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CusworthRovers

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Knoxy
« on October 08, 2011, 01:50:52 pm by CusworthRovers »
Is it just me or do others feel this is a victory for American Media and another sad day when the Italians surrender and retreat.

Meanwhile 2 callous, evil murderers have the pleasure of walking this Earth. I hope she comes back and haunts them to death



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jucyberry

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Re: Knoxy
« Reply #1 on October 08, 2011, 03:45:06 pm by jucyberry »
You aren't alone, at the end of the day the Yanks splashed the cash and got her off.. I have read some downright stupid things on American forums, ..things like she is too pretty, too all American to be guilty. ...

Donny Dub

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Re: Knoxy
« Reply #2 on October 08, 2011, 05:23:38 pm by Donny Dub »
Guilty alright no question about it and she's very lucky to be free.  
All those tears just look to me like tears of shame.

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Re: Knoxy
« Reply #3 on October 08, 2011, 05:50:09 pm by Sandy Lane »
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Is it just me or do others feel this is a victory for American Media and another sad day when the Italians surrender and retreat.

Meanwhile 2 callous, evil murderers have the pleasure of walking this Earth. I hope she comes back and haunts them to death


Cussy, I wondered when this subject would come up and surprised it took so long. But please believe that just because I'm a Yank does not make me automatically defend Amanda Knox, because I was also swayed by the media and hype surrounding this brutal murder.  And it wasn't until I read this article that I understood what had probably happened, and tbh it rings of truth for me.  Some of the descriptions are a bit ott, but it's the first time that I've read of some of the events that transpired:

 http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/the-neverending-nightmare-of-amanda-knox-20110627
 
Now before I hear you say, yeah, right, this is a Rolling Stone article, what do they know about in-depth journalism, I'll point out that they have been credited with the exposure of  NATO General McChrystal, which forced his resignation as well as other articles on the inside dealings on the US Govt., etc  My point is that they are not pro American by any means.

Anyway, the biggest points for me were that she had only known her boyfriend for 6 days, the first responders were the Italian 'postal' police who contaminated the evidence, she was 21 years old and barely spoke Italian, and that she trusted the Italian police who interviewed her without a lawyer for hours getting a 'confession', and no one has discovered a motive.  Also after reading a book called, a \"The Monster of Florence\" had more insight into the corrupt and weird judge presiding over this trial.  

Also, last week after all was said and done though, many people (Italians included) acknowledged the mistakes made and subsequent rush to conclusion.  I'm not interested in a debate, but just wanted to share this story as it did show how things could have been misconstrued and escalated it into the circus it became.  No one deserves what happened to Meredith Kircher, but I just can't see why Amanda Knox could or would do it.  

P.S.  I don't know how it was a victory for America media, but rather a blot on all journalists (American and British alike) for letting a good story get in the way of a lack of evidence.

 And Jucy, who exactly 'splashed the cash'?  I've seen no evidence of this either, particularly in light of her sitting in jail for four years. Why let facts get in the way of a good American bashing, eh? ;)

keyser_soze

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Re: Knoxy
« Reply #4 on October 10, 2011, 06:47:46 am by keyser_soze »
It's a good job she wasn't dealt with the way many Americans deal with murderers, she'd have been 6 foot under by now!

Surprised more hasn't been made of that.

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Re: Knoxy
« Reply #5 on October 10, 2011, 07:33:39 am by Glyn_Wigley »
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Re: Knoxy
« Reply #6 on October 10, 2011, 08:46:13 am by Donnywolf »
....and the unfortunate part of it is that we will all have formed judgements based on what we have read and most will \"stick\" with that view

Now I know not whether she did or did not do it BUT just supposing she HAS DONE NOWT wrong .... the tears and please of not guilty are REAL ... well if that was you / your son or Daughter how would you expect them to react ? As I say she may be guilty but equally may be innocent

Every time something like this comes up opinion is polarised - look at the mad professor type in Bristol last year when the girl renting his flat went missing then was found dead . He was hounded tries and sentenced by the Media - and it turns out it was not him

The girl at Stockport knocking off the patients with doctored Saline drip. Ditto. Did she do that ? YES according to TV Papers etc but now not to be prosecuted

silent majority

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Re: Knoxy
« Reply #7 on October 10, 2011, 09:58:06 am by silent majority »
I read the book 'Monster Of Florence' a couple of years ago. If you had read that then you would and could understand how this Police force, and in particular Mingnini the Chief Prosecutor, get things so badly wrong. Not only that but he reverts to his usual satanic rites conspiracy every time.

In that instance they gave life sentences to 6 people and all had to be released as the killer kept on killing whilst they were in prison. On balance you have to suspect that Amanda Knox was in fact innocent, despite her not being terribly likeable you have to allow justice to work.

keyser_soze

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Re: Knoxy
« Reply #8 on October 10, 2011, 10:44:33 am by keyser_soze »
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Every time something like this comes up opinion is polarised - look at the mad professor type in Bristol last year when the girl renting his flat went missing then was found dead . He was hounded tries and sentenced by the Media - and it turns out it was not him


yep - his only crime was 'looking a bit weird'

RobTheRover

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Re: Knoxy
« Reply #9 on October 10, 2011, 11:16:48 am by RobTheRover »
Chuffing hell, haklf of the users of this forum had better watch out! ;-)

silent majority

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Re: Knoxy
« Reply #10 on October 10, 2011, 08:10:55 pm by silent majority »
Just realised I still have the book on my shelf, so if anybody wants to read 'The Monster of Florence' I'll quite gladly drop it off at the stadium one day.

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Re: Knoxy
« Reply #11 on October 11, 2011, 06:13:43 am by Donnywolf »
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Just realised I still have the book on my shelf, so if anybody wants to read 'The Monster of Florence' I'll quite gladly drop it off at the stadium one day.


Thanks for the offer but I have a blow up cushion which is easier to transport

CusworthRovers

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Re: Knoxy
« Reply #12 on October 15, 2011, 02:18:11 pm by CusworthRovers »
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Quote from: \"CusworthRovers\" post=189911
Is it just me or do others feel this is a victory for American Media and another sad day when the Italians surrender and retreat.

Meanwhile 2 callous, evil murderers have the pleasure of walking this Earth. I hope she comes back and haunts them to death


Cussy, I wondered when this subject would come up and surprised it took so long. But please believe that just because I'm a Yank does not make me automatically defend Amanda Knox, because I was also swayed by the media and hype surrounding this brutal murder.  And it wasn't until I read this article that I understood what had probably happened, and tbh it rings of truth for me.  Some of the descriptions are a bit ott, but it's the first time that I've read of some of the events that transpired:

 http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/the-neverending-nightmare-of-amanda-knox-20110627
 
Now before I hear you say, yeah, right, this is a Rolling Stone article, what do they know about in-depth journalism, I'll point out that they have been credited with the exposure of  NATO General McChrystal, which forced his resignation as well as other articles on the inside dealings on the US Govt., etc  My point is that they are not pro American by any means.

Anyway, the biggest points for me were that she had only known her boyfriend for 6 days, the first responders were the Italian 'postal' police who contaminated the evidence, she was 21 years old and barely spoke Italian, and that she trusted the Italian police who interviewed her without a lawyer for hours getting a 'confession', and no one has discovered a motive.  Also after reading a book called, a \"The Monster of Florence\" had more insight into the corrupt and weird judge presiding over this trial.  

Also, last week after all was said and done though, many people (Italians included) acknowledged the mistakes made and subsequent rush to conclusion.  I'm not interested in a debate, but just wanted to share this story as it did show how things could have been misconstrued and escalated it into the circus it became.  No one deserves what happened to Meredith Kircher, but I just can't see why Amanda Knox could or would do it.  

P.S.  I don't know how it was a victory for America media, but rather a blot on all journalists (American and British alike) for letting a good story get in the way of a lack of evidence.

 And Jucy, who exactly 'splashed the cash'?  I've seen no evidence of this either, particularly in light of her sitting in jail for four years. Why let facts get in the way of a good American bashing, eh? ;)


Sandy, I'm not making this an Anti-American thread. Some smart arse lawyers put that small element of doubt into everyone's mind over possible contaminated evidence. However facts are- a one off, off the cuff night off work for Knoxy, her mobile was switched off for the only ever time that very night, she never reported the bloodbath in her house for hours, she changed her account no end of times, she finally states she had been shagging, smoking dope and was having an occult Halloween evening (I'm sure she was of sound mind that night). Then let's not forget the DNA of Knox on the murder weapon and also the DNA on Kerchers bra clasp. Obviously this is where the doubt of POSSIBLE contamination was played into the minds of all....and this from 2 forensics experts who were very under qualified compared to the original forensic expert who examined originally, then we have a footprint in the blood that matched Knoxy's and Sollecito. We then have the staged burglary to hide the possible inner truth.

Those smart arse lawyers/media circus can do wonders can't they. They can even convince us that there are weapons of mass destruction in order to start a war

I'm still to be convinced that Knoxy didn't know what went off that fateful night.

 

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