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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: anton123 on July 02, 2022, 08:43:54 am
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Only a small ground do u think it will be a sell out guys as me and the lad might go but will be a late decision and pay on gate ?
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Only a small ground do u think it will be a sell out guys as me and the lad might go but will be a late decision and pay on gate ?
Not sure it is pay on the gate. You better check with the ticket office this morning. Don’t know how many tickets have been sold either.
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It was apparently still saying there were tickets yesterday
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https://mobile.twitter.com/thewelfare/status/1543130164913119233?cxt=HHwWgoCxnbGtpuoqAAAA
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What's parking like in and around the ground
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Won't be there today, so any updates would be much appreciated, thanks in advance from a very hot Paphos!
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What's parking like in and around the ground
Unless its changed in the past couple of years, its pretty much street parking only.
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Community centre or street parking
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Won't be there today, so any updates would be much appreciated, thanks in advance from a very hot Paphos!
Radio commentary available via I follow
My apologies that was mistaken information .
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How do you know iFollow are doing a commentary?
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First half team
Our XI to start this afternoon’s game against @thewelfare
1. Jonathan Mitchell
2. Ollie Younger
35. Bobby Faulkner
6. Ro-Shaun Williams
3. Trialist
8. Adam Clayton
31. Liam Ravenhill
10. Tommy Rowe
7. Trialist
17. Reo Griffiths
11. Jon Taylor
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From the free press
Two trialists in the starting XI
Cieran Dunne, who was released by Sunderland in May, is understood to be the left-back on trial.
No word yet on the other trialist in action today. But we do know he’s a winger.
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/live-updates-as-doncaster-rovers-begin-pre-season-campaign-at-armthorpe-welfare-3754098
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Won't be there today, so any updates would be much appreciated, thanks in advance from a very hot Paphos!
It was mistaken information and I apologize and shall try to find the source for future reference and to ignore it .
Radio commentary available via I follow
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Anyone got commentary no sound on mine
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nothing
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Just showing score on mine
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Nothing at all but never expect things to be straight forward.what is the score?
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Nothing at all but never expect things to be straight forward.what is the score?
0-0. Text updates on the DRFC Twitter feed.
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I’m sure for the number 7, the lads are shouting Jack.
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I’m sure for the number 7, the lads are shouting Jack.
What's he look like? Height, hair colour?
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Or could ot be Cack??!!
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I’m sure for the number 7, the lads are shouting Jack.
What's he look like? Height, hair colour?
Definitely Jack. Young looking, slim 6ft, dark hair shaved sides. Right sided forward.
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Making hard work of this.
Taylor has been playing Rugby last 12 months
Been taking conversions 1st half.
6 I think so far and been successful with all of them.
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0-0 at half-time. I know it's only a friendly, but we couldn't possibly fail to beat a 10th tier team, could we?
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We are rusty let’s put it that way.
Work in progress to put it politely.
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This is how we are set to line up for the start of the second half #drfc
12. Louis Jones
2. Ollie Younger
35. Bobby Faulkner
5. Joseph Olowu
3. Trialist
31. Liam Ravenhill
7. Trialist
19. Jack Raper
18. Owen Scattergood
15. Tom Parkinson
9. George Miller
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1-0 Miller header from corner
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1-0 Miller header from corner
And now you're gunna believe us..
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This is how we are set to line up for the start of the second half #drfc
12. Louis Jones
2. Ollie Younger
35. Bobby Faulkner
5. Joseph Olowu
3. Trialist
31. Liam Ravenhill
7. Trialist
19. Jack Raper
18. Owen Scattergood
15. Tom Parkinson
9. George Miller
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Just one change to the previously listed side to start the second half with Reo Griffiths remaining on. Tom Parkinson remains on the bench #drfc
Update on the second half team
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So where the f*ck are Biggins and Molyneux? Don't tell me they're injured as well.
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60' | SUB ROVERS:
ON - Alex Fletcher, Jack Goodman
OFF - Reo Griffiths and Ollie Younger
Well played, lads!
0-1 | #DRFC
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63' | SUB ROVERS:
ON - Charlie Petch
OFF - Bobby Faulkner
Well done, Bobby. What a performance!
0-1 | #DRFC
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2-0 Goodman
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So where the f*ck are Biggins and Molyneux? Don't tell me they're injured as well.
They are not upto speed fitness wise Steve but nearly there.
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Goal - 2-0
Jack Goodman converts George Miller’s cross from close range after Rovers survive a scare at the other end.
That should see them over the line after what’s been a surprisingy competitive match.
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Full time 2-0
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A good run out for a dozen youngsters .
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I sincerely hope we’ve got some quality signings lined up!
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Win 2-0, people moan
If we won 8-0 people would say ‘it’s only Armthorpe’
It’s pre season, minutes in the legs, lots of youngsters used. Onto the next one…
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I sincerely hope we’ve got some quality signings lined up!
I don't think you can judge anything at all by today, just a fitness/bonding exercise.
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I like the look of Miller, looks busy and worked hard and had a bit of quality. Jon Taylor in tomorrow for shooting practice hopefully!
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I sincerely hope we’ve got some quality signings lined up!
Positive as ever Alan... :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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I sincerely hope we’ve got some quality signings lined up!
Get a grip
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2-0
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When RW played Trialists last preseason he got ridiculed but GMC ok he’s got Copps so we will be ok.
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Let's look at it in context. It was only the first pre-season friendly, and Rovers were without Knoyle, Seaman, Anderson, Close, Biggins, and Molyneux, and played the second half with mainly a mixture of youngsters and trialists.
On the positive side, it seems that Faulkner and Miller looked very good.
On the negative side, Armthorpe are a 10th tier side, and apparently should have scored 3 or 4 goals.
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I know it’s only a run out, but you would think great opportunity, for the strikers to get a few goals.
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Jack Goodmayes was really good for me. Constantly busy, kept centre halves busy. Worked his b*llocks off and got a goal can't ask for much more.
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When RW played Trialists last preseason he got ridiculed but GMC ok he’s got Copps so we will be ok.
How many trialists did we play today?
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Could be worse…
Alfreton 0-0 Sheffield Wednesday
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When RW played Trialists last preseason he got ridiculed but GMC ok he’s got Copps so we will be ok.
How many trialists did we play today?
Two. Cieran Dunne at 3 and Jack surname unknown at 7. Like the look of Dunne once he got going, good pace down the line and dangerous delivery from the left.
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When RW played Trialists last preseason he got ridiculed but GMC ok he’s got Copps so we will be ok.
Almost Every club in the country will have trialists in during the summer
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When RW played Trialists last preseason he got ridiculed but GMC ok he’s got Copps so we will be ok.
How many trialists did we play today?
Two. Cieran Dunne at 3 and Jack surname unknown at 7. Like the look of Dunne once he got going, good pace down the line and dangerous delivery from the left.
But can he defend?
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When RW played Trialists last preseason he got ridiculed but GMC ok he’s got Copps so we will be ok.
How many trialists did we play today?
Two. Cieran Dunne at 3 and Jack surname unknown at 7. Like the look of Dunne once he got going, good pace down the line and dangerous delivery from the left.
Yes, Reg, but how good was he at defending? It sounds like we were exposed again.
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When RW played Trialists last preseason he got ridiculed but GMC ok he’s got Copps so we will be ok.
How many trialists did we play today?
Two. Cieran Dunne at 3 and Jack surname unknown at 7. Like the look of Dunne once he got going, good pace down the line and dangerous delivery from the left.
But can he defend?
He’s not the biggest or most muscular, Armthorpe were big and the few times the got the ball in the box we wobbled a bit. Be good to see him again against different opposition.
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When RW played Trialists last preseason he got ridiculed but GMC ok he’s got Copps so we will be ok.
I admire your positivity on this one Steve, but hopefully we’ll still use this coming month to bring some of our targets in so that we’re not over-reliant on trialists.
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I know I keep banging on about it, but I can't see how people can honestly expect us to be promoted with the same terrible defence as last season.
We desperately need to strengthen that area.
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Well, there are always going to be some fans moaning. But it’s a pre-season. Win 10-0 it’s no match. Win 2-0 (omg seasons over already). Does make me laugh
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When RW played Trialists last preseason he got ridiculed but GMC ok he’s got Copps so we will be ok.
How many trialists did we play today?
Two. Cieran Dunne at 3 and Jack surname unknown at 7. Like the look of Dunne once he got going, good pace down the line and dangerous delivery from the left.
Yes he was a winger he’s never played league level and only played wing back not left back. He’ll do for us.
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Well, there are always going to be some fans moaning. But it’s a pre-season. Win 10-0 it’s no match. Win 2-0 (omg seasons over already). Does make me laugh
The result didn’t matter it’s not about the result it’s about quality recruitment. Which we can’t go any further with till we known how Anderson and Knoyle and Okenabirhie are.
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Can all have opinions after today and are entitled to them. Let’s see what transpires Bradford plus only time will tell.I hope for the best. Hope I won’t be disappointed.
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I think I might know the Jack player identity. Not sure though.
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I’m sure for the number 7, the lads are shouting Jack.
Somebody on twitter said number 7 was Jack Degruchy.
A quick google and looks like him. Released by York City.
I rated the LB, reckon he will sign.
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When RW played Trialists last preseason he got ridiculed but GMC ok he’s got Copps so we will be ok.
I admire your positivity on this one Steve, but hopefully we’ll still use this coming month to bring some of our targets in so that we’re not over-reliant on trialists.
Jon we heard before it’s following last year’s recruitment strategy and they will probably be better players.
Give a player an extension fanfare sign players 3 players fanfare scratch around for rest. I hope I’m wrong.
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:thumbsup:
When RW played Trialists last preseason he got ridiculed but GMC ok he’s got Copps so we will be ok.
How many trialists did we play today?
Two. Cieran Dunne at 3 and Jack surname unknown at 7. Like the look of Dunne once he got going, good pace down the line and dangerous delivery from the left.
Yes, Reg, but how good was he at defending? It sounds like we were exposed again.
He didnt have much defending to do.
Only time Armthorpe looked like scoring really was on corners. We are still vulnerable on these even against a 10th tier side.
Williams is awful on these and is constantly caught underneath crosses. He is the worst centre back in the air i have seen at Rovers for a long long time. 1997/98 in fact.
Faulkner showed him how to head a ball.
This lad as Brian ( Selby ) keeps telling us has a big future ahead of him. He was excellent. Best prospect I have seen at Rovers since Ian Snodin was 17/18
Now that’s praise.
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I’m sure for the number 7, the lads are shouting Jack.
Somebody on twitter said number 7 was Jack Degruchy.
A quick google and looks like him. Released by York City.
I rated the LB, reckon he will sign.
Not the Jack I thought then.
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I’m sure for the number 7, the lads are shouting Jack.
Somebody on twitter said number 7 was Jack Degruchy.
A quick google and looks like him. Released by York City.
I rated the LB, reckon he will sign.
Not the Jack I thought then.
Who do you think he is then, don’t be shy.
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Grealish :lol: :lol: :lol:
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This him...
(https://www.yorkcityfootballclub.co.uk/sites/default/files/styles/content_image/public/unknown%201%20york%20city%202021-22.jpg?itok=ev0ASOjs)
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When RW played Trialists last preseason he got ridiculed but GMC ok he’s got Copps so we will be ok.
I admire your positivity on this one Steve, but hopefully we’ll still use this coming month to bring some of our targets in so that we’re not over-reliant on trialists.
Jon we heard before it’s following last year’s recruitment strategy and they will probably be better players.
Give a player an extension fanfare sign players 3 players fanfare scratch around for rest. I hope I’m wrong.
Scratch around for the rest.??
Because we haven’t announced anyone new for a while and it’s not as if the window closes next week is it.???
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About the recruitment Steve!! Let’s wait and see. It’s only 2 weeks old the pre-season. Some people want this some people want that. Some people say the board don’t put money in. Some people say GMC shouldn’t be in charge.
We have a great football club that is ran the right way. Yes we got relegated last season, it happens. I support my club as everyone does, people want things done differently. Be careful what some of you wish for.
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How did Jack do, any good?.
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I’m sure for the number 7, the lads are shouting Jack.
Somebody on twitter said number 7 was Jack Degruchy.
A quick google and looks like him. Released by York City.
I rated the LB, reckon he will sign.
Not the Jack I thought then.
Who do you think he is then, don’t be shy.
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I thought it might be Jack Byrne, also an attacking midfielder.
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About the recruitment Steve!! Let’s wait and see. It’s only 2 weeks old the pre-season. Some people want this some people want that. Some people say the board don’t put money in. Some people say GMC shouldn’t be in charge.
We have a great football club that is ran the right way. Yes we got relegated last season, it happens. I support my club as everyone does, people want things done differently. Be careful what some of you wish for.
Ok I’ll not say another thing about recruitment let’s see who we get and their quality. Let’s see how the injuries progress we will see how good we are when we play Rotherham and then Bradford first game.
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can't see a problem playing trialists at this stage,the problem last year was playing half a team of trialists in the final pre season game, every other team pretty much used the final game to play there best team
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:thumbsup: When RW played Trialists last preseason he got ridiculed but GMC ok he’s got Copps so we will be ok.
How many trialists did we play today?
Two. Cieran Dunne at 3 and Jack surname unknown at 7. Like the look of Dunne once he got going, good pace down the line and dangerous delivery from the left.
Yes, Reg, but how good was he at defending? It sounds like we were exposed again.
He didnt have much defending to do.
Only time Armthorpe looked like scoring really was on corners. We are still vulnerable on these even against a 10th tier side.
Williams is awful on these and is constantly caught underneath crosses. He is the worst centre back in the air i have seen at Rovers for a long long time. 1997/98 in fact.
Faulkner showed him how to head a ball.
This lad as Brian ( Selby ) keeps telling us has a big future ahead of him. He was excellent. Best prospect I have seen at Rovers since Ian Snodin was 17/18
Now that’s praise.
Thanks for that, Camps. I totally agree about Williams; he's dreadful.
It sounds like young Faulkner is very good. Would you play him in our regular back 4 from the off, or do we need to sign another CB?
I think you'll agree that our current defence wouldn't be good enough for promotion.
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I’m sure for the number 7, the lads are shouting Jack.
Somebody on twitter said number 7 was Jack Degruchy.
A quick google and looks like him. Released by York City.
I rated the LB, reckon he will sign.
Not the Jack I thought then.
Who do you think he is then, don’t be shy.
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I thought it might be Jack Byrne, also an attacking midfielder.
Looking at the picture I think Mush is right about Jack Degruchy. I wasn’t overly impressed, a couple of miscontrols and seemed quiet. First game back though and lots of rusty performances. Only looks a young lad so one for the future maybe.
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When RW played Trialists last preseason he got ridiculed but GMC ok he’s got Copps so we will be ok.
I admire your positivity on this one Steve, but hopefully we’ll still use this coming month to bring some of our targets in so that we’re not over-reliant on trialists.
Jon we heard before it’s following last year’s recruitment strategy and they will probably be better players.
Give a player an extension fanfare sign players 3 players fanfare scratch around for rest. I hope I’m wrong.
Hope you’re wrong? I thought you genuinely meant we’ll be okay.
On the wider issue of recruitment, we can’t rush into any judgements on the likes of Dunne based on a game against Armthorpe Welfare. If he continues to do well then maybe he can strengthen the squad, but it would be a big risk to sign somebody to play at left back that’s played so few senior games and even then isn’t recognised in that position. I’m not sure we can afford to take that risk alone. But a left back and Dunne to strengthen the left side may see us in a much better position.
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When RW played Trialists last preseason he got ridiculed but GMC ok he’s got Copps so we will be ok.
I admire your positivity on this one Steve, but hopefully we’ll still use this coming month to bring some of our targets in so that we’re not over-reliant on trialists.
Jon we heard before it’s following last year’s recruitment strategy and they will probably be better players.
Give a player an extension fanfare sign players 3 players fanfare scratch around for rest. I hope I’m wrong.
Hope you’re wrong? I thought you genuinely meant we’ll be okay.
On the wider issue of recruitment, we can’t rush into any judgements on the likes of Dunne based on a game against Armthorpe Welfare. If he continues to do well then maybe he can strengthen the squad, but it would be a big risk to sign somebody to play at left back that’s played so few senior games and even then isn’t recognised in that position. I’m not sure we can afford to take that risk alone. But a left back and Dunne to strengthen the left side may see us in a much better position.
Why not just sign a good, low risk left back? There are loads out there.
Honestly, two months ago I thought we would be nailed on to have a much more positive season in 22/23 than most people expected. I get less confident as the days pass to be honest.
GS saying he we went two up top in the second half because he thought we needed an extra body up there!!! Surely these games are about grinding out patterns of play to work on the shape and style you want to play going into the season, not making it up as you go along tinkering the tactics to out smart a 10th tier side!
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We won the game, hopefully the start of a nice habit. It’s given us chance to have a look at people. We need signings of similar quality to Miller and Molyneux in the other positions if we are going to do well. Decent start.
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:thumbsup: When RW played Trialists last preseason he got ridiculed but GMC ok he’s got Copps so we will be ok.
How many trialists did we play today?
Two. Cieran Dunne at 3 and Jack surname unknown at 7. Like the look of Dunne once he got going, good pace down the line and dangerous delivery from the left.
Yes, Reg, but how good was he at defending? It sounds like we were exposed again.
He didnt have much defending to do.
Only time Armthorpe looked like scoring really was on corners. We are still vulnerable on these even against a 10th tier side.
Williams is awful on these and is constantly caught underneath crosses. He is the worst centre back in the air i have seen at Rovers for a long long time. 1997/98 in fact.
Faulkner showed him how to head a ball.
This lad as Brian ( Selby ) keeps telling us has a big future ahead of him. He was excellent. Best prospect I have seen at Rovers since Ian Snodin was 17/18
Now that’s praise.
Thanks for that, Camps. I totally agree about Williams; he's dreadful.
It sounds like young Faulkner is very good. Would you play him in our regular back 4 from the off, or do we need to sign another CB?
I think you'll agree that our current defence wouldn't be good enough for promotion.
If Anderson isn’t fit then Faulkner and Olowu are the best bet for me as a 2 at centre back.
If Anderson is fit then we need his experience.
To go into the season with an 18 yrs old and a 22 yr old at centre back is a bit of a gamble no matter how good they seem to be.
But Faulkner on the bench for me this season. He seems to have an old head on young shoulders.
Very impressed today again even if it was only Armthorpe we were playing.
He will be a star of the future. Please please stay fit
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Physicality.
An outstanding and obvious weakness of the squad.
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Faulkner has got the ability I’ve no doubt. He has the potential be better than a few of the more experienced centre backs.
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When RW played Trialists last preseason he got ridiculed but GMC ok he’s got Copps so we will be ok.
I admire your positivity on this one Steve, but hopefully we’ll still use this coming month to bring some of our targets in so that we’re not over-reliant on trialists.
Jon we heard before it’s following last year’s recruitment strategy and they will probably be better players.
Give a player an extension fanfare sign players 3 players fanfare scratch around for rest. I hope I’m wrong.
Hope you’re wrong? I thought you genuinely meant we’ll be okay.
On the wider issue of recruitment, we can’t rush into any judgements on the likes of Dunne based on a game against Armthorpe Welfare. If he continues to do well then maybe he can strengthen the squad, but it would be a big risk to sign somebody to play at left back that’s played so few senior games and even then isn’t recognised in that position. I’m not sure we can afford to take that risk alone. But a left back and Dunne to strengthen the left side may see us in a much better position.
Why not just sign a good, low risk left back? There are loads out there.
Honestly, two months ago I thought we would be nailed on to have a much more positive season in 22/23 than most people expected. I get less confident as the days pass to be honest.
GS saying he we went two up top in the second half because he thought we needed an extra body up there!!! Surely these games are about grinding out patterns of play to work on the shape and style you want to play going into the season, not making it up as you go along tinkering the tactics to out smart a 10th tier side!
Yeah that’s strange. We’d be better off losing every preseason game if it was drilling a pattern of play into the lads so we look like a proper team come the real thing.
I’m not so worried about recruitment it’s the ability of GM to be better than a Dickov type manager I.e. pick and 11 and hope they win.
Also if our favoured starting set up means we struggle to get bodies forward against a 10th tier side it looks like we’ve learnt nothing from last season re scoring goals.
Hope these aren’t patterns of what we’ll see in the future
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Its all about match fitness and players getting minutes.
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Its all about match fitness and players getting minutes.
Surely you can get more out of these games than just that!?!
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Before we overreact to one game or one comment in a snap interview, surely alternating formations (as it appears we did) is all part of the preparation. Moreover, that team that started the game won’t be the one that starts on day one. In the coming games we’ll see different teams take to the field and hopefully some more key incomings too. I don't see that as “making it up as you go along.”
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When RW played Trialists last preseason he got ridiculed but GMC ok he’s got Copps so we will be ok.
I admire your positivity on this one Steve, but hopefully we’ll still use this coming month to bring some of our targets in so that we’re not over-reliant on trialists.
Jon we heard before it’s following last year’s recruitment strategy and they will probably be better players.
Give a player an extension fanfare sign players 3 players fanfare scratch around for rest. I hope I’m wrong.
Hope you’re wrong? I thought you genuinely meant we’ll be okay.
On the wider issue of recruitment, we can’t rush into any judgements on the likes of Dunne based on a game against Armthorpe Welfare. If he continues to do well then maybe he can strengthen the squad, but it would be a big risk to sign somebody to play at left back that’s played so few senior games and even then isn’t recognised in that position. I’m not sure we can afford to take that risk alone. But a left back and Dunne to strengthen the left side may see us in a much better position.
Why not just sign a good, low risk left back? There are loads out there.
Honestly, two months ago I thought we would be nailed on to have a much more positive season in 22/23 than most people expected. I get less confident as the days pass to be honest.
GS saying he we went two up top in the second half because he thought we needed an extra body up there!!! Surely these games are about grinding out patterns of play to work on the shape and style you want to play going into the season, not making it up as you go along tinkering the tactics to out smart a 10th tier side!
Yeah that’s strange. We’d be better off losing every preseason game if it was drilling a pattern of play into the lads so we look like a proper team come the real thing.
I’m not so worried about recruitment it’s the ability of GM to be better than a Dickov type manager I.e. pick and 11 and hope they win.
Also if our favoured starting set up means we struggle to get bodies forward against a 10th tier side it looks like we’ve learnt nothing from last season re scoring goals.
Hope these aren’t patterns of what we’ll see in the future
We got plenty of bodies forward today. Just some poor shooting and lacked a bit of creativity.
Taylor could have scored 6 and should have scored 3
Shooting practice for him next week.
A few of them looked rusty but is that a surprise, no it isn’t they have only been doing fitness training so far and probably very little work with a ball up to the last 3/4 days.
Tommy Rowe and Reo Griffiths were looking a little leggy. But this is the 1st pre season game so no worries for me.
It is how the squad is on 30th July that’s important not 2nd July.
Miller I thought was very good. Lively, good awareness, can cross a ball, can head a ball and can shoot.
All good attributes for a front man.
Disappointed we didn’t see Biggins and Molineux but if they are not quite ready then so be it. Hopefully they will be at Nuneaton next Saturday.
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https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/gary-mcsheffrey-gives-update-on-doncaster-rovers-trialists-after-ex-sunderland-defender-checks-in-3754199
Twice now the new media guys called Ravenhill Leon.
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Well Bobby’s mother was proud of her lad and every reason to be, she was stood next to us telling young lads her son was number 35. Big prospect young Faulkner
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This him...
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Yep
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He is a good prospect, I think he will do well with us.
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He is a good prospect, I think he will do well with us.
Hopefully even better when he has the top of his head replaced.
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Are you saying he’s got a fifty pence head? .
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Well Bobby’s mother was proud of her lad and every reason to be, she was stood next to us telling young lads her son was number 35. Big prospect young Faulkner
Not sure how this lad is going to learn much from the senior players. It’s a massively unconvincing defensive unit and we have both no left back at all and a right back who didn’t shoot the lights out last season, out injured for several weeks. In addition the supposed defensive lynchpin appears to be struggling to shake off a long term injury.
Still, a clean sheet today.
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He is a good prospect, I think he will do well with us.
Sammy how do you know he’s a good prospect? Have you seen him play or any knowledge of him before today? Just interested as to how you can know so much about so many players. Is it just reviewing stats or are you watching lots on the development circuit
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Why would York release such a good prospect??
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He is a good prospect, I think he will do well with us.
Sammy how do you know he’s a good prospect? Have you seen him play or any knowledge of him before today? Just interested as to how you can know so much about so many players. Is it just reviewing stats or are you watching lots on the development circuit
I’m talking about Faulkner, don’t know anything about the new kid.
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The No7 (Jack) looked completely out of his depth, which is no surprise if he’s been released by York). Why are we looking at him?
As Camps has already said, Taylor seems to have traded football for Rugby - all his ‘shots’ were way over!
Agree re young Faulkner - looks a prospect. But please don’t tell me big Tom is going to be out. We definitely need his experience at the back.
The rest:
Miller looks a lively addition and I think will be a big improvement up top.
Griffiths needs to see Slimming World - he must be a stone overweight!
We still need a target man - Griffiths isn’t that.
Tommy one or two flashes but a bit rusty (no surprise).
Shame we didn’t see Biggins and Molyneux - anyone know why? They may add a bit of quality?
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The No7 (Jack) looked completely out of his depth, which is no surprise if he’s been released by York). Why are we looking at him?
As Camps has already said, Taylor seems to have traded football for Rugby - all his ‘shots’ were way over!
Agree re young Faulkner - looks a prospect. But please don’t tell me big Tom is going to be out. We definitely need his experience at the back.
The rest:
Miller looks a lively addition and I think will be a big improvement up top.
Griffiths needs to see Slimming World - he must be a stone overweight!
We still need a target man - Griffiths isn’t that.
Tommy one or two flashes but a bit rusty (no surprise).
Shame we didn’t see Biggins and Molyneux - anyone know why? They may add a bit of quality?
As a follower of Reo on Instagram and seeing some of his summer workout videos, if he’s overweight there’s no hope for the rest of us.
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He was blowing out of his backside after about 30 minutes, Gaz! Still, early days.
Not a target man, though.
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The No7 (Jack) looked completely out of his depth, which is no surprise if he’s been released by York). Why are we looking at him?
As Camps has already said, Taylor seems to have traded football for Rugby - all his ‘shots’ were way over!
Agree re young Faulkner - looks a prospect. But please don’t tell me big Tom is going to be out. We definitely need his experience at the back.
The rest:
Miller looks a lively addition and I think will be a big improvement up top.
Griffiths needs to see Slimming World - he must be a stone overweight!
We still need a target man - Griffiths isn’t that.
Tommy one or two flashes but a bit rusty (no surprise).
Shame we didn’t see Biggins and Molyneux - anyone know why? They may add a bit of quality?
Hopefully Reo doesn’t read this forum. Massively personal comment to make.
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Couldn’t make the game. How did Dunne look?
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Couldn’t make the game. How did Dunne look?
The pitch didn't help him but he got forward well. Definitely more attack minded, needed Mitchell screaming at him constantly to get back in to shape.
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Couldn’t make the game. How did Dunne look?
The pitch didn't help him but he got forward well. Definitely more attack minded, needed Mitchell screaming at him constantly to get back in to shape.
Agree with what you say about Dunne although
we don’t know how good at defending he is because he wasn’t really tested.
The hard pitch didn’t help anyone
Took 2 or 3 touches sometimes to get the ball under control.
My memories of the Nuneaton pitch would suggest same again next week.
It was awful when we played them in the Conference some 21 yrs or so years ago.
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Reo has bulked up a bit but not overweight, that’s the idea of pre season games isn’t ? To get game time into legs
I agree however, Reo is not a target man and needs someone up top with him
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I have to say Reo did look a bit heavy.
Whether it is weight or muscle difficult to tell but he looked more like a light heavy weight boxer than a football striker.
The fact is he did look very heavy legged yesterday and When Miller came on 2nd half he made Reo’s sprinting look very sedate.
I am being polite here.
Yes 1st game and I am not making any serious judgment on fitness until the last pre season game.
That’s when we need 99.9% fitness from hopefully at least 90% of the squad.
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Reo definitely isn't overweight, match minutes are definitely different to training. The more match minutes he gets in him the fitter he will get but he will get upto speed.
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Reo never has been a target man, and up to now he hasn't been played as one. I'm not convinced we will play in a way necessitating such a player anyway under McSheffrey.
Makes me laugh also seeing the comments about Taylor needing shooting practice. That has always been the weakest point in his game, he can't finish for toffee. I'm just glad he's fit to play after the 18 months he's had.
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Reo never has been a target man, and up to now he hasn't been played as one. I'm not convinced we will play in a way necessitating such a player anyway under McSheffrey.
Makes me laugh also seeing the comments about Taylor needing shooting practice. That has always been the weakest point in his game, he can't finish for toffee. I'm just glad he's fit to play after the 18 months he's had.
He played left wing/midfield first 30 mins and twin striker with Reo for last 15 mins of 1st half
Went off at half time.
He is rusty but has ability to score 8/10 goals this season.
The pitch didn’t help him but practice on finishing will be a must this next 3 weeks or so.
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Reo never has been a target man, and up to now he hasn't been played as one. I'm not convinced we will play in a way necessitating such a player anyway under McSheffrey.
Makes me laugh also seeing the comments about Taylor needing shooting practice. That has always been the weakest point in his game, he can't finish for toffee. I'm just glad he's fit to play after the 18 months he's had.
He played left wing/midfield first 30 mins and twin striker with Reo for last 15 mins of 1st half
Went off at half time.
He is rusty but has ability to score 8/10 goals this season.
The pitch didn’t help him but practice on finishing will be a must this next 3 weeks or so.
He has only scored double figures once in his career, and that was as part of a Peterborough team which scored 82 goals - joint most in League One that year - playing in a very creative, attacking side.
Taylor will be 30 years old when the season starts, is coming off a very serious long-term injury, and has scored at an average of around 1 in 6 throughout his career. If he somehow plays most of this season's games, that works out to around 7 goals. The only qualifier to that may be that he hasn't played as low as League Two since very early in his career.
I like Tayls, he brings directness and drive to the side. But no amount of finishing practice this summer is going to change the fact that he just isn't a strong goal threat and never will be.
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The squad plus the u18s and the first year u18s not involved yesterday had a full training session at Cantley Park before yesterdays game.
The first year u18s stayed at Cantley to do conditioning gym work while the squad and second year u18s travelled to Armthorpe for the game, Agard and Fej also stayed at Cantley doing Gym work.
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I get the feeling if Fej’s fitness holds and theres no reaction to the original injury he’ll be offered a deal
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Reo never has been a target man, and up to now he hasn't been played as one. I'm not convinced we will play in a way necessitating such a player anyway under McSheffrey.
Makes me laugh also seeing the comments about Taylor needing shooting practice. That has always been the weakest point in his game, he can't finish for toffee. I'm just glad he's fit to play after the 18 months he's had.
He played left wing/midfield first 30 mins and twin striker with Reo for last 15 mins of 1st half
Went off at half time.
He is rusty but has ability to score 8/10 goals this season.
The pitch didn’t help him but practice on finishing will be a must this next 3 weeks or so.
He has only scored double figures once in his career, and that was as part of a Peterborough team which scored 82 goals - joint most in League One that year - playing in a very creative, attacking side.
Taylor will be 30 years old when the season starts, is coming off a very serious long-term injury, and has scored at an average of around 1 in 6 throughout his career. If he somehow plays most of this season's games, that works out to around 7 goals. The only qualifier to that may be that he hasn't played as low as League Two since very early in his career.
I like Tayls, he brings directness and drive to the side. But no amount of finishing practice this summer is going to change the fact that he just isn't a strong goal threat and never will be.
“And never will be”
Sorry Alias you have just contradicted yourself there haven’t you?
You have just posted that he scored double figure goals in one season for Peterborough. I also think he got 8/9 one season for Rotherham.
He hasn’t played in League 2 for some time if ever. Not sure if he had a season with Rotherham at that level some years ago, but to say he won’t score 8/10 goals in league 2 could of course prove to be correct Alias, but to say categorically that he won’t do it is imo a bit silly.
If he plays 40 games ( starts ) then I will back him to get 8 this season. Even allowing for his wayward shooting yesterday.
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Strange that the original diagnosis for Fej was flat feet - really hope he gets his career back on track
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If Fej gets back to his pre injury fitness then we would be foolish not to offer him a contract, we aren’t going to get a potential 15+ goal scorer for nothing
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Reo never has been a target man, and up to now he hasn't been played as one. I'm not convinced we will play in a way necessitating such a player anyway under McSheffrey.
Makes me laugh also seeing the comments about Taylor needing shooting practice. That has always been the weakest point in his game, he can't finish for toffee. I'm just glad he's fit to play after the 18 months he's had.
He played left wing/midfield first 30 mins and twin striker with Reo for last 15 mins of 1st half
Went off at half time.
He is rusty but has ability to score 8/10 goals this season.
The pitch didn’t help him but practice on finishing will be a must this next 3 weeks or so.
He has only scored double figures once in his career, and that was as part of a Peterborough team which scored 82 goals - joint most in League One that year - playing in a very creative, attacking side.
Taylor will be 30 years old when the season starts, is coming off a very serious long-term injury, and has scored at an average of around 1 in 6 throughout his career. If he somehow plays most of this season's games, that works out to around 7 goals. The only qualifier to that may be that he hasn't played as low as League Two since very early in his career.
I like Tayls, he brings directness and drive to the side. But no amount of finishing practice this summer is going to change the fact that he just isn't a strong goal threat and never will be.
“And never will be”
Sorry Alias you have just contradicted yourself there haven’t you?
You have just posted that he scored double figure goals in one season for Peterborough. I also think he got 8/9 one season for Rotherham.
He hasn’t played in League 2 for some time if ever. Not sure if he had a season with Rotherham at that level some years ago, but to say he won’t score 8/10 goals in league 2 could of course prove to be correct Alias, but to say categorically that he won’t do it is imo a bit silly.
If he plays 40 games ( starts ) then I will back him to get 8 this season. Even allowing for his wayward shooting yesterday.
He played in League Two in his first couple of seasons as a senior pro, at Shrewsbury. When they won promotion in 2012, he didn't score a single goal despite playing in 36 games.
Tayls also scored exactly 4 league goals in each of his three seasons at Rotherham, despite playing 40+ games in two of those seasons. When we signed him, I spoke to some Rotherham fans for ITEN and their report was that he'd be popular because he'd run and run all day, but don't expect any end product from him because he can't finish and he doesn't score enough goals. That proved to be true when he played for us, he often got into the box but just wouldn't finish chances - he's missed some absolute glaring sitters for us and it sounds like he was wayward with his shooting again yesterday.
The fact is that Taylor doesn't score many goals despite being a forward/winger, and if he plays the 40 games this season that will probably be required for him to reach that goal tally you're touting Camps, it will be a very impressive feat considering his recent injury history. We can't be expecting success in 2022/23 if Taylor is going to be one of our main attacking threats.
Again, I like him but his strengths are not in front of goal.
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Reo never has been a target man, and up to now he hasn't been played as one. I'm not convinced we will play in a way necessitating such a player anyway under McSheffrey.
Makes me laugh also seeing the comments about Taylor needing shooting practice. That has always been the weakest point in his game, he can't finish for toffee. I'm just glad he's fit to play after the 18 months he's had.
He played left wing/midfield first 30 mins and twin striker with Reo for last 15 mins of 1st half
Went off at half time.
He is rusty but has ability to score 8/10 goals this season.
The pitch didn’t help him but practice on finishing will be a must this next 3 weeks or so.
He has only scored double figures once in his career, and that was as part of a Peterborough team which scored 82 goals - joint most in League One that year - playing in a very creative, attacking side.
Taylor will be 30 years old when the season starts, is coming off a very serious long-term injury, and has scored at an average of around 1 in 6 throughout his career. If he somehow plays most of this season's games, that works out to around 7 goals. The only qualifier to that may be that he hasn't played as low as League Two since very early in his career.
I like Tayls, he brings directness and drive to the side. But no amount of finishing practice this summer is going to change the fact that he just isn't a strong goal threat and never will be.
“And never will be”
Sorry Alias you have just contradicted yourself there haven’t you?
You have just posted that he scored double figure goals in one season for Peterborough. I also think he got 8/9 one season for Rotherham.
He hasn’t played in League 2 for some time if ever. Not sure if he had a season with Rotherham at that level some years ago, but to say he won’t score 8/10 goals in league 2 could of course prove to be correct Alias, but to say categorically that he won’t do it is imo a bit silly.
If he plays 40 games ( starts ) then I will back him to get 8 this season. Even allowing for his wayward shooting yesterday.
He played in League Two in his first couple of seasons as a senior pro, at Shrewsbury. When they won promotion in 2012, he didn't score a single goal despite playing in 36 games.
Tayls also scored exactly 4 league goals in each of his three seasons at Rotherham, despite playing 40+ games in two of those seasons. When we signed him, I spoke to some Rotherham fans for ITEN and their report was that he'd be popular because he'd run and run all day, but don't expect any end product from him because he can't finish and he doesn't score enough goals. That proved to be true when he played for us, he often got into the box but just wouldn't finish chances - he's missed some absolute glaring sitters for us and it sounds like he was wayward with his shooting again yesterday.
The fact is that Taylor doesn't score many goals despite being a forward/winger, and if he plays the 40 games this season that will probably be required for him to reach that goal tally you're touting Camps, it will be a very impressive feat considering his recent injury history. We can't be expecting success in 2022/23 if Taylor is going to be one of our main attacking threats.
Again, I like him but his strengths are not in front of goal.
I accept what you say. His goal scoring record is not great.
It was just the words you used “and never will be” were a bit over the top Alias. No problem :)
The big problem is getting him on the field for 40 games in a season.
He will be an attacking threat though Alias if he stays fit. Assists will be a plenty in league 2 that I am very confident of.
How many goals he will get. Well that’s up for debate I accept.
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If we’ve signed Molyneux to play right wing, then I imagine Taylor will be his back up.
Molyneux - 43 games last season
Taylor - 3 games last season
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If we’ve signed Molyneux to play right wing, then I imagine Taylor will be his back up.
Molyneux - 43 games last season
Taylor - 3 games last season
Taylor can play left or right. Molyneux can also and he can play just behind the striker as a offensive midfielder.
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If we’ve signed Molyneux to play right wing, then I imagine Taylor will be his back up.
Molyneux - 43 games last season
Taylor - 3 games last season
Taylor can play left or right. Molyneux can also and he can play just behind the striker as a offensive midfielder.
I like the sound of that.
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I agree with RA about Taylor, he loses his head in front of goal, and it all becomes a bit rash from him - good finishers relax in front of goal, others get too excited.
I also agree about Reo, he is very similar to Fej, they are not back to goal men. Slide them in, or give them the ball in the box.
The winger situation sounds like when we first got back into the league, wingers switching throughout the game.
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That full kit looks great !
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That full kit looks great !
Yes it is a proper Rovers kit. Bought mine and Grandsons yesterday morning.
Like the white shorts and socks with red trim in the socks also.
My favoured strip this one as it is.
Great work Rovers. They will sell plenty I am sure.
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If we’ve signed Molyneux to play right wing, then I imagine Taylor will be his back up.
Molyneux - 43 games last season
Taylor - 3 games last season
Taylor can play left or right. Molyneux can also and he can play just behind the striker as a offensive midfielder.
I’m not sure how comfortable Taylor is playing on the left. Not sure he’s played there much (if at all?) for us.
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If we’ve signed Molyneux to play right wing, then I imagine Taylor will be his back up.
Molyneux - 43 games last season
Taylor - 3 games last season
Taylor can play left or right. Molyneux can also and he can play just behind the striker as a offensive midfielder.
Played ok yesterday because kept cutting in on his right foot and getting shots off. He had more shots 2/3 times as many as anyone else.
Played quite a few games in the league on the left early in his Rovers career and several in the Micky mouse cup matches when he played.
Quite like him rotating left and right and if Molyneux can do the same that would cause problems for full backs. Gives us options to change things if a full back has got one or both of them in his pocket.
We need plan A, B & C unless plan A works 100% of the time in 100% of the matches.
I’m not sure how comfortable Taylor is playing on the left. Not sure he’s played there much (if at all?) for us.
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Above post tagged on to one before. Mistake. Not writing it out again. :facepalm:
Starts with “ played ok yesterday”
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Could be worse…
Alfreton 0-0 Sheffield Wednesday
i checked out the Wendies team although they did an "all change second half "they had proper players playing --whilst Alfreton had that grappling centre forward Matt Rhead (X Lincoln wrestler) playing center half
wendies version of the match
https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/season-underway-and-a-reyt-lovely-day-out-sheffield-wednesday-get-miles-in-the-legs-at-alfreton-town-3754151
alfreton version
https://www.alfretontownfootballclub.com/news/match-report--alfreton-town-00-sheffield-wednesday-2711942.html
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Physicality.
An outstanding and obvious weakness of the squad.
Thats been a problem for so long now. Last season we got bullied week in week out, too many lightweight players. Agree with the above we need defensive reinforcements and a defensive minded/dominant midfielder.
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When Fejiri played out wide was he on the left or right? Can’t remember what foot he is.
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Could be worse…
Alfreton 0-0 Sheffield Wednesday
Better than the last time they played them in a friendly in 2011 when they lost 14-0.
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Fej usually strayed out to the left.
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If fit i would have Taylor on the right, Molyneux on the left, let’s have some attacking, entertaining football.
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If fit i would have Taylor on the right, Molyneux on the left, let’s have some attacking, entertaining football.
Molyneux hasn't ever really played on the left before and the best part of his game is cutting in on his left from that right wing. He's more an inside forward than a winger.
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I just think get some width and go for it. I’m sure he is intelligent enough to adapt. Get some crosses in the box from wide.
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Could have a fluid attacking midfield 3 of Rowe Molyneux Taylor behind the striker as each can play 2 different positions.
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I just think get some width and go for it. I’m sure he is intelligent enough to adapt. Get some crosses in the box from wide.
Then bring in someone where crossing is historically his game, like Ash Hunter, not someone who's never played that role. :laugh:
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Personally want to see 2 central strikers this season. So that leaves one of Rowe, LM or Taylor on the bench.
Can see GM going 433 like he tried last season but we just end up having 1 up and not looking a threat. Unless we are going to be able to sustain pressure long enough to actually make it a 3 up top then just go 442 imo. Keep it simple everyone knows where they stand and gives plenty of out balls into space for strikers which looks like it'll suit Miller.
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I just think get some width and go for it. I’m sure he is intelligent enough to adapt. Get some crosses in the box from wide.
Then bring in someone where crossing is historically his game, like Ash Hunter, not someone who's never played that role. :laugh:
Are you his relative, Donny?. :lol:
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I just think get some width and go for it. I’m sure he is intelligent enough to adapt. Get some crosses in the box from wide.
Then bring in someone where crossing is historically his game, like Ash Hunter, not someone who's never played that role. :laugh:
Are you his relative, Donny?. :lol:
Which? TBF I'm not related to either! I just find building a football team is a simple thing made not simple when people try to put square shapes in round holes, like when Chelsea signed Lukaku.
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We haven’t got players who can put the ball into the box from wide positions and we haven’t got players who can finish these balls. This you would imagine would be why we won’t be playing anything like that formation.
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Snag was Sedwards he also tried to play 3 at the back which didn't seem to go very well with the players we had, and we've still got them for this season
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Yeah 3 at the back could look good for us on paper but needs proper coaching to get right. Trying it midseason was always going to be a big ask.
For GM i'd maintain when in doubt, or not really knowing what your doing, go 442 keep it simple. Every player knows their role and it can balance nicely between defending in numbers and having out balls.
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I just think get some width and go for it. I’m sure he is intelligent enough to adapt. Get some crosses in the box from wide.
Then bring in someone where crossing is historically his game, like Ash Hunter, not someone who's never played that role. :laugh:
Are you his relative, Donny?. :lol:
Which? TBF I'm not related to either! I just find building a football team is a simple thing made not simple when people try to put square shapes in round holes, like when Chelsea signed Lukaku.
Only a joke mate, just because you’ve mentioned Hunter a few times. Sounds like you rate him highly. I don’t know of him, who does he play for?.
I’m just really old fashioned , I love wingers playing on the side of their natural foot. You’re right about square pegs though .
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Some of the ribbing that Taylor has got from people watching him at Armthorpe is very short sighted,the guy has had a dreadful 18 months and hopefully can get back to something like his old self, I don't mind him missing a few chances in the first pre season game, the fact he gets into the positions can only be a good thing for when he has some fitness into his legs.
Massive miss for us last season, could have a really big say in this league.
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He needs to build confidence, fitness, strength and get his Coordination back to how it was. A long process for him .
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Some of the ribbing that Taylor has got from people watching him at Armthorpe is very short sighted,the guy has had a dreadful 18 months and hopefully can get back to something like his old self, I don't mind him missing a few chances in the first pre season game, the fact he gets into the positions can only be a good thing for when he has some fitness into his legs.
Massive miss for us last season, could have a really big say in this league.
You maybe referring to me as one of those posters.
Well it wasn’t ribbing him just commenting on the facts of the game. Yes he missed the target with his shooting but at least he was shooting. If you don’t you don’t score. So credit to him.
The fact is he is well short of match fitness of course and that is to be expected as he p,aged only 2 games I think last season ( stand to be corrected if that’s incorrect )
I like Jon Taylor and when he gets up to speed he will be a huge player for us this season.
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I just think get some width and go for it. I’m sure he is intelligent enough to adapt. Get some crosses in the box from wide.
Then bring in someone where crossing is historically his game, like Ash Hunter, not someone who's never played that role. :laugh:
Are you his relative, Donny?. :lol:
Which? TBF I'm not related to either! I just find building a football team is a simple thing made not simple when people try to put square shapes in round holes, like when Chelsea signed Lukaku.
Only a joke mate, just because you’ve mentioned Hunter a few times. Sounds like you rate him highly. I don’t know of him, who does he play for?.
I’m just really old fashioned , I love wingers playing on the side of their natural foot. You’re right about square pegs though .
It is curious that you can consistently name obscure nobody footballers from far flung leagues and countries, yet a well known player who has played over 200 games in Leagues One and Two in the last decade, often including against Rovers, is someone you aren't aware of.
The way the game is played nowadays also, it is rare for teams to play with wingers operating on the side of their strong foot. The days of just running to the byline because you're faster than the full-back and crossing it in are over. It is much better to face up a defender and get him onto his weak foot, or pull a defensive line out of position by cutting across to the inside, especially with the way that full-backs have become much more adept technically as ball-players in the last 20 years.
If Ryan Giggs came through the youth ranks today, he would play on the right and David Beckham would play on the left. It's curious, but times change as the game develops and different tactical and individual styles take hold.
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We have to remember that 5 subs can be used this season, I would expect a lot of rotation happening so players being on the bench isn’t going to be an issue, I’m expecting certain players to be asked to bust a guy for 60 mins and be replaced.
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I just think get some width and go for it. I’m sure he is intelligent enough to adapt. Get some crosses in the box from wide.
Then bring in someone where crossing is historically his game, like Ash Hunter, not someone who's never played that role. :laugh:
Are you his relative, Donny?. :lol:
Which? TBF I'm not related to either! I just find building a football team is a simple thing made not simple when people try to put square shapes in round holes, like when Chelsea signed Lukaku.
Only a joke mate, just because you’ve mentioned Hunter a few times. Sounds like you rate him highly. I don’t know of him, who does he play for?.
I’m just really old fashioned , I love wingers playing on the side of their natural foot. You’re right about square pegs though .
It is curious that you can consistently name obscure nobody footballers from far flung leagues and countries, yet a well known player who has played over 200 games in Leagues One and Two in the last decade, often including against Rovers, is someone you aren't aware of.
The way the game is played nowadays also, it is rare for teams to play with wingers operating on the side of their strong foot. The days of just running to the byline because you're faster than the full-back and crossing it in are over. It is much better to face up a defender and get him onto his weak foot, or pull a defensive line out of position by cutting across to the inside, especially with the way that full-backs have become much more adept technically as ball-players in the last 20 years.
If Ryan Giggs came through the youth ranks today, he would play on the right and David Beckham would play on the left. It's curious, but times change as the game develops and different tactical and individual styles take hold.
I’ve not noticed him, nothing curious about that really. Yes it’s the way football is now. Arjen Robben was the first I remember cutting inside from wide. I do think the old style wingers will make a comeback. Clubs like players to cut inside as it gives them extra in the midfield . It’s ideal if you have a winger that can go either way. Not many of those around.
Cutting inside allows the winger to be more of a goal threat. Whereas the old way, it was about crossing a ball by getting the edge on your immediate opponent. It does create uncertainty in defences, the winger cutting inside. Does the defender come out of position to face up the challenge, or drop off and fill the gaps they can go into.
It would be good if you had a crosser of the ball on one wing, the other cutting in and being a threat on goal.
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If we’ve signed Molyneux to play right wing, then I imagine Taylor will be his back up.
Molyneux - 43 games last season
Taylor - 3 games last season
Taylor can play left or right. Molyneux can also and he can play just behind the striker as a offensive midfielder.
I’m not sure how comfortable Taylor is playing on the left. Not sure he’s played there much (if at all?) for us.
Agreed on this.
I have hardly seen Taylor use his left foot so although he is very quick he isn’t going to be getting to the byline playing on the left and putting quality crosses into the box like he can do on the right.
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Based on his highlights Miller actually looks half decent in the air
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Struggling to think of how we’d fit Taylor and Molyneux in the team unless we played 4-2-3-1 or 3-5-2 with Molyneux in the middle behind the striker(s)
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Not to put on here obviously, has anybody identified the other trialists?.
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It's in the dfp.
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/adam-clayton-namechecks-another-doncaster-rovers-trialist-after-he-impresses-on-trial-3754335
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Struggling to think of how we’d fit Taylor and Molyneux in the team unless we played 4-2-3-1 or 3-5-2 with Molyneux in the middle behind the striker(s)
Play them both as the wide players I suppose. With 2 up top so 4-4-2
Clayton and Biggins or Rowe as centre midfielders.
I don’t think that’s how he will play though. Could be 3-5-2 or 5-3-2 which is the same. Wing backs.
Or 4-1-4-1 or 4-1-3-2 or 4-2-3-1
Yes any or a mixture of those. I think we will be quite fluid really. We shouldn’t get obsessed with formations.
The players need to know their jobs and what their role is. Whether timid or fluid.
As SOD said the players need to think for themselves when in a game. Take responsibility.
Anderson, Clayton, Rowe, Taylor are huge players for us this season as the senior men and they must all show leadership.
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It's in the dfp.
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/adam-clayton-namechecks-another-doncaster-rovers-trialist-after-he-impresses-on-trial-3754335
Thanks, northernsoul.
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Struggling to think of how we’d fit Taylor and Molyneux in the team unless we played 4-2-3-1 or 3-5-2 with Molyneux in the middle behind the striker(s)
Play them both as the wide players I suppose. With 2 up top so 4-4-2
Clayton and Biggins or Rowe as centre midfielders.
I don’t think that’s how he will play though. Could be 3-5-2 or 5-3-2 which is the same. Wing backs.
Or 4-1-4-1 or 4-1-3-2 or 4-2-3-1
Yes any or a mixture of those. I think we will be quite fluid really. We shouldn’t get obsessed with formations.
The players need to know their jobs and what their role is. Whether timid or fluid.
As SOD said the players need to think for themselves when in a game. Take responsibility.
Anderson, Clayton, Rowe, Taylor are huge players for us this season as the senior men and they must all show leadership.
If Close is fit he has to play. He’s probably our best player.
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Maybe, on paper, at least. I don’t think we’ve seen enough to judge Close, yet.
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Maybe, on paper, at least. I don’t think we’ve seen enough to judge Close, yet.
He’s a certain starter, if fit.
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I agree Gaz, but I’m reserving judgement on him as we’ve not seen him yet, this pre-season, and we don’t know what his conditioning (physical or mental) is. That’s all I’m saying.
I don’t need to remind anyone of how many ‘quality’ players we didn’t have available last season, hence my trepidation!
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Just seen that GMc is giving Ravenhill a lot of praise from Saturday but not noticed any mention on here from those that went. Would be great if he has made a big step forward from last year.
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Struggling to think of how we’d fit Taylor and Molyneux in the team unless we played 4-2-3-1 or 3-5-2 with Molyneux in the middle behind the striker(s)
Play them both as the wide players I suppose. With 2 up top so 4-4-2
Clayton and Biggins or Rowe as centre midfielders.
I don’t think that’s how he will play though. Could be 3-5-2 or 5-3-2 which is the same. Wing backs.
Or 4-1-4-1 or 4-1-3-2 or 4-2-3-1
Yes any or a mixture of those. I think we will be quite fluid really. We shouldn’t get obsessed with formations.
The players need to know their jobs and what their role is. Whether timid or fluid.
As SOD said the players need to think for themselves when in a game. Take responsibility.
Anderson, Clayton, Rowe, Taylor are huge players for us this season as the senior men and they must all show leadership.
If Close is fit he has to play. He’s probably our best player.
Yes I agree with you. I have been one of his biggest supporters on this forum.
I didn’t mention Close in my previous post because he won’t be playing it would seem at the start of the season.
If we have a full compliment of midfielders and wide players fit and available then GM has some tough decisions to make as to what his best midfield trio or quartet will be. Maybe he will play 5 midfielders with 1 up front. Then his decision will be easier.
Personally I would like to see 2 front players this season in most games. Don’t think Griffiths, Miller or Agard are suited to the lone striker role.
It would just be great to have a relatively injury free season and then GM has options.
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Just seen that GMc is giving Ravenhill a lot of praise from Saturday but not noticed any mention on here from those that went. Would be great if he has made a big step forward from last year.
Yes he had a decent game. Very busy 1st half and was one of our better players on the day.
He still looks 15 yrs old and not much on him.
Not sure his physique would mean he would cope with the physicality of League 2 football.
He needs to bulk up a bit i think if he is going to make an EFL player.
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Never even noticed him first half, as it was all a bit messy and a scrap. GM is welcome to his opinion, but he didn’t make an impression on me. The eye opener was Faulkner, until Miller came on!
Very disappointed that we didn’t see the other new lads, Biggins and Molyneux, as I was interested to see what difference they’d make. Talking to a few there, on Saturday, they were of the same opinion.
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He might go with wing backs. Play a solid three at the back(if we’ve got one!). Knoyle down the right, new left back other side.
One holding midfielder with Tommy Rowe in there as well, plus either Taylor just behind with Molyneux playing off a striker, or Molyneux the man behind and the other way around.
We are just missing a few signings to add to what we have, it’s important any coming in are good quality.
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I may be wrong but a midfield combo of Clayton, Close and Biggins could be the real engine room, with Clayton predominately in the anchor role with Close being very busy linking things up finding spaces and threading passes, whilst Biggins sounds more like a ball carrier who can punch holes in defences, creating space for others.
If it is a midfield 3 then we could seeca forward line of Molyneux, Griffiths and Miller. This ofcourse could be backed up with Rowe in either a no 10 role or left side midfield and Taylor competing with Molyneux coming in from the right.
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https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/gary-mcsheffrey-outlines-how-he-wants-doncaster-rovers-to-play-next-season-3755157
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I may be wrong but a midfield combo of Clayton, Close and Biggins could be the real engine room, with Clayton predominately in the anchor role with Close being very busy linking things up finding spaces and threading passes, whilst Biggins sounds more like a ball carrier who can punch holes in defences, creating space for others.
If it is a midfield 3 then we could seeca forward line of Molyneux, Griffiths and Miller. This ofcourse could be backed up with Rowe in either a no 10 role or left side midfield and Taylor competing with Molyneux coming in from the right.
He could go with Tommy Rowe at left back and play that combination. Personally think we can get more from Tommy centrally. We’ve got a few more options, that’s positive after last season.
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IMO if you play 442 with Taylor and Molyneux you'd be too open. I'd play Rowe wide left of the 4 so he can tuck in if needed then it's between Molyneux and Taylor for the right right spot.
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We have to start thinking in terms of having a first team of 16 players, not 11. The new subs rule means our competitors will be taking full advantage of this.
We need at least 3 / 4 more signings and they need to be good ones.
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I may be wrong but a midfield combo of Clayton, Close and Biggins could be the real engine room, with Clayton predominately in the anchor role with Close being very busy linking things up finding spaces and threading passes, whilst Biggins sounds more like a ball carrier who can punch holes in defences, creating space for others.
If it is a midfield 3 then we could seeca forward line of Molyneux, Griffiths and Miller. This ofcourse could be backed up with Rowe in either a no 10 role or left side midfield and Taylor competing with Molyneux coming in from the right.
Yep don't mind this. 433 with Close Biggins/Clayton and Rowe with Molyneux Griff and Miller in a front 3, can easily turn into a 442 with rowe taking up left mid position. Just gotta be fluid with it. Can go to and from 442 & 433.
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I may be wrong but a midfield combo of Clayton, Close and Biggins could be the real engine room, with Clayton predominately in the anchor role with Close being very busy linking things up finding spaces and threading passes, whilst Biggins sounds more like a ball carrier who can punch holes in defences, creating space for others.
If it is a midfield 3 then we could seeca forward line of Molyneux, Griffiths and Miller. This ofcourse could be backed up with Rowe in either a no 10 role or left side midfield and Taylor competing with Molyneux coming in from the right.
Yep don't mind this. 433 with Close Biggins/Clayton and Rowe with Molyneux Griff and Miller in a front 3, can easily turn into a 442 with rowe taking up left mid position. Just gotta be fluid with it. Can go to and from 442 & 433.
Nowhere near fast enough, no where near physical enough. 3 small, technical players who the opposition would run through.
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I may be wrong but a midfield combo of Clayton, Close and Biggins could be the real engine room, with Clayton predominately in the anchor role with Close being very busy linking things up finding spaces and threading passes, whilst Biggins sounds more like a ball carrier who can punch holes in defences, creating space for others.
If it is a midfield 3 then we could seeca forward line of Molyneux, Griffiths and Miller. This ofcourse could be backed up with Rowe in either a no 10 role or left side midfield and Taylor competing with Molyneux coming in from the right.
Yep don't mind this. 433 with Close Biggins/Clayton and Rowe with Molyneux Griff and Miller in a front 3, can easily turn into a 442 with rowe taking up left mid position. Just gotta be fluid with it. Can go to and from 442 & 433.
Nowhere near fast enough, no where near physical enough. 3 small, technical players who the opposition would run through.
I tend to agree with you there. Also, Griffiths hasn't proved himself yet to be regarded as a possible regular starter.
I still think we need another striker signing on.
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I may be wrong but a midfield combo of Clayton, Close and Biggins could be the real engine room, with Clayton predominately in the anchor role with Close being very busy linking things up finding spaces and threading passes, whilst Biggins sounds more like a ball carrier who can punch holes in defences, creating space for others.
If it is a midfield 3 then we could seeca forward line of Molyneux, Griffiths and Miller. This ofcourse could be backed up with Rowe in either a no 10 role or left side midfield and Taylor competing with Molyneux coming in from the right.
Yep don't mind this. 433 with Close Biggins/Clayton and Rowe with Molyneux Griff and Miller in a front 3, can easily turn into a 442 with rowe taking up left mid position. Just gotta be fluid with it. Can go to and from 442 & 433.
Nowhere near fast enough, no where near physical enough. 3 small, technical players who the opposition would run through.
I wouldn’t describe Clayton as a small technical player. He may not be 6ft+ but he’s tough and battle hardened and I doubt anyone will run through him. Point taken that he won’t cover the ground he maybe once did, though. I’d like to see a midfielder come in that likes a tackle and can get around the pitch.
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Ravenhill was very good in the second half but (and no disrespect) it was against Armthorpe Welfare, he didn’t stand out in the first half but then again nobody did