Doncaster Vs Leeds Thoughts from a Leeds fan

[River Don]

Good point. However I am Yorkshire through and through, so any team in Yorkshire fits the bill not just from South Yorkshire. Therefore it has to be Leeds as they are easily the best team in Yorkshire and are the only one to have the potential to be the best in the world. Yorkshire, Yorkshire, Yorkshire etc.

Based on that shouldn't you be a Hull fan? Hull is still in Yorkshire as it is within the ancient boundaries of the East Rding and is now after a very brief hiatus returned to East Yorkshire. They have been far more successful in recent decades. Alternatively Middlesbrough have been more successful than Leeds too.

Yorkshire, Yorkshire, Yorkshire etc.

Or you could just stop worrying about it all and just support the Rovers.

[idler]

Donny is no longer in the West Riding but in South Yorkshire. Shouldn't you be a Wednesday supporter rather than a Leeds fan IC?

I always thought that in the 60s the west riding started at the three horse shoes roundabout. There was just the East, West and North Ridings in those days.

[River Don]

Idler

It's before more time and I'm not sure where the threehorseshoes is but I thought Donny was in the old West riding? Wasn't Wakey the main admin centre?

[idler]

I seem to think that we are missing the point here. If, and I say IF, Leeds are promoted, how many more so called or possible Rovers fans will switch to Leeds as they have in the past. It could make life more difficult for the rest of us. By the way we already have a Yorkshire team in the PL, Hull CITY.

Not many , chances are that they would have gone when we were demoted last time. It's impossible to switch surely, I understand folk'following' a chosen team playing in Europe etc., or that might have some family connections. I have three myself and have distinct reasons for each of them:-
1) Man Utd - when I was growing up in the late mid to late 60's it was a pleasure to see the likes of Best, Charlton and especially Law strut their stuff. Can I add here that having a family from Manchester I also had the pleasure to go to Maine Road and watched Bell. Summerbee and Lee
2) Fulham -I used to go to the Cottage with my Grandad when I wasn't travelling abroad. I loved the 'feel' of the place and still do to this day.
3) Crystal Palace - My 'late' mother's team again I love the place for all it's faults and more especially the supporters . I still rate them them as some of the noisiest and funniest around.

I never had an affinity with Leeds Utd. under their old manager Don Revie- I DIDN'T LIKE THEM THEN AND STILL DON'T TO THIS DAY.
The problem is the club, owners and it's fans seem to think the world owes them a living and that they can cheat their way out of every situation whilst their fans pretend they are European Cup winners. They swan into every town as if they are 'it' and they haven't been for a long long time. That is why they are hated and that's why they are called SCUM.
Why some choose to hate the relatively successful club in Manchester more than these clowns amazes me. Donnywolf for instance has a pathological hatred for this successful team as many others do. Does he like many others of you hate success and some of the most beautiful exponents of this beautiful game ever seen in this country ? Filo did they rob our club of it's supporters or was it the Scum from up the road in the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's. I doubt it very much as I see very few folk wearing Man Utd shirts these days especially modern one's .

I just think that the folk of Doncaster just got sick of watching a team for 50 years that achieved little or nowt. Prior to that and during the 1950's we had some great teams ; after that the town had the occasional Division 4 winner which generally returned swiftly from whence it came. It's hard to get full houses and decent average attendances when seemingly we implode in front of our audience (Wembley and Cardiff excepted). Strangely enough our major successes have been celebrated out of the town and somehow the town's folk have obviously not felt involved as they did in the past. Perhaps the club and the town somehow became seperated in a way that rarely happens in for example Burnley.
 
Whilst we are doing sterling work with the youngsters of the Borough are we doing enough to engage with the adults ; those that buy the season tickets for their young'uns and would perhaps go with them ..........I KNOW WE LOSE EVERY TIME WE HAVE A FREEBIE OR CUT PRICE NIGHT. !! That has been very unlucky and we've all been there when the 'LOST' generations march out on or about the 70th minute shoutig ''same old fecking Rovers'' or such like choice phrases but............we MUST be persistent with those that would take those youngsters to games. We should be shouting about this club, it's recent successes, it's Community stadium from the bloody rooftops . Every vantage point in and out of this town should be secured to advertise this club OUR club and what it has to offer. I saw more advertising in the Free Press for instance for the 'Firework Spectacular' than I have seen for all our matches this season. This needs to be addressed and pronto............every business has to communicate with both it's current customers and it's 'potential' customers or they all gradually think the business no longer cares about them and perhaps the way they have been neglected all these years has left them feeling 'cold' about the club.

Unless we find a way to marry up club and town , we will always struggle . It means more 'open' days , more money spent on advertising etc etc........rant over for now. 
Steve, in my opinion Man Unt. lost a lot of support after they dropped out of the 1st division in 1974.
Their fans behaviour at away games the following season was a disgrace. Obviously because of the numbers they had more idiots.
I also think that Man Unt. Also attract a large number of armchair fans that never attend a live game but then tell everybody within hearing distance how their team are the greatest.
Thirdly Sir Alex Ferguson made them even more hated by his myopic view on everything concerning his team and players.
He might have made them very successful but also the most hated team in the land.
He could have learned a lot from Sir Matt Busby, just my opinion of course but I think that sums up how me and a lot of people I know feel.

[Dagenham Rover]

So Hull isn't in East Yorkshire (according to micks law) and by your logic that automatically puts it into a metropolitan area that was aboliished by parliment in 1996

[idler]

Idler

It's before more time and I'm not sure where the threehorseshoes is but I thought Donny was in the old West riding? Wasn't Wakey the main admin centre?
Wakey was but I remember a bloke that I worked with had a son that was a bobby.  One night they went to the north bridge side of the River Don to a dead body floating at the side of the bank.
When he said what should we do? His sergeant said push him over to the other side and let the West Riding force deal with it.
I know the Doncaster reg for cars was DT . The west Riding had a few including CW  and Sheffield had a few including WE and Wx.
Barnsley's was he. The Regent petrol advert even featured a car with a reg. THE 1 which was actually the mayor of Barnsley's reg.

[silent majority]

Seems I wasted my time with this long post then Martin . I had hoped there was food for thought for the whole forum.
Just why is this now deemed ''Off Topic'' surely it's club and football related..........FOUL I cry. 

Apologies Hoola, restored just for you.

But I still think it's off topic.

[hoolahoop]

I seem to think that we are missing the point here. If, and I say IF, Leeds are promoted, how many more so called or possible Rovers fans will switch to Leeds as they have in the past. It could make life more difficult for the rest of us. By the way we already have a Yorkshire team in the PL, Hull CITY.

Not many , chances are that they would have gone when we were demoted last time. It's impossible to switch surely, I understand folk'following' a chosen team playing in Europe etc., or that might have some family connections. I have three myself and have distinct reasons for each of them:-
1) Man Utd - when I was growing up in the late mid to late 60's it was a pleasure to see the likes of Best, Charlton and especially Law strut their stuff. Can I add here that having a family from Manchester I also had the pleasure to go to Maine Road and watched Bell. Summerbee and Lee
2) Fulham -I used to go to the Cottage with my Grandad when I wasn't travelling abroad. I loved the 'feel' of the place and still do to this day.
3) Crystal Palace - My 'late' mother's team again I love the place for all it's faults and more especially the supporters . I still rate them them as some of the noisiest and funniest around.

I never had an affinity with Leeds Utd. under their old manager Don Revie- I DIDN'T LIKE THEM THEN AND STILL DON'T TO THIS DAY.
The problem is the club, owners and it's fans seem to think the world owes them a living and that they can cheat their way out of every situation whilst their fans pretend they are European Cup winners. They swan into every town as if they are 'it' and they haven't been for a long long time. That is why they are hated and that's why they are called SCUM.
Why some choose to hate the relatively successful club in Manchester more than these clowns amazes me. Donnywolf for instance has a pathological hatred for this successful team as many others do. Does he like many others of you hate success and some of the most beautiful exponents of this beautiful game ever seen in this country ? Filo did they rob our club of it's supporters or was it the Scum from up the road in the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's. I doubt it very much as I see very few folk wearing Man Utd shirts these days especially modern one's .

I just think that the folk of Doncaster just got sick of watching a team for 50 years that achieved little or nowt. Prior to that and during the 1950's we had some great teams ; after that the town had the occasional Division 4 winner which generally returned swiftly from whence it came. It's hard to get full houses and decent average attendances when seemingly we implode in front of our audience (Wembley and Cardiff excepted). Strangely enough our major successes have been celebrated out of the town and somehow the town's folk have obviously not felt involved as they did in the past. Perhaps the club and the town somehow became seperated in a way that rarely happens in for example Burnley.
 
Whilst we are doing sterling work with the youngsters of the Borough are we doing enough to engage with the adults ; those that buy the season tickets for their young'uns and would perhaps go with them ..........I KNOW WE LOSE EVERY TIME WE HAVE A FREEBIE OR CUT PRICE NIGHT. !! That has been very unlucky and we've all been there when the 'LOST' generations march out on or about the 70th minute shoutig ''same old fecking Rovers'' or such like choice phrases but............we MUST be persistent with those that would take those youngsters to games. We should be shouting about this club, it's recent successes, it's Community stadium from the bloody rooftops . Every vantage point in and out of this town should be secured to advertise this club OUR club and what it has to offer. I saw more advertising in the Free Press for instance for the 'Firework Spectacular' than I have seen for all our matches this season. This needs to be addressed and pronto............every business has to communicate with both it's current customers and it's 'potential' customers or they all gradually think the business no longer cares about them and perhaps the way they have been neglected all these years has left them feeling 'cold' about the club.

Unless we find a way to marry up club and town , we will always struggle . It means more 'open' days , more money spent on advertising etc etc........rant over for now. 


Steve, in my opinion Man Unt. lost a lot of support after they dropped out of the 1st division in 1974.
Their fans behaviour at away games the following season was a disgrace. Obviously because of the numbers they had more idiots.
I also think that Man Unt. Also attract a large number of armchair fans that never attend a live game but then tell everybody within hearing distance how their team are the greatest.
Thirdly Sir Alex Ferguson made them even more hated by his myopic view on everything concerning his team and players.
He might have made them very successful but also the most hated team in the land.
He could have learned a lot from Sir Matt Busby, just my opinion of course but I think that sums up how me and a lot of people I know feel.

I couldn't t agree more and you must have noticed that the players mentioned for Man Utd. were all Sir Matt Busby's players after that they sold their souls to the devil. As for the post SMB I also had little time for their  fans behaviour giving it large for 1 season . The Scum do it every season and see themselves as on a par with the most successful club in the country...…..it's bloody laughable !!

[hoolahoop]

Seems I wasted my time with this long post then Martin . I had hoped there was food for thought for the whole forum.
Just why is this now deemed ''Off Topic'' surely it's club and football related..........FOUL I cry. 

Apologies Hoola, restored just for you.

But I still think it's off topic.

Thank you Martin anymore of this Hull is in Humberside bit and you can chuck the whole thread away for me. 

[Dagenham Rover]

Seems I wasted my time with this long post then Martin . I had hoped there was food for thought for the whole forum.
Just why is this now deemed ''Off Topic'' surely it's club and football related..........FOUL I cry. 

Apologies Hoola, restored just for you.

But I still think it's off topic.

Thank you Martin anymore of this Hull is in Humberside bit and you can chuck the whole thread away for me. 

 

[BillyStubbsTears]

Hang on a bit. I'm playing catch-up here.

Have I got the logic right? Hull's not in the East Riding, therefore it is in the Danelaw?

Glad we've cleared that up...

[Dagenham Rover]

Hang on a bit. I'm playing catch-up here.

Have I got the logic right? Hull's not in the East Riding, therefore it is in the Danelaw?

Glad we've cleared that up...

There you go Micks Law