be on loan at a conference north team at best. That’s his level right now.
And he’s leading our line. It stinks of desperation
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We’ve had a shot!,!!!
COYR
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I hate to be so critical but Cukur is absolutely woeful. I don’t think he’s shown anything in his multiple appearances so far to demonstrate that he is physically or technically good enough.
And Hiwula was subbed before him !?!?
Hiwula is also total garbage.
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Better this half, nice move that.
Come on lads
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Is there maybe more illness in the camp than admitted?
I did hear someone say that Wellens has a bad side. :chair:
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3-0
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Time to shut down. Seen enough of this crap for a night.
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Better this half, nice move that.
Come on lads
I've had nicer bowel movements.
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67 minutes and we’ve had our first shot
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What are the positives?
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This will end up 4 or 5
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4-0
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Copps in.
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Can we get any worse?
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Spoke too soon, sorry
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I was willing to give Wellens the benefit of the doubt, but he's signed some absolute trash here.
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If the excuse is made that the players are tired im done.
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We're just not good enough time for wellens to go
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Yes I’ve shut down had enough finished
Yes Richie should go for his own good.
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It’s absolutely terrible. Beyond terrible. This is 97/98 standard but with well paid senior players not YTS lads and non league players.
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It’s hard to believe but shows how poor we are. This will be Ipswich’s first home win this season according to the commentators.
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Disgusting. Embarrassing. Never seen anything this bad. A total disgrace. We don’t have one good player.
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Our recruitment since Ferguson went has been absolutely w**k.
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f**king useless, Wellens not up to the job
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Ipswich commentator says we’re the worst side he’s seen at their place in recent seasons! I doubt he’s wrong.
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An absolute shambles. Problem is I don’t see where / how it’ll improve
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5-0
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Commentators said Doncaster are the worse team he's seen in the last few season.
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Our recruitment since Ferguson went has been absolutely w**k.
Well Donny at last someone seen the truth
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We don't have a single quality player in the whole squad.
No chance of us staying up.
I'm afraid Wellens has blown the budget on rubbish and he is not the man for the job.
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FFS. 5-0 and not sure that’s the end of it. Still quarter of an hour to go yet
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Get Copps in. Give him something in January to at least try and stay up. If not, build from league two.
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Our recruitment since Ferguson went has been absolutely w**k.
Well Donny at last someone seen the truth
It isn't due to the size of the budget though.
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f**king embarrassing. I don’t care I’ve sworn, it’s after the watershed. This and the 6-0 v Rotherham in the space of 4 weeks.
Pathetic again
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No excuses tonight RW … admit, you have failed the supporters.
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That’s me done for tonight. £10 and 75 minutes wasted and I won’t waste a second more.
How the hell has this “recruitment team” bought such a load of dross in the last year or so? We need to recruit a new recruitment team.
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6-0
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6!!!!!
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taxi for.....?
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What does Wellens do with them all week? I struggle to call them a team, but we have a group of players who make the same mistakes week in, week out, and never at any point look cohesive or playing under any structure. Oh it’s now six.
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I would give Wellens max 5 more games to turn this round and if he can't the Board needs to get rid of him.
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Inexcusable. Club is absolutely rotten.
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RW must be on very thin ice now.
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Gonna win 7-6
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Bring back Butler.
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f**k off Wellens!
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Apart from the 6 goals, I think we played alright.
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Their commentators are gloating. This is embarrassing. 6 now! Worse than the Rotherham debacle is this!
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Apart from the 6 goals, I think we played alright.
:laugh:
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This is objectively absolutely terrible. The stats must show the least shots on goal at this point in a season, surely the least goals, and surely the most conceded since 97/98. It gets no better. It get worse. It’s beyond bad.
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Worst thing is Ipswich haven't been anything special
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Ya gotta go down to get up!
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Anyone know when Ipswich last scored 6 goals? Yep, against us in 2011!
:facepalm: :headbang: :crying:
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Their commentators are gloating. This is embarrassing. 6 now! Worse than the Rotherham debacle is this!
f**k em. Ipswich will be nowhere this season. They look shite. Lucky for them, they are playing a terrible team tonight.
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Absolutely no fight in this team whatsoever and that I'm afraid is totally down to Wellens, budgets have nothing to do with it. Cambridge, Accrington, Burton and a few others will have a lower budget than us yet they appear to be showing a lot more fight and desire than us!!
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Please resign RW
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Oh Christ
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Absolutely no fight in this team whatsoever and that I'm afraid is totally down to Wellens, budgets have nothing to do with it. Cambridge, Accrington, Burton and a few others will have a lower budget than us yet they appear to be showing a lot more fight and desire than us!!
I put it down to long term player recruitment too when you consider the performances at the end of the season.
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Apart from the 6 goals, I think we played alright.
are you serious
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S9KXrRUZqtw
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Game over.
6-0
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From the start of the season it was all wrong in fact from the start of pre season, things need to change not just Wellens but above him 2
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Apart from the 6 goals, I think we played alright.
are you serious
:rolleyes: I think it might be gallows humour Keith !
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As it stands at the moment, our goal difference is twice as bad as the next worse in league one. Without stating the obvious if we don't start stringing a few wins together soon it's going to be a very long season
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This has been as poor as it has ever been for a long long time. Not one to jump on sack the manager bandwagon, but the powers to be at DRFC have a lot of thinking to do about RW’s future. If change is to be made it has to be sooner rather than later though.
Onwards and upwards, and hoping for a lot better on Saturday
COYR
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Two 6-0 in a matter of weeks are grounds for resigning, that was a horror show!
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Think that was our lowest pass success rate for 4 years+
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Unless we go on amazing run I wouldn't trust him with any money in January. I think he will be gone before Christmas.
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Come on Richie. What are you going to change? Earn your corn!
This is atrocious. I can accept losing, but I demand hard work. Too many strolling around and taking no care with their passes.
Get it changed.
Well Rob what players have we got to change it if you can’t see that the you must think this squad is better than what they are. We needed to bring in better we couldn’t so let’s have a go at the manager.
Richie sets the tactics, sets them up, sets the game plan. At 2-0 down that's gone and it's obvious that we can't pass let alone have a shot on goal.
He has to change something. Anything. Instead he's pacing up and down the technical area with his arms folded. He can see how bad it is if we all can. He's in a position to do something, we aren't.
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What money in January, there won’t f**king be any money clubs f**ked from the core
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Shocking. Interested to see what RW says and how he plans to right the ship.
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Shocking. Interested to see what RW says and how he plans to right the ship.
The only way he can right the ship is to walk, get someone in that knows a bit about management