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Off Topic / Re: Coronavirus
« Last post by SydneyRover on Today at 06:13:37 am »
Another near miss, the daughter-in-laws mum flew in from the UK on Thurs and we had arranged for a get-together on Sat. I suggested it was a bit close to our trip which is only 4-5 weeks away and we should instead meet just the family today Monday. Of course, we had a call yesterday to say they all had covid except for the g-kids. Nothing serious, so far they have mild symptoms and appear to be improving already.
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Viking Chat / Re: Todays game
« Last post by Sammy Chung was King on Today at 06:07:34 am »
Quote from: RoversAlias on Today at 12:13:35 am
Quote from: Sammy Chung was King on July 03, 2022, 10:29:16 pm
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on July 03, 2022, 07:32:16 pm
Quote from: Sammy Chung was King on July 03, 2022, 06:40:00 pm
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on July 03, 2022, 06:11:55 pm
Quote from: Sammy Chung was King on July 03, 2022, 05:36:16 pm
I just think get some width and go for it. I’m sure he is intelligent enough to adapt. Get some crosses in the box from wide.

Then bring in someone where crossing is historically his game, like Ash Hunter, not someone who's never played that role. :laugh:

Are you his relative, Donny?. :lol:

Which? TBF I'm not related to either! I just find building a football team is a simple thing made not simple when people try to put square shapes in round holes, like when Chelsea signed Lukaku.

Only a joke mate, just because you’ve mentioned Hunter a few times. Sounds like you rate him highly. I don’t know of him, who does he play for?.
I’m just really old fashioned , I love wingers playing on the side of their natural foot. You’re right about square pegs though .

It is curious that you can consistently name obscure nobody footballers from far flung leagues and countries, yet a well known player who has played over 200 games in Leagues One and Two in the last decade, often including against Rovers, is someone you aren't aware of.

The way the game is played nowadays also, it is rare for teams to play with wingers operating on the side of their strong foot. The days of just running to the byline because you're faster than the full-back and crossing it in are over. It is much better to face up a defender and get him onto his weak foot, or pull a defensive line out of position by cutting across to the inside, especially with the way that full-backs have become much more adept technically as ball-players in the last 20 years.

If Ryan Giggs came through the youth ranks today, he would play on the right and David Beckham would play on the left. It's curious, but times change as the game develops and different tactical and individual styles take hold.

I’ve not noticed him, nothing curious about that really. Yes it’s the way football is now. Arjen Robben was the first I remember cutting inside from wide. I do think the old style wingers will make a comeback. Clubs like players to cut inside as it gives them extra in the midfield . It’s ideal if you have a winger that can go either way. Not many of those around.

Cutting inside allows the winger to be more of a goal threat. Whereas the old way, it was about crossing a ball by getting the edge on your immediate opponent. It does create uncertainty in defences, the winger cutting inside. Does the defender come out of position to face up the challenge, or drop off and fill the gaps they can go into.
It would be good if you had a crosser of the ball on one wing, the other cutting in and being a threat on goal.
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Viking Chat / Re: Todays game
« Last post by DearneValleyRover on Today at 05:34:01 am »
We have to remember that 5 subs can be used this season, I would expect a lot of rotation happening so players being on the bench isn’t going to be an issue, I’m expecting certain players to be asked to bust a guy for 60 mins and be replaced.
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Off Topic / Re: Who does Lewis Hamilton think he is
« Last post by SydneyRover on Today at 03:36:56 am »
Great to see support from people such as Hamilton for protesters trying to get governments to act on climate change and call out racism in sport.

It would help if more were on the same page.

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Viking Chat / Re: Todays game
« Last post by RoversAlias on Today at 12:13:35 am »
Quote from: Sammy Chung was King on July 03, 2022, 10:29:16 pm
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on July 03, 2022, 07:32:16 pm
Quote from: Sammy Chung was King on July 03, 2022, 06:40:00 pm
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on July 03, 2022, 06:11:55 pm
Quote from: Sammy Chung was King on July 03, 2022, 05:36:16 pm
I just think get some width and go for it. I’m sure he is intelligent enough to adapt. Get some crosses in the box from wide.

Then bring in someone where crossing is historically his game, like Ash Hunter, not someone who's never played that role. :laugh:

Are you his relative, Donny?. :lol:

Which? TBF I'm not related to either! I just find building a football team is a simple thing made not simple when people try to put square shapes in round holes, like when Chelsea signed Lukaku.

Only a joke mate, just because you’ve mentioned Hunter a few times. Sounds like you rate him highly. I don’t know of him, who does he play for?.
I’m just really old fashioned , I love wingers playing on the side of their natural foot. You’re right about square pegs though .

It is curious that you can consistently name obscure nobody footballers from far flung leagues and countries, yet a well known player who has played over 200 games in Leagues One and Two in the last decade, often including against Rovers, is someone you aren't aware of.

The way the game is played nowadays also, it is rare for teams to play with wingers operating on the side of their strong foot. The days of just running to the byline because you're faster than the full-back and crossing it in are over. It is much better to face up a defender and get him onto his weak foot, or pull a defensive line out of position by cutting across to the inside, especially with the way that full-backs have become much more adept technically as ball-players in the last 20 years.

If Ryan Giggs came through the youth ranks today, he would play on the right and David Beckham would play on the left. It's curious, but times change as the game develops and different tactical and individual styles take hold.
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Viking Chat / Re: Todays game
« Last post by Campsall rover on July 03, 2022, 11:59:23 pm »
Quote from: danumdon on July 03, 2022, 11:04:58 pm
Some of the ribbing that Taylor has got from people watching him at Armthorpe is very short sighted,the guy has had a dreadful 18 months and hopefully can get back to something like his old self, I don't mind him missing a few chances in the first pre season game, the fact he gets into the positions can only be a good thing for when he has some fitness into  his legs.

Massive miss for us last season, could have a really big say in this league.
You maybe referring to me as one of those posters.
Well it wasn’t ribbing him just commenting on the facts of the game. Yes he missed the target with his shooting but at least he was shooting. If you don’t you don’t score. So credit to him.
The fact is he is well short of match fitness of course and that is to be expected as he p,aged only 2 games I think last season ( stand to be corrected if that’s incorrect )
I like Jon Taylor and when he gets up to speed he will be a huge player for us this season.
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Viking Chat / Re: Todays game
« Last post by Sammy Chung was King on July 03, 2022, 11:43:04 pm »
He needs to build confidence, fitness, strength and get his Coordination back to how it was. A long process for him .
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Viking Chat / Re: Alfie May
« Last post by Sammy Chung was King on July 03, 2022, 11:41:13 pm »
At the time we had a good side and I don’t think anybody was all that bothered when he left. He was restricted the impression he could produce. Last season it could be a one off. I don’t think he will score that many again but will get into double figures.
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Viking Chat / Re: Alfie May
« Last post by Campsall rover on July 03, 2022, 11:27:35 pm »
Quote from: danumdon on July 03, 2022, 10:59:46 pm
Quote from: Sammy Chung was King on July 03, 2022, 10:40:19 pm
Marquis is the better natural all round footballer. I wouldn’t say he’s lazy I would say he leaves a bit to the side at times. He’s a hard worker.
May gets the most out of himself by working hard. He isn’t a natural but has a great attitude.
You are guaranteed he will give his best every game. He wasn’t used well by us, Cheltenham have played him where he’s best, they got their rewards.

I must admit they way AM was treated by our then management was shocking, the fact he had come from none league and his age meant he needed a little more time to really get to the speed of the game, he was always going to be a good fit for somebody because of his natural ability and work rate but to be cast aside for premiership youngsters by a very set in his way manager was shocking, the lad was on peanuts and could of just as well been kept, as it turned out we could of made something of last season if we had still had him.

Short sighted and wasteful by a myopic management.
Hindsight eh. It’s a wonderful thing.
Because Alfie had a brilliant season with Cheltenham it is so easy now to say we dropped a clanger letting him go.
The fact is even with his brilliant attitude and hard work when he played with us he very very rarely produced an end product. How many assists did he provide and how many goals did he score in league games?
Yes he got a few in cup games I know but 4 of them were against Chorley who were 3 leagues below us or was it 4 at the time of that FA cup tie.

Admittedly Alfie wasn’t used in his best position but that was because we played 4-3-3 most of the time so with only 1 central striker he was played out wide.
At Cheltenham they played 4-4-2 mostly so Alfie played as a twin striker which suited his natural game.
The fact is Duff got him playing consistently week in week out and he flourished under his management.

Let’s be honest folks how many people thought he had it in him to score over 20 goals last season.
I think if we are all honest no one could have foreseen that outcome in League 1
National League maybe he might be a 1 in 3 goalscorer but to get 1 in 2 in League 1, well only BB could forsee that, but only because he has a crystal ball.
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Viking Chat / Re: Todays game
« Last post by danumdon on July 03, 2022, 11:04:58 pm »
Some of the ribbing that Taylor has got from people watching him at Armthorpe is very short sighted,the guy has had a dreadful 18 months and hopefully can get back to something like his old self, I don't mind him missing a few chances in the first pre season game, the fact he gets into the positions can only be a good thing for when he has some fitness into  his legs.

Massive miss for us last season, could have a really big say in this league.
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