Mr Diplomacy

[Bentley Bullet]

2 out of 3 ain't bad.

[drfchound]

"Every time I cross that white line I’m willing to do anything, absolutely anything to get three points"....except drive for a couple of hours prior to the game and training....I'd do anything to win....but I won't do that.

"Every time i cross that white line" he said, the clue is "cross the white line".
Has he ever driven his car onto the pitch?

[Lifelong supporter]

Just looked at the poll and 90% agree with him!
I saw nothing wrong with what Wellens said at all.
But then SM never misses an opportunity to have a pop at him.
Wonder why?

[wing commander]

  Of course they will agree with him...in essence what he says his true...Kids don't have to do the old apprentice things anymore do they,clubs like in any employment situation these days are wary of were the legal line is crossed on bullying.bias etc etc etc

 What I dont agree with is when Wellens saunters around midfield in his 6 yard movement radius, half arses a tackle or gives it away and fails to try and make up for it..Then rollocks a young lad that has been caught out of position because of his poor efforts...That's happened a few times now.......

[RoversDave]

Going off at a tangent here, what surprises me watching our young lads at Cantley Park, when the ref gives a foul against them is how often you hear the cry of F**K Off from a player and the ref doesn't pull them up for it. Is it accepted practice these days?

[RobTheRover]

A tongue in cheek "Mr Diplomacy" title is hardly having a pop, David.

[Lifelong supporter]

Methinks you give him too much credit.
Perhaps you've missed his previous posts about the player, Jeremy.

[Copps is Magic]

I don't mind the players being softer as long as they play better football. That to me is actually called progress. I love Brian Clough but when he hit Roy Keane and Keane stormed off crying that kind of behaviour was simply out of order and something we need to move on from.

If it's a case of motivation then it's hard not to say that money has definitely affected players probably too a large degree. But I was watching the Wayne Rooney documentary last night and all those traits that Wellens talks about are undoubtedly embodied in that one boy. And he came quite recently.

So maybe the real issue is that we just simply aren't producing enough players in this country.

[silent majority]

So Dave, what previous posts are these then? Enlighten us all.

[acko]

what you say copps is basically true,trouble is kids dont play football like we did in my younger days,other things have taken over in their young lifes.too much emphasis on coaching from very early days from those what shows promise stiffiling natural ability

[drfchound]

  Of course they will agree with him...in essence what he says his true...Kids don't have to do the old apprentice things anymore do they,clubs like in any employment situation these days are wary of were the legal line is crossed on bullying.bias etc etc etc

 What I dont agree with is when Wellens saunters around midfield in his 6 yard movement radius, half arses a tackle or gives it away and fails to try and make up for it..Then rollocks a young lad that has been caught out of position because of his poor efforts...That's happened a few times now.......

6 YARD MOVEMENT RADIUS??
Now that is a ridiculous statement and is a cast iron pop at the player.

[graingrover]

He doesn't get paid to ne a diplomat. He's as entitled to his opinion as anyone else.
I think a lot of what he says is true. Is it just coincidence that our national football team has been garbage for years, despite allegedly having so many 'world class players?'

You are expressing a negative comment at a national team that has just won nine out of nine games in a European qualifying competition . Who or what is your aspirational model  of what is OK to support in football .? Obviously not Rovers nor England either ! Do you have a formula for success in life you could share with us please?

[acko]

maybe graingerover mr frost was saying what a lot beleave,england over the last few years has promised much when qualifying but been total flops when they get to the tournements

[wing commander]

  Of course they will agree with him...in essence what he says his true...Kids don't have to do the old apprentice things anymore do they,clubs like in any employment situation these days are wary of were the legal line is crossed on bullying.bias etc etc etc

 What I dont agree with is when Wellens saunters around midfield in his 6 yard movement radius, half arses a tackle or gives it away and fails to try and make up for it..Then rollocks a young lad that has been caught out of position because of his poor efforts...That's happened a few times now.......

6 YARD MOVEMENT RADIUS??
Now that is a ridiculous statement and is a cast iron pop at the player.

  Of course they will agree with him...in essence what he says his true...Kids don't have to do the old apprentice things anymore do they,clubs like in any employment situation these days are wary of were the legal line is crossed on bullying.bias etc etc etc

 What I dont agree with is when Wellens saunters around midfield in his 6 yard movement radius, half arses a tackle or gives it away and fails to try and make up for it..Then rollocks a young lad that has been caught out of position because of his poor efforts...That's happened a few times now.......

6 YARD MOVEMENT RADIUS??
Now that is a ridiculous statement and is a cast iron pop at the player.

   You are picking segments without addressing the points hound...So lets hear your opinion on the subject without just sniping at mine....Do you disagree that our midfield is second best in most games???? and do you refute that after Wellens cocks up he tends to then blame others??? He is only here bacuase not 1 league 1 club closer to his home than ours and there is quite a few thought he was worth a free transfer...

[drfchound]

To question one, I do not think our midfield is second best in every game.
To question two,when Wellens makes a mistake he does not always blame someone else.
I am not sure whether third third part is a question to me or a statement of yours - you haven't made it clear.
If you mean that he is only here because not one League one club closer to his home would like to sign him (which i think is what you mean) then neither you or i know whether that is true.
Also, you say that quite a few on here would have thought Richie was worth a free transfer, well i can say that quite a few on here didn't think that and are happy for him to still be with us.
Hopefully i have answered your questions

[Lifelong supporter]

So Dave, what previous posts are these then? Enlighten us all.

So not-so-silent, there was the team picture one for a start and several others where you've mentioned him being a big wage earner and not worth what we are paying him.

[wing commander]

He his entitled to his opinion the same as everyone else..wether you agree or not..Same as everybody is

[silent majority]

So Dave, what previous posts are these then? Enlighten us all.

So not-so-silent, there was the team picture one for a start and several others where you've mentioned him being a big wage earner and not worth what we are paying him.

Yep, the team picture is one. But search your depository of all my posts, you know, the one you keep of me, and show me some proof.

As has been mentioned I am entitled to comment, but I doubt very much if you find me making public comments on a players ability.

[IDM]

As has been mentioned I am entitled to comment, but I doubt very much if you find me making public comments on a players ability.

Given that this is a football forum, we would expect you to comment on player ability?? From your personal viewpoint though?

[silent majority]

IDM, I'm not entitled to a personal point of view, don't you know everything I say is the VSCs opinion? :-)

[IDM]

Oh yes - I forgot..

and there was me thinking that forum members could tell the difference between when you (and others) represent the VSC, and when you speak for yourself!!

[dickos1]

It wasn't a statement he was asked a question and he gave an answer, the full interview is on player..
All these reports in the papers are just lazy journalists who have watched the video

[BillyStubbsTears]

“Every time I cross that white line I’m willing to do anything, absolutely anything to get three points,”

This is the same Richie Wellens who, when he signed a contract at the end of August a year or two back, said that over the previous month while he'd been on non-contract terms, he'd been having to play at less than 100%? Because he couldn't afford a career-ending injury whilst out of contract?

And I have no issue with that approach. I fully understand it. But it doesn't gel with this week's story does it?

[Donny Exile in York]

Given the woeful performance of Wellens and the rest of the team at York and our league position and his desire to leave earlier in the season.. i would say he would be better off keeping a low profile and let some better performances and results do the talking.. not to mention there is a fine line between younger players being too soft and Wellens just moaning and berating other players for his own decline in pace and performance in recent times..

[drfchound]

Evina and Wellens were our best players at York.
No one was great admittedly but those two were the best two and at least Richie was wanting the ball all the time and making himself available.
There is so much crap spouted on here about him of late.

[NickDRFC]

Drfchound, whilst I agree that there is a lot of crap spouted on here of late, I think that what has got people's backs up is his comment about commitment and effort. For all his talent, both of those have been lacking in the past 18 months, and particularly this season so far.

[Donny Exile in York]

Wellens did play well imho for the firstbtike this season against Barnsley.. seemed deeper in midfield and could spray the passes about and not have to move about alot.. against York ineffective and toothless like the rest..

[drfchound]

Can't agree about him at York.
He was the only one who wanted the ball all the time and was giving it all for the cause.
I agree that nothing came off but not for lack of effort by RW.
Regarding the previous games, he was also very good against Swindon.