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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: muff licker on June 12, 2009, 12:06:03 pm
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This is front page news today and i may cause split views here, but here goes.
The guy has been found guilty of numerous offences to do with indecent pictures of youngsters and has also been charge with one of the most serious offences a peadophile can be charged with.
What does he get sex offenders register for 7 years and a SUSPENDED jail sentence, now i may be old fashioned but where the fcuk does that punish that dirty bas**rd.
On top of that, his address was 'leaked' and last night some Vigilantes went and torched his home, now lucky for him(and unlucky for all the kids he has ever touched/taken pictures of) he was out, BUT the Police have moved him to a 'safe' house for his own good.
It makes me angry about how the Police protect these sort of people or give them new identities(the 2 lads who killed James Bulger for example) when they should be left to face what ever happens to them, after all they deserve whatever they are going to get.
Imagine how the kids afffected will feel once they are a bit older and if they remember things that have been done to them, what sort of life they will lead....i mean will the government give them lots of help and new lives to move on, will they hell.
Sorry if i have ranted on but it just makes me sick with how these deranged and evil bas**rds are treated once they have been charged.
http://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/free/Sex-offender39s-home-targeted-by.5361376.jp
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Was waiting for this to happen.
Free Press release info on guys street and bam vigilantes go there and torch his house.
Now he is being protected by the police.
It is hard to say what is best course of action.
Obviously some people will take it upon themseleves to teach this guy a lesson for his despicable acts and some people will agree with that.
Others will be all liberal and say that he needs protection.
Maybe he would have been better being sent to prison, though he would have endured a kicking there too.
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Taking my emotion out of it...it seems odd that a man charged with possessing 1113 images of chold pornography and 16 counts of making indecent images of a child was only give a 16 week suspended sentence. I wonder what facts the judge took into account when making his decision?
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That why i think this country is f**ked bring back the death penalty i say kill the f**kers what do sick acts. Now thats a job i could do.
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podrover73 wrote:
Was waiting for this to happen.
Free Press release info on guys street and bam vigilantes go there and torch his house.
Now he is being protected by the police.
It is hard to say what is best course of action.
Obviously some people will take it upon themseleves to teach this guy a lesson for his despicable acts and some people will agree with that.
Others will be all liberal and say that he needs protection.
Maybe he would have been better being sent to prison, though he would have endured a kicking there too.
And got everything he deserves in Prison, being a convicted Peadophile is the worst charge in prison, and he would have been Public Enemy No1 - but let him be then he can feel the fear that he has put others through. As for the Address, im sure it would have been found out sooner or later, there are ways and means to do this.
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muff licker wrote:
And got everything he deserves in Prison, being a convicted Peadophile is the worst charge in prison, and he would have been Public Enemy No1 - but let him be then he can feel the fear that he has put others through. As for the Address, im sure it would have been found out sooner or later, there are ways and means to do this.
Thing is, he would have been protected in gaol as well. There must have been a valid reason why the judge suspended the sentence surely?
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SpaceShowerTeleVision wrote:
muff licker wrote:
And got everything he deserves in Prison, being a convicted Peadophile is the worst charge in prison, and he would have been Public Enemy No1 - but let him be then he can feel the fear that he has put others through. As for the Address, im sure it would have been found out sooner or later, there are ways and means to do this.
Thing is, he would have been protected in gaol as well. There must have been a valid reason why the judge suspended the sentence surely?
As he isnt as high profile as say Ian Huntley, he wouldn't have been that protected, plus the Prison Service is bent as hell, and if any of the lags wanted a piece of him they could easily get to him, as for a valid reason why he NEVER went to prison, there isn't one. He got found guilty and placed on the SO register, and should have been sent away.
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muff licker wrote:
As he isnt as high profile as say Ian Huntley, he wouldn't have been that protected, plus the Prison Service is bent as hell, and if any of the lags wanted a piece of him they could easily get to him, as for a valid reason why he NEVER went to prison, there isn't one. He got found guilty and placed on the SO register, and should have been sent away.
:) Media profile has nothing to do with risk assessments. HMPS is not 'bent as hell' as you put it, sure there are some staff who fall prey to manipulation and conditioning by prisoners (they are working with bad bástards afterall!), but the vast majority are good people, who do a job that most people couldn't, for very little reward.
Sure prisoners have ways and means (they are bad bástards afterall) of getting to others, I was just making the point that even in prison he may have been give protection as he would be a vulnerable prisoner. By the way, 'lags', takes me back to Porridge, what a great 70's TV series!!!
I am suprised by the sentence given the reported crime Muff, just wondered what the judge took into account when deciding to suspend a sentence :)
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muff licker wrote:
It makes me angry about how the Police protect these sort of people or give them new identities(the 2 lads who killed James Bulger for example) when they should be left to face what ever happens to them, after all they deserve whatever they are going to get.
As vile as this fella's crimes are, we do live in a civilised society & we have a duty of care.
I don't personally agree with the protection, they should face up to their peers, especially when the courts tend to be too soft, but i understand why they're protected.
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SpaceShowerTeleVision wrote:
Taking my emotion out of it...it seems odd that a man charged with possessing 1113 images of chold pornography and 16 counts of making indecent images of a child was only give a 16 week suspended sentence. I wonder what facts the judge took into account when making his decision?
Thats the British Justice system for you. Pathetic.
ANYONE found guilty of sexual offences / Peadophilia should have their sexual organs removed as an absolute minimum.
I know where this chap lives, its one street away from me, If I ever see him as much as say hello to either of my little girls, I wont be responsible for my actions. Thing is, Id probably end up in prison, whilst that scum would still be free to walk the streets.
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I know where this chap lives, its one street away from me,
Thought you lived just off Askern road, not on Asquith road? Opposite side off Bentley Asquith :laugh:
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Carling Rover wrote:
I know where this chap lives, its one street away from me,
Thought you lived just off Askern road, not on Asquith road? Opposite side off Bentley Asquith :laugh:
I thought they were on about the one who lives on Fisher Street!
But, I know the chap they mean if its Asquith Rd as well, used to mope about outside the sure start centre on The Avenue.
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Thinwhiteduke wrote:
ANYONE found guilty of sexual offences / Peadophilia should have their sexual organs removed as an absolute minimum.
Trouble is TWD, removing genitals doesnt stop sex offending. A sex offence can be committed with a fist, a knife, a screwdriver, a tree branch...just about anything in fact. It's not behavioural, its the thinking patterns that are wired up wrong.
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Rigoglioso wrote:
All paedophiles should be named and shamed - including where they live and what offences they have been charged with. If people want to then attack the paedo, then so be it!
I dont want to get onto the whole issue of capital punishment, lets leave that one for another day.
I am shocked that this guy was given a suspended sentence...as I asked earlier I would be really interested to know exactly what reasons the judge had to make that decision. In my experience, sex offenders are the only type of offender that definately have their brains wired up differently from everyone else, and they need to be locked up for the publics safety.
I am however strongly against naming and shaming type campaigns. Having read the article in the Star tonight, it seems that people broke into this guys house and set four fires on the go. By all accounts it took the fire service some time to put it out. What would have happened if the houses next door had set alight...there might have been children in those houses, their parents, etc. They might have been hurt or killed as a result of people taking he law into their own hands. Thats the reason why I am against it.
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thought they were on about the one who lives on Fisher Street!
But, I know the chap they mean if its Asquith Rd as well, used to mope about outside the sure start centre on The Avenue.
There's two paedophiles, i know of, residing in the avenue area.
Apparently, the house on asquith road that got torched, is wrecked.
It's quite unsettling how many paedo's there are around. There's a few in the west end area too :angry:
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SpaceShowerTeleVision wrote:
Taking my emotion out of it...it seems odd that a man charged with possessing 1113 images of chold pornography and 16 counts of making indecent images of a child was only give a 16 week suspended sentence. I wonder what facts the judge took into account when making his decision?
He was one of the ring himself possibly?
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I thought removing your knackers stopped your body producing sexy chemicals, therefore stopping you getting any sexual urges of any kind?
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Hotdogs4$ale wrote:
I thought removing your knackers stopped your body producing sexy chemicals, therefore stopping you getting any sexual urges of any kind?
Its often to do with perceived power over the victim, rather than satisfying 'normal' sexual urges hotdog. There is something really wrong with the thought - \"i was just teaching the little boy about the birds and the bees\" when in actual fact he buggered the 4 year old with his fist.
Dont forget sometimes there isnt even sexual contact between offender and victim, as in this case which involved indecent images on a computer. You would have to cut out the 'sex centres' in the brain to completely remove even 'normal' sexual urges. Now lobotomy and genital removal....theres the solution ;)
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ts often to do with perceived power over the victim, rather than satisfying 'normal' sexual urges hotdog. There is something really wrong with the thought - \"i was just teaching the little boy about the birds and the bees\" when in actual fact he buggered the 4 year old with his fist.
Dont forget sometimes there isnt even sexual contact between offender and victim, as in this case which involved indecent images on a computer. You would have to cut out the 'sex centres' in the brain to completely remove even 'normal' sexual urges. Now lobotomy and genital removal....theres the solution
Cognitive behaviour therapy would suffice. I don't think any surgery would be required :laugh:
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Carling Rover wrote:
Cognitive behaviour therapy would suffice. I don't think any surgery would be required :laugh:
Carling...the man of reason....I dont understand all the fury over your contributions ;)
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Carling Rover wrote:
thought they were on about the one who lives on Fisher Street!
But, I know the chap they mean if its Asquith Rd as well, used to mope about outside the sure start centre on The Avenue.
There's two paedophiles, i know of, residing in the avenue area.
Apparently, the house on asquith road that got torched, is wrecked.
It's quite unsettling how many paedo's there are around. There's a few in the west end area too :angry:
Its also quite unsettling, given the amount of dodgy characters in the area, how many parents let their young children roam te streets, unsupervised, until 10 - 11 o clock at night around here. Absolutely ridiculous.
I might be making a presumption, but I assume you live in Bentley yourself then Carling?, given your local knowledge of the area?
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Yes, I'm renting a house in west end at the moment. My family house is in Richmond tho. My sister lives here in bentley, so i came to live here, for now.
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Rigoglioso wrote:
All paedophiles should be named and shamed .
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