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Title: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: selby on October 16, 2021, 09:12:25 pm
  No doubt old Fatty Evans will look at the comments about us being bullied today, which  aided by an awful official Wycombe played to type and did it to us again.
  Gillingham have and will try again to do exactly the same to us on Tuesday night, think Akinfenwa think Akinde think every trick in the book, think pressure on the referee,think gamesmanship being taken to an extreme as against Wycombe, and you have a typical fatty Evans team.
 Against Sunderland they had by far the less of the ball, but still managed 25 shots at goal, so a shoot on sight policy, and Sunderland were reduced to ten men, so still to type for a fatty Evans team. Thinking about it that is probably more shots than us all this season.
  Are Gillingham as good as Wycombe? probably not, but we are under the pressure of needing to come away from the game with something , a draw or preferably a win, as our form up to press this season has built pressure on ourselves.
   What team will we put out?
   Can we turn form shown today around for the better?
   Will we ever have 25 shots in a game?
   How do you expect the game to pan out?
   Lots to discuss about this game, the managers, the two clubs present plight, and if we can turn it around for the better, please have your say.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: 5minstogo on October 16, 2021, 10:10:04 pm
We had 13 shots today!
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: selby on October 16, 2021, 10:33:45 pm
 Its a long way off 25
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: 5minstogo on October 16, 2021, 11:06:02 pm
Only one shot less than Rotherham and they scored four goals.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: Colin C No.3 on October 17, 2021, 12:44:08 am
Our first 3 points ‘on the road’.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: Bailey Vickerage on October 17, 2021, 02:11:07 am
These next 6 games are massive and it’s a must win on Tuesday, win and we’re 1 point behind Gillingham who are currently just above the relegation zone with 2 games in hand, lose and we could be 7 points off safety. It could also be our first points on the road and that be huge going into the run in we have. Need at least 12 points imo from the next 6 and a win would be a good confidence booster.

My team would be:

Dahlberg

Knoyle
Olowu
Anderson
Rowe

Galbraith
Bostock
Close

Dodoo
Cukur
Hiwula

Taylor looked threatening after coming on yesterday but don’t think he will be ready for a start, another 20-30 mins off the bench would be good and then maybe push for a start against Cheltenham.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: eastender on October 17, 2021, 09:18:30 am
Our form on the road so far has been woeful , 6 games and not a single point to show for it.
So sorry to be negative , but for me Gillingham away on a Tuesday night has a 2-0 defeat written all over it, i hope they prove me wrong and give it a real go.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: sha66y on October 17, 2021, 09:19:45 am
All games herein are tough to call, we don’t have anything or anyone great to call upon,
we could win, we might draw, but I fear the worst……
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: Campsall rover on October 17, 2021, 09:28:50 am
Our form on the road so far has been woeful so far, 6 games and not a single point to show for it.
So sorry to be negative , but for me Gillingham away on a Tuesday night has a 2-0 defeat written all over it, i hope they prove me wrong and give it a real go.
Based on our record at the Priestfield you are right. But we seriously need to step on the gas on Tuesday and come back with at least a point.
This is a seriously big game even this early in the season. If we lose then we are under huge pressure to win the next 2 home games that follow.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: wilts rover on October 17, 2021, 09:47:47 am
We need to play a more defensive formation and aim for a draw (and maybe nick a goal from a set piece). No point hoping for a win when you pretty much know you are going to concede at any time.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: rich1471 on October 17, 2021, 11:10:29 am
Let's be honest if we lose Tuesday and Saturday I cannot see wellens lasting much longer as I cannot remember the last time a new manger who did not last till Christmas ,hope he turns it around but I just don't think he his good enough ,hope I wrong , but the next 2 games will be tough and we play to much tippy tappy football with know real hard man in the middle to win the ball back and get us moving forward with pace
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on October 17, 2021, 01:07:47 pm
every time i see that massive stand behind the goal i feel cold despite never being there - open to the elements to say the least

just checked Gillinghams goals scored according to the bbc

 out of a total of 16 games
they have failed to score 4 times ----  scored once 9 times and twice 3 times

for october they have scored 1 goal in 4 matches -- the penalty yesterday

september out of 6 games   scored once 5 times and scored two goals once --  so scored in every match


august
  out of 6 games  scored 0 once .... scored once 3 times and scored twice 3 times

so they are having a goaldroughtfest as opposed to Rovers Octoberfest


the fact that Rovers could take the lead away against both Wigan & Plymouth ( who are currently defying the doubters CLH included) cannot be forgotten - so ...  win please me thinx  :scarf:

Old man Akinde was on the bench yesterday along with Sithole (the player not the ground)  he must have had a great time at school . A close call which is the better name his or Virtue-Thick

At least the other "pudding"  will be on the touchline managing as opposed to playing this time

Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: Padge_DRFC on October 17, 2021, 06:14:17 pm
Going to this one for some strange reason. Driving. Easy job and parking as well?
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: Chris Black come back on October 17, 2021, 07:30:28 pm
If you were to pick a game that this side wouldn’t win, it would be a Tuesday evening away to a Gillingham side managed by Steve Evans.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: BobG on October 17, 2021, 07:36:49 pm
Yes. My first reaction on seeing the title of this thread was 'I'd rather not!'

BobG
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: selby on October 18, 2021, 09:05:20 am
  Must have been one of the brief moments you had nothing to say Bob.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: DRCraig on October 18, 2021, 10:36:02 am
Think we will win this one. We have to.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: jamesrover17 on October 18, 2021, 10:54:52 am
To quote a clichéd footballing term... It's a 6 pointer for sure

Loose and we are 7 points a drift

I would think these next 3 games could steer us away from the bottom 4... 7 points from 9 would be the minimum
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: acacia94 on October 18, 2021, 11:12:16 am
Its lovely to be optimistic but not sure where its coming from. Its always been a really tough away game and against any Bunter Evans side will be like a car park scrap.
They're pretty much as bad as us at the mo but they've scored twice as many goals. A draw at Preistfield has always been a decent result.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: 5minstogo on October 18, 2021, 11:29:02 am
Its lovely to be optimistic but not sure where its coming from. Its always been a really tough away game and against any Bunter Evans side will be like a car park scrap.
They're pretty much as bad as us at the mo but they've scored twice as many goals. A draw at Preistfield has always been a decent result.

I agree. I didnt fancy us against Wycombe and I don't expect to get much if anything out of Gillingham tomorrow. Its a long trip and a horrible stereotypical Evans side to play against. I don't think we have the type of players who will go toe to toe with physicality. We stand a better chance beating a footballing team.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: Bentley Bullet on October 18, 2021, 12:14:42 pm
It would have been interesting to see Wellens' reaction to the fat controller's antics tomorrow night. Maybe it's a good job he's got a touchline ban, he might have t**tted him!
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: Chris Black come back on October 18, 2021, 01:05:15 pm
We’ve got a terrible record there. In our last 20 visits to Priestfield I think we’ve only won twice. Hard to see a win tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: acacia94 on October 18, 2021, 01:12:56 pm
I know Chris I'm just not seeing this optimism! Its always been bad down there and just because they're not great at the mo – we're bloody awful!
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: Chris Black come back on October 18, 2021, 02:04:12 pm
Their home record in the league this season isn’t great, but it is fairly respectable. They’ve only lost to Sunderland, Wigan and MK Dons.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: Bailey Vickerage on October 18, 2021, 02:09:25 pm
Liam hoden just said on Twitter that Taylor is a doubt due to his ankle swelling up after the game on Saturday.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: Campsall rover on October 18, 2021, 02:37:38 pm
It would have been interesting to see Wellens' reaction to the fat controller's antics tomorrow night. Maybe it's a good job he's got a touchline ban, he might have t**tted him!
Was saying the same the other day BB. Blessing in disguise that one. I seriously think RW would have lost it completely watching and listening to Fatty Evans antics on the touch line.
There would have been a proper scrap i reckon.
Think RW would be too quick for him and it would have been a straight knock out. No way would it go the distance.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: TheFunk on October 18, 2021, 04:45:27 pm
We are struggling for players yet again. Taylor most likely out for tomorrow and on Saturday both Seaman and Gardner were wearing protective boots so God knows how long they are out for. Seaman said his injury is a fracture in his foot.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: steve@dcfd on October 18, 2021, 05:28:49 pm
Yes back to two GKs and 15 outfield players look like being fit for tomorrow night.


Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: ForsolongaRover on October 19, 2021, 09:21:33 am
There seems quite a flare up recently in the movement amongst some Gills fans to get rid of the Chairman. Disturbances in one of the bars on Saturday and a plane flying overhead with a banner “Time for change Scally out”, so pretty serious stuff.

This may not be entirely helpful to their players or their support, such as it is.

Anyone travelling to the match by car needs to get there in good time because the area around the ground offers no street parking. I usually park on the road going in at Great Lines Park which keeps you away from the maze of streets with terrace houses further on. It is then a 20/25 minute walk, but you have no traffic problems at either end. Getting to Gillingham is straightforward enough once you are over the bridge at Dartford.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: rtidfco on October 19, 2021, 10:00:12 am
Chris Black. Only won twice at Gillingham and was at both of them as I only live 3 miles away. Hoping for a third tonight then!
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: DRCraig on October 19, 2021, 11:24:16 am
Matchday. Come on Doncaster.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: andy didcott on October 19, 2021, 12:56:06 pm
Back to winning ways you reds. FFS.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: Pside on October 19, 2021, 01:45:01 pm
Heart say 0-1 Rovers

Head says 2-1 Gillingham
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: Campsall rover on October 19, 2021, 01:55:21 pm
Heart say 0-1 Rovers

Head says 2-1 Gillingham
Settle for a draw. I will take that, although a win would be  great.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: normal rules on October 19, 2021, 07:45:44 pm
I see rovers standing in unity tonight. Like this.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: normal rules on October 19, 2021, 07:51:27 pm
Knoyle puts that left of keeper and it’s one up.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: normal rules on October 19, 2021, 08:09:11 pm
After 23 mins only one team in this attacking wise.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: drfchound on October 19, 2021, 08:28:39 pm
After 23 mins only one team in this attacking wise.





40mins now and that is still the case.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: normal rules on October 19, 2021, 08:29:19 pm
Bostock been superb
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: StocksArmy on October 19, 2021, 08:40:49 pm
Totally void of quality when it matters.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: normal rules on October 19, 2021, 09:28:11 pm
That there sums up rovers season so far. On top first half. Zero quality in final third. Now paying the price. Again.
Gills do not deserve to be winning this.
Knoyle had two good chances first half. His decision making was shocking.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: normal rules on October 19, 2021, 09:30:59 pm
On a night when Crewe, shrews, fleetwood and charlton getting beat, this is difficult to take. So much at stake.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: MachoMadness on October 19, 2021, 09:31:16 pm
We are so weak going forward. Can't remember a rovers team that was as poor as this in the final third, relative to the standard required.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on October 19, 2021, 09:33:04 pm
I think we might have been better with Thomas and Bingham upfront a few years ago. They had better goal return than this lot.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: Pside on October 19, 2021, 09:36:22 pm
Times time Richie I’m afraid. Devoid of everything again
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: normal rules on October 19, 2021, 09:39:06 pm
Dodoo how to waste a free kick in a very challenging position . Cant even hit it on target.
I’ve spoken about the young lad at Thorne Colliery Evan Fortune west. Can he really be worse than anyone we have up front at the moment ?
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on October 19, 2021, 09:40:53 pm
Dodoo how to waste a free kick in a very challenging position . Cant even hit it on target.
I’ve spoken about the young lad at Thorne Colliery Evan Fortune west. Can he really be worse than anyone we have up front at the moment ?

Can we sign loan players from that division? We’re only interested in developing other teams players
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: DonnyOsmond on October 19, 2021, 09:43:58 pm
Dodoo how to waste a free kick in a very challenging position . Cant even hit it on target.
I’ve spoken about the young lad at Thorne Colliery Evan Fortune west. Can he really be worse than anyone we have up front at the moment ?

Can we sign loan players from that division? We’re only interested in developing other teams players

The only outfield loanees are Galbraith and Cukur, so that sounds a bit dramatic.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: normal rules on October 19, 2021, 09:45:16 pm
So disappointing.so much promise in the first half. It’s like they stayed in the dressing room for the second half.
What  really cuts deep is all the results went our way tonight for at least a draw.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: StocksArmy on October 19, 2021, 09:45:43 pm
We will be fine. Fej will be back soon.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: normal rules on October 19, 2021, 09:46:16 pm
We will be fine. Fej will be back soon.

Yeah. Right .
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: GazLaz on October 19, 2021, 09:47:12 pm
We are basically playing without a striker when Cuker is up there. He’s miles off it. Dodoo is poor. JH is decent but when they the only one who carries a threat we don’t have much hope. Taylor and Fey were the answer but they may not play 15 games between them this season.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: Padge_DRFC on October 19, 2021, 09:47:39 pm
I'd rather have Bingham and Thomas than that waste of space Dodoo. Someone compared him to Ivan Toney a few weeks ago which is hilarious just because he scored against Man City u12s. Worst striker in God knows how long
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: Standanista on October 19, 2021, 09:49:34 pm
Taxi for Wellens.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: albie on October 19, 2021, 09:50:03 pm
Injuries meant not enough subs, so instead of putting Bogle on the bench we go without the option up top.

Makes no sense to me, I can't get my head around how Wellens thinks.
Does anybody trust his recruitment as far as the next window goes?
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on October 19, 2021, 09:50:28 pm
Dodoo how to waste a free kick in a very challenging position . Cant even hit it on target.
I’ve spoken about the young lad at Thorne Colliery Evan Fortune west. Can he really be worse than anyone we have up front at the moment ?

Can we sign loan players from that division? We’re only interested in developing other teams players

The only outfield loanees are Galbraith and Cukur, so that sounds a bit dramatic.

Is a bit, I tend to get dramatic when we lose!

Point stands though. Cukur has played better of late but we won’t benefit from his experience next season in L2.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: Prez on October 19, 2021, 09:52:17 pm
Our crossing tonight had been disgraceful. Compare that to Gills who put dangerous balls into the box on several occasions.

That was the difference.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: Campsall rover on October 19, 2021, 09:53:11 pm
If we can’t score we have problems.

That was a game we should really have won comfortably. How many chances did we waste?
Gillingham as usual only dangerous on set pieces and yet again that was our undoing. That place is a graveyard for us. What a shocking record we have at the Priestfield.

Needs to change quickly of we our going to have our work cut out to survive.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on October 19, 2021, 09:54:58 pm
Injuries meant not enough subs, so instead of putting Bogle on the bench we go without the option up top.

Makes no sense to me, I can't get my head around how Wellens thinks.
Does anybody trust his recruitment as far as the next window goes?

No. If the board believe there’s a good chance of staying up if some money is thrown at it in Jan we can’t have Wellens and Younger wasting it.

Same applies on L2 next season can the people who took us to rock bottom of L1 be trusted to push for promotion? Fergie had a much bigger CV when he was trusted with that. From what I’ve seen I wouldn’t be doing that again.

We supposedly had 6 easier games. Once they are done if we’re still looking like this then it’s time to go IMO
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: roversdude on October 19, 2021, 09:55:19 pm
For how well we played the first half, we forgot everything we had done.
Knoyle is a liability, pity Seaman is injured as a real chance to get in the team on Saturday. Best game Williams has had in ages
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: since-1969 on October 19, 2021, 09:57:39 pm
Excuses that’s all we’ve had all season , from signing players , to preseason long term injuries , players changing their minds about signing , covid illness , touch line bans ? Imo get shut now  and just appoint someone who’s been there and worn the Tshirt !!
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: DonnyOsmond on October 19, 2021, 09:58:57 pm
Excuses that’s all we’ve had all season , from signing players , to preseason long term injuries , players changing their minds about signing , covid illness , touch line bans ? Imo get shut now  and just appoint someone who’s been there and worn the tea shirt !!

Who do you propose?
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: Campsall rover on October 19, 2021, 10:01:15 pm
Just like to say I thought Bostock had a very good 1st half.
I have been very critical of him but credit where credit is due.
2nd half he looked a little leggy so is it he is not capable of a 90 min performance?  It would seem not.
Ben Close I thought was pretty much anonymous tonight.
Curkur excellent and is improving game on game. Whu was he subbed? Did not make any sense to me.

Shooting practice the priority along with set piece practice this week.
Our set pieces are a joke.

Very disappointed because we were the better team and only one trying to play football.
If you can’t score you don’t win and we seem almost incapable of keeping a clean sheet.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on October 19, 2021, 10:03:13 pm
Probably a overreaction but I actually think for once we have the time to do a long winded manager search or we will do soon. Think even the most optimistic will struggle to believe we will stay up.

Concentrate on getting the next appointment right (we normally do a decent job of that tbf) and give them Jan and the rest of the season to prepare for a proper season next year
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: Chris Black come back on October 19, 2021, 10:39:33 pm
If we are being honest then losing 1-0 there is historically not that bad really, as we always do terribly there. However, we are now proper in the shit and no sign of getting out. An abysmal defensive record continues and more recent horrific scoring record continues. Overall not too much to be positive about.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: danumdon on October 19, 2021, 11:06:18 pm
The problems where do you start,


We have a keeper who flatters to deceive too often, i've now had it confirmed to me he is dire, can't catch, punches when he should catch, blames everyone around him when he's the issue, can't command his box, can't kick, rushes to the edge of the area and then stands there looking like a simpleton, i got it all wrong backing this looser, My god am i saying this, "get Jones back in"

Knoyle has gone backwards faster than a French regiment on the Maginot line. Really poor tonight, had that great chance early on and fluffed it, had another shot a little later and poor direction straight at the keeper, why did he use his left foot? had loads of time, poor defending, lack of an outlet and no overlapping down the wing, Seaman with a broken foot would be an improvement.

Rowe, never a left back in a million years, if the legs have gone (and it looks that way) then he's not an improvement on what we have already, Horton is an improvement, honestly, and will pay us dividends next year when he's first choice.

Williams, started off well but as the game went on allowed the two big lumps to unsettle him, when he reaches that state he plays like he's never heard of the word football before. Get Olowu on, now.

Anderson, where do you start, has gone from captain fantastic to a lump of wood, no drive, leadership gone out of the window looks like a drunk playing football, can't seem to inspire himself never mind the team. Come in Cam John, your numbers up, we need you kid.

Galbraith, neat and tidy, too small to influence the game and no one wants to pass to him, needs to scream at the rest to get on the ball.

Close, same again but costs us more, scream louder and find 15%

Bostock, 'ive said it all along this bloke is gone at the game, i could play his game sat in front of the defence spraying passes around to his defenders with the odd forward ball, all done at an unbelievably slow pace that scares no teams and just allows then to re group and block, how we all undervalued Ben Whiteman, where can we find another?

Hiwula, looks like he should be a good fit for us but flatters to deceive all the bloody time, seems to play himself out of the match too often and can't find a way back, needs a massive boost of confidence to rattle him into action, should be a top player for us, not happening.

Cukur, had a decent game on sat, started off well but faded badly back into his old ways, i hate the fact i have to say this, but we have to bite our lip and hold our nose, Bogle, we need you (Jesus Christ, and that's from a left footer)

Dodoo, what can i say, had high hopes for this lad, looked like he would make a difference and started off his spell with us brightly but every game since is proving what we all thought, Bingham and Thomas were not that bad.

Taylor and Fegi, no pressure fellas, the fate of the club rests on a dodgy hamstring and a flatfoot.,

Oh my god.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: Chris Black come back on October 19, 2021, 11:11:48 pm
The problems where do you start,


We have a keeper who flatters to deceive too often, i've now had it confirmed to me he is dire, can't catch, punches when he should catch, blames everyone around him when he's the issue, can't command his box, can't kick, rushes to the edge of the area and then stands there looking like a simpleton, i got it all wrong backing this looser, My god am i saying this, "get Jones back in"

Knoyle has gone backwards faster than a French regiment on the Maginot line. Really poor tonight, had that great chance early on and fluffed it, had another shot a little later and poor direction straight at the keeper, why did he use his left foot? had loads of time, poor defending, lack of an outlet and no overlapping down the wing, Seaman with a broken foot would be an improvement.

Rowe, never a left back in a million years, if the legs have gone (and it looks that way) then he's not an improvement on what we have already, Horton is an improvement, honestly, and will pay us dividends next year when he's first choice.

Williams, started off well but as the game went on allowed the two big lumps to unsettle him, when he reaches that state he plays like he's never heard of the word football before. Get Olowu on, now.

Anderson, where do you start, has gone from captain fantastic to a lump of wood, no drive, leadership gone out of the window looks like a drunk playing football, can't seem to inspire himself never mind the team. Come in Cam John, your numbers up, we need you kid.

Galbraith, neat and tidy, too small to influence the game and no one wants to pass to him, needs to scream at the rest to get on the ball.

Close, same again but costs us more, scream louder and find 15%

Bostock, 'ive said it all along this bloke is gone at the game, i could play his game sat in front of the defence spraying passes around to his defenders with the odd forward ball, all done at an unbelievably slow pace that scares no teams and just allows then to re group and block, how we all undervalued Ben Whiteman, where can we find another?

Hiwula, looks like he should be a good fit for us but flatters to deceive all the bloody time, seems to play himself out of the match too often and can't find a way back, needs a massive boost of confidence to rattle him into action, should be a top player for us, not happening.

Cukur, had a decent game on sat, started off well but faded badly back into his old ways, i hate the fact i have to say this, but we have to bite our lip and hold our nose, Bogle, we need you (Jesus Christ, and that's from a left footer)

Dodoo, what can i say, had high hopes for this lad, looked like he would make a difference and started off his spell with us brightly but every game since is proving what we all thought, Bingham and Thomas were not that bad.

Taylor and Fegi, no pressure fellas, the fate of the club rests on a dodgy hamstring and a flatfoot.,

Oh my god.

Superb write up. Don’t agree with all of it but very well written. Our two centre backs get scared by their own shadows. Easily bullied.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: TheFunk on October 19, 2021, 11:16:38 pm
Tonight with 20 or 30 minutes to go we could have brought Taylor on to give them something to think about. Oh I forgot our supreme leader decided to bring him on in a game long gone he'd already said he didn't want to use him in. Richie if you love the club as much as you say you do just walk. I truly hope you all come back and mock me for the previous sentence last summer.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on October 20, 2021, 02:16:36 am
Some of the young players need to realise they are men. They are better than they have shown so far.
For me we don’t look as fit as we should be at this stage of the season.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: roversdude on October 20, 2021, 09:07:01 am
Some of the young players need to realise they are men. They are better than they have shown so far.
For me we don’t look as fit as we should be at this stage of the season.

I agree Sammy, hopefully Greeny can get them fit
Richie mentioned he needs a couple of men in there and I don’t think he meant bodies he needs someone to stand up and lead by example.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: ForsolongaRover on October 20, 2021, 10:09:10 am
If Copps were put in charge do we think he could teach them to play just a little bit of skilful football? And would Greenie be able to actually tell them that playing one good half is not enough. They need to be fit enough to keep it up for 90 minutes and it might make up a bit until they got better on the ball and develop better mutual understanding which is also lacking.

We could see what they might achieve between now and January.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: donnievic on October 20, 2021, 10:15:09 am
Injuries meant not enough subs, so instead of putting Bogle on the bench we go without the option up top.

Makes no sense to me, I can't get my head around how Wellens thinks.
Does anybody trust his recruitment as far as the next window goes?
tbf vilca took Ill in the afternoon so bit late getting a replacement down their at that time although in past we have had younger lads travel with the team.
 Thought 1st half we were by far the better team again but 2nd half wellens should have changed it when they were getting on top and another poor decision by the officials last night with their goal as should of been ruled out for offside,also surprised wellens didn’t mention it in his interview yet went on about Rowe shoukd of had a penalty when he was pulled down late on when he said was a yard or 2 onside however looked opposite to me looked the offside clearly,think it’s time to start playing him further up the field now and not at left back but Richie won’t want to do it as he brought him in as a full back so won’t want to change.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: Campsall rover on October 20, 2021, 12:44:45 pm
The problems where do you start,


We have a keeper who flatters to deceive too often, i've now had it confirmed to me he is dire, can't catch, punches when he should catch, blames everyone around him when he's the issue, can't command his box, can't kick, rushes to the edge of the area and then stands there looking like a simpleton, i got it all wrong backing this looser, My god am i saying this, "get Jones back in"

Knoyle has gone backwards faster than a French regiment on the Maginot line. Really poor tonight, had that great chance early on and fluffed it, had another shot a little later and poor direction straight at the keeper, why did he use his left foot? had loads of time, poor defending, lack of an outlet and no overlapping down the wing, Seaman with a broken foot would be an improvement.

Rowe, never a left back in a million years, if the legs have gone (and it looks that way) then he's not an improvement on what we have already, Horton is an improvement, honestly, and will pay us dividends next year when he's first choice.

Williams, started off well but as the game went on allowed the two big lumps to unsettle him, when he reaches that state he plays like he's never heard of the word football before. Get Olowu on, now.

Anderson, where do you start, has gone from captain fantastic to a lump of wood, no drive, leadership gone out of the window looks like a drunk playing football, can't seem to inspire himself never mind the team. Come in Cam John, your numbers up, we need you kid.

Galbraith, neat and tidy, too small to influence the game and no one wants to pass to him, needs to scream at the rest to get on the ball.

Close, same again but costs us more, scream louder and find 15%

Bostock, 'ive said it all along this bloke is gone at the game, i could play his game sat in front of the defence spraying passes around to his defenders with the odd forward ball, all done at an unbelievably slow pace that scares no teams and just allows then to re group and block, how we all undervalued Ben Whiteman, where can we find another?

Hiwula, looks like he should be a good fit for us but flatters to deceive all the bloody time, seems to play himself out of the match too often and can't find a way back, needs a massive boost of confidence to rattle him into action, should be a top player for us, not happening.

Cukur, had a decent game on sat, started off well but faded badly back into his old ways, i hate the fact i have to say this, but we have to bite our lip and hold our nose, Bogle, we need you (Jesus Christ, and that's from a left footer)

Dodoo, what can i say, had high hopes for this lad, looked like he would make a difference and started off his spell with us brightly but every game since is proving what we all thought, Bingham and Thomas were not that bad.

Taylor and Fegi, no pressure fellas, the fate of the club rests on a dodgy hamstring and a flatfoot.,

Oh my god.
Same here great write up, don’t agree with all you say but some of it is spot on imo.

Dahlberg needs to boss the 6 yd box more than he is doing and why oh why can’t he catch the ball more often. Having said that I do not think Jones is the answer just yet.

This propensity with punching the ball in the modern era is baffling me.
I was a keeper and I hardly ever punched it. Last resort only when you absolutely had no choice.

I am seriously questioning our goalkeeping coach. Paul Gerrard was a very decent keeper in his day who played in the Premier League with Everton.
He is also apparently in charge of our set piece defence and offensive. Need I say any more.
We concede more goals from set pieces than open play and our offence set pieces are shocking.
Last night who told Dodoo to take one and aim for a non existent ball boy 15 yards to the right of the goal.

Bostock much better 1st half last night but still does not link up the play further up the pitch a la Whiteman.
As you said you are me could play his game ( well if I could pass it ) but I am 66 yrs old.
He faded 2nd half as he does every game. Total luxury player we can’t afford to have in this team I am afraid.
We need a proper MR in that midfield, someone who is a leader, who can tackle and i mean tackle ( it seems to be a dying art ) 
Where are the Little’s, Doolans, Stocks in this team. We need to find one in January or we are going down.

Striker situation is even more dire.  Curkur is improving no question but we heed goals and i don’t see him getting many of those. If we get 10 out of him in 40 games at this level I think is being optimistic.

Dodoo sorry his first touch is worse than mine. Much worse. Can he score. No evidence so far he is capable.

Hiwula I think is a player, has pace, has a shot on him, he just needs to use his brain more often.
Makes too many wrong decisions.  But could come good for us. Needs a proper striker playing up front i think to bring out the best of him.
Will Fej be the answer to our prayers? I seriously do not know.

Defence. The problem is it is mostly confidence for me. I would play John when fit instead of Williams.
Agree Rowe is not a natural left back and is wasted in that position.
Is Horton good enough yet, not sure he is.

Anderson it is definitely a confidence thing with him. That head injury and the lack of a seriously decent centre back partner is affecting him imo.
Knowle is a decent player but playing in a losing team is affecting him. I do think he is capable of producing so much more.

Think that’s it. RW has got some serious thinking to do and hard work on the training ground.

But yes we can turn it round but RW needs ( assuming he is still here in Jan )  to sign 3 quality players in that window.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: ravenrover on October 20, 2021, 01:00:35 pm
Is Cuker on a season long loan or just till Jan?
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: Campsall rover on October 20, 2021, 01:03:12 pm
Is Cuker on a season long loan or just till Jan?
Not sure now you mention it.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: MachoMadness on October 20, 2021, 02:27:00 pm
I believe it's a season long loan with a break clause in January, not sure Watford would want to recall him though.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: ravenrover on October 20, 2021, 06:20:20 pm
Could we send him back?
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: eastender on October 22, 2021, 08:29:11 pm
Any one remember this from exactly 3 years ago.  :lol:

(https://i.imgur.com/iWACk8V.png)

Could only happen to us.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: drfchound on October 22, 2021, 08:32:42 pm
It would be nice to have 13 shots in a game, never mind thirteen on target.
I can’t remember when we might have had 32 shots in a game.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: eastender on October 22, 2021, 09:14:50 pm
It would be nice to have 13 shots in a game, never mind thirteen on target.
I can’t remember when we might have had 32 shots in a game.

They only had 3 all game , all on target and all in the onion bag.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: drfchound on October 22, 2021, 09:18:09 pm
It would be nice to have 13 shots in a game, never mind thirteen on target.
I can’t remember when we might have had 32 shots in a game.

They only had 3 all game , all on target and all in the onion bag.




Yep, I remember it, I was there.
I also remember losing 4-0 to Fleetwood and I think they only had four attempts on goal.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on October 23, 2021, 02:39:25 pm
meanwhile in the parallel universe (a.k.a. reality)

 here is the bbc report of the match

"Stuart O'Keefe's fortuitous goal earned Gillingham their first home win in almost two months, as they ground out a 1-0 victory against League One's bottom club Doncaster.

The result moved the Gills three points clear of the bottom four, but Donny remain rooted to the foot of the table after drawing yet another blank in front of goal.

Doncaster should have gone ahead in the fourth minute, however, when Joe Dodoo's pass found its way through for Kyle Knoyle, who could only shoot into the side netting.

Robbie McKenzie almost broke the deadlock for Gillingham when his header from the edge of the area clipped the outside of the post, following Ryan Jackson's long throw.

The Gills were slightly improved after half-time, with Danny Lloyd having a shot shovelled away by Rovers goalkeeper Pontus Dahlberg before Tiago Cukur skimmed an effort just wide for Donny.

The hosts then finally grabbed the winner with 11 minutes left as Vadaine Oliver attacked the near post from Lloyd's corner and his header brushed in off O'Keefe's back.

Match report supplied by PA M"


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58879750

and they say when a team is desperate for a goal they don't care if it goes in off someones backside

at least the ball going in off his back isn't as fluky a going in off the backside ....... photo finish though


please can we have one of those today