Mckay's players

[donnygreenjeans]

Am i the only one who thinks that the players that willie Mckay has brought to the club have either been average or disappointing because i have, to say certain players have had premiership and champions league experience i haven't witnessed this and all these players are in the shop window hoping to secure a club after their time with us, i say good luck with that, we've had...........

Bagayoko - He is that good that today after 58 minutes he was substituted.

Diouf - For me, not shown enough qualities he possesses.

Ilunga - Average player, i saw him play his best game last monday and he's played 15 games for us.

Chimbonda - Dare i say average, plagued with injuries whilst been here.

Goulon - Again average.

Kirkland - Very unfortuantely injured.

Ikeme - Great keeper once again unfortuantely injured.

And the best thing is that Willie Mckay is here for two years, wonder what players we are going to get if we get relegated and we are in division 1?

[Red wizard]

The plan will be scraped if we go down. JR words.

[robchester]

Have to disagree - Diouf has worked hard and shown us the quality he has.

We cannot judge the striker today on one performance.

For me the jury is out on Ilunga

Beye has been excellent for us.

As you say both Kirkland and Ikeme have been unlucky.

Chimbonda runs hot and cold

[benaldo]

Can't people give it a rest now. If I was Mckay, after today I would be sat at home thinking \"what the hell am I doing helping that club out?\".

Diouf is an excellent player, 90% of the players brought in have been measurably better than the alternatives. DO some people just like moaning or is it that they don't like change? IF Mckay leaves and it's down to the utter drivel some people consistently come out with then I hope Rovers get relegated. And if that is the case, I won't be watching Rovers anymore because it'll be clear to me that the \"fans\" don't like change and can't accept and support their chairman. It bloody stinks.

For the stupid -

Mckay = good players and increases the chances of staying up
No Mckay = Woods in goal, Hayter up front and Friend at left back.....with zero prospects of any decent players coming within a million miles of Doncaster.

It really isn't rocket science!

[philsky]

Benny

Im with you.

Shite today but get Stock some support (Oster and Woods) and suddenly there are options.

Its not brain surgery

[Donnybax]

its not like you dont moan with something or someone you dont like is it benaldo? and i dont see the problem with having hayter upfront tbh

[philsky]

its not like you dont moan with something or someone you dont like is it benaldo? and i dont see the problem with having hayter upfront tbh

Hayter is a good Neil Roberts; gets about, grafts, causes havoc but just isnt that clinical instinctive striker. Soz.

[donnygreenjeans]

Have to disagree - Diouf has worked hard and shown us the quality he has.

We cannot judge the striker today on one performance.

For me the jury is out on Ilunga

Beye has been excellent for us.

As you say both Kirkland and Ikeme have been unlucky.

Chimbonda runs hot and cold

IMO i thought Diouf would haved scored more goals and if i'm being picky he gets wound up too easy, he picked a needless yellow card last saturday at Watford and also today, i still think he's a good player but i dont think he'll sign his extended 18 month contract.

On Bagayoko, i know we can't judge a player on one performance BUT being subbed on 58 minutes against a club lower placed than us does not fill me with confidence, espicially now that B.S. is set to leave, to quote D.S. on Bagayoko \"Bagayoko is a different type of player – a big, strong, more robust player, with more experience. He’s been around and played at the highest level, although both have played in the Champions League\", well from today's performance i think D.S. must have been talking about a different player.

[dickos1]

Bagayako isn't fit but we had no alternative, let's slag him off after 50 mins shall we.. He's our player are we not supposed to support our own players??
If diouf hasn't shown enough then god help you

[Donnybax]

Bagayako isn't fit but we had no alternative, let's slag him off after 50 mins shall we.. He's our player are we not supposed to support our own players??
If diouf hasn't shown enough then god help you

could we not have played diouf

[dickos1]

If you think the fa cup is more important than surviving in championship then yes.

[donnygreenjeans]

Bagayako isn't fit but we had no alternative, let's slag him off after 50 mins shall we.. He's our player are we not supposed to support our own players??
If diouf hasn't shown enough then god help you

These so called players have got ex-premier league and champions league experience, have you honestly seen that so far? If a player isn't fully fit then why play him then when we have got fit players?

[Donnybax]

surviving is much more important but if saunders didnt want to play diouf at all then why is he on the bench why would you give yourself the option of playing him if your intention is to not play him at all? Maybe he would have been better giving one of the youth players a go that did well against chelsea in the cup or at least put him on the bench

[dickos1]

If he's not match fit, how is he going to get match fit???? I've seen premier league quality from bêye, diouf, ikeme, fortune, of course I have. But maybe people are blinded by their desire for failure!

[donnyroversfc]

Bagayako isn't fit but we had no alternative, let's slag him off after 50 mins shall we.. He's our player are we not supposed to support our own players??
If diouf hasn't shown enough then god help you

I didn't go today so can only go off comments on here how players played. But why play an unfit Bagayoko? I said in a thread last night that i'd like to see Jordan Ball and James Husband be given a chance in the FA Cup match, Dont think he had anything to lose if he'd have given them a run out.

[DonnyNoel]

Am i the only one who thinks that the players that willie Mckay has brought to the club have either been average or disappointing because i have, to say certain players have had premiership and champions league experience i haven't witnessed this and all these players are in the shop window hoping to secure a club after their time with us, i say good luck with that, we've had...........

Bagayoko - He is that good that today after 58 minutes he was substituted.

Diouf - For me, not shown enough qualities he possesses.

Ilunga - Average player, i saw him play his best game last monday and he's played 15 games for us.

Chimbonda - Dare i say average, plagued with injuries whilst been here.

Goulon - Again average.

Kirkland - Very unfortuantely injured.

Ikeme - Great keeper once again unfortuantely injured.

And the best thing is that Willie Mckay is here for two years, wonder what players we are going to get if we get relegated and we are in division 1?

I don't think you can analyse the loan signings as part of the \"McKay experiment\" - by default logic if we get a player on loan he should fit in to the side on the same level as current players because if they were significantly better they wouldnt be available for loan (see Goulon and Ilunga - appear average because they are average, hence why they are available for loan).

Diouf is quality, just needs a run in a settled side to bed in. Chimbonda is a decent player but seemingly injury prone.

For me the January signings will define the true value of McKay although I will admit Bakayogo isn't the best start although I have high hopes for Plessis.

[dickos1]

He's not match fit, can only achieve this by playing matches. Simple

[donnygreenjeans]

Can't people give it a rest now. If I was Mckay, after today I would be sat at home thinking \"what the hell am I doing helping that club out?\".

Diouf is an excellent player, 90% of the players brought in have been measurably better than the alternatives. DO some people just like moaning or is it that they don't like change? IF Mckay leaves and it's down to the utter drivel some people consistently come out with then I hope Rovers get relegated. And if that is the case, I won't be watching Rovers anymore because it'll be clear to me that the \"fans\" don't like change and can't accept and support their chairman. It bloody stinks.

For the stupid -

Mckay = good players and increases the chances of staying up
No Mckay = Woods in goal, Hayter up front and Friend at left back.....with zero prospects of any decent players coming within a million miles of Doncaster.

It really isn't rocket science!

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, i like it how you have used the words 'measurably better' about the so called players that have been brought here to get us out of the position we find ourselves in but we are still there and now probably the one player who could have helped our cause is certain to leave the club. IMO, i think the club would be slightly in a better position without Mckay.

[dickos1]

So the clause in sharps contract is also Saunders fault now is it?? Hilarious

[Donnybax]

personally i dont think the stratergy is a good idea but nevertheless should it not be measured in:
a)the quality of the players we bring in and if they get us out of the relegation zone
b)if the likes of illunga get sold and make us some money

[donnygreenjeans]

So the clause in sharps contract is also Saunders fault now is it?? Hilarious

Why bring that up when no one else has?

[dickos1]

Can't people give it a rest now. If I was Mckay, after today I would be sat at home thinking \"what the hell am I doing helping that club out?\".

Diouf is an excellent player, 90% of the players brought in have been measurably better than the alternatives. DO some people just like moaning or is it that they don't like change? IF Mckay leaves and it's down to the utter drivel some people consistently come out with then I hope Rovers get relegated. And if that is the case, I won't be watching Rovers anymore because it'll be clear to me that the \"fans\" don't like change and can't accept and support their chairman. It bloody stinks.

For the stupid -

Mckay = good players and increases the chances of staying up
No Mckay = Woods in goal, Hayter up front and Friend at left back.....with zero prospects of any decent players coming within a million miles of Doncaster.

It really isn't rocket science!

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, i like it how you have used the words 'measurably better' about the so called players that have been brought here to get us out of the position we find ourselves in but we are still there and now probably the one player who could have helped our cause is certain to leave the club. IMO, i think the club would be slightly in a better position without Mckay.

You mentioned sharp leaving in the same sentence as McKay should leave.

[Red Rover]

The plan will be scraped if we go down. JR words.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

That's alrite then! Are you kidding me?! Can you see the likes of Diouf, Chimbonda, Ikeme come to us anyway if we get relegated?! It's ok JR saying he'd pull the plug, but it wud pull the plug on itself!

[Jonathan]

He's not match fit, can only achieve this by playing matches. Simple

Therein lies the the problem, or at least one of the problems. Are we just a vehicle for potentially average players to use to get fit and acclimatise? Not personally bothered that we're out of the cup as it's not a priority, but can we afford to field unfit players in the league in the hope that one day they might be able to make a difference?

[dickos1]

No mate we can't, but we need a contingency to replace sharp. They've obviously known for a bit he is off, so they're trying to do something about it. And with no money available I don't believe they have many alternatives.

[Thinwhiteduke]

IF Mckay leaves and it's down to the utter drivel some people consistently come out with then I hope Rovers get relegated. And if that is the case, I won't be watching Rovers anymore because it'll be clear to me that the \"fans\" don't like change and can't accept and support their chairman.

Talk about hypocritical...the number of times you, and that prat Wellred, have slagged people off on here for statements similar to that.

Tut..Tut..Tut.

[Wellred]

IF Mckay leaves and it's down to the utter drivel some people consistently come out with then I hope Rovers get relegated. And if that is the case, I won't be watching Rovers anymore because it'll be clear to me that the \"fans\" don't like change and can't accept and support their chairman.

Talk about hypocritical...the number of times you, and that prat Wellred, have slagged people off on here for statements similar to that.

Tut..Tut..Tut.

You must be the most obnoxious person ever to have posted on this forum.
Don't you ever have anything positive to say?

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

He has a point though Wellred.  Why the hell can fans not get behind the club and the manager?  I could understand it if the previous manager was unfairly sacked, he wasn't.

[Wellred]

He has a point though Wellred.  Why the hell can fans not get behind the club and the manager?  I could understand it if the previous manager was unfairly sacked, he wasn't.

Have you actually read and understood his post? Or maybe if I had said. Have you understood and read that PRAT THINWHITEDUKE's post the penny might have dropped.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

He has a point though Wellred.  Why the hell can fans not get behind the club and the manager?  I could understand it if the previous manager was unfairly sacked, he wasn't.

Have you actually read and understood his post? Or maybe if I had said. Have you understood and read that PRAT THINWHITEDUKE's post the penny might have dropped.

Appologies chap, I read the quote as you replying to Benaldo's post.