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eastender

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Re: Questions need to be asked...
« Reply #60 on May 02, 2017, 10:05:24 am by eastender »
We're not good enough for the playoffs yet the team in the final places of the playoffs have 17 points less than us, have won 8 games less than us and have scored 18 fewer goals than us.

The team your quoting also took 6 points off us and knocked us out of the Trick or treat trophy.
We've only beaten 2 of the top 7 (6 not including us) in a poor league.
We need to strengthen big time if were to compete in the top half of L1.



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drfc1951

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Re: Questions need to be asked...
« Reply #61 on May 02, 2017, 10:50:14 am by drfc1951 »
Why is it every time we get a promotion from whatever league ,people always say its a poor league.Trying to discredit us?

eastender

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Re: Questions need to be asked...
« Reply #62 on May 02, 2017, 11:03:11 am by eastender »
Why is it every time we get a promotion from whatever league ,people always say its a poor league.Trying to discredit us?

Do you think it is a good standard ?

I personally think the standard is way down on what we saw last season in L1.

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Re: Questions need to be asked...
« Reply #63 on May 02, 2017, 01:30:51 pm by Chris Black come back »
It is less important whether a league is poor or not, it is far more important whether as a club you have below average, average or above average resources for that league. I am afraid that resources are still the biggest guide towards footballing success.

We are easily one of the biggest if not the biggest budget in this league and yet we have limped over the line and failed to beat the majority of our promotion peers.

You have to ask whether with these resources the manager is adding sufficient extra value or not. SOD for instance had literally no resources in the Championship yet he for several seasons personally added significant value to keep us up. Likewise Saunders with a fairly limited budget and massive disruption managed to get a team together that was immediately challenging for the title in League One.

With the huge resources we have relative to most other teams in this league, perhaps folk might think we should have performed just that little better these last few games?

graingrover

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Re: Questions need to be asked...
« Reply #64 on May 02, 2017, 01:43:36 pm by graingrover »
I consider the signings of Marquis,Rowe,Baudry.Blaire,Houghton,Mason,Lawlor and Grant were the sign of a very good supportive Board and a manager who has the personality and clout to attract quality players . The club has a convincing Community Strategy that is also succeeding to add to our sustainablilty   

Susan Abbott

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Re: Questions need to be asked...
« Reply #65 on May 02, 2017, 01:51:46 pm by Susan Abbott »
About the bizarre collapse in form since promotion was guaranteed.

We had the title squarely in our own hands and it's bitterly disappointing how they managed to cock it up.

Yes, promotion is fantastic but it's worrying that we can't seem to seal the deal...

Wtf is going on?
Reliance on  loan signing i.e. Jordan Houghton who has not played over the same period. Average players suffering from fatigue and carrying  injuries   gam after game and over all lack of depth in the squad . Lessens for sure have been learned but it will be require deeper pockets next season to over come repeating the same deficiencies i.e. early injuries and reliance  of requirement for long term loans .


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oggycompton

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Re: Questions need to be asked...
« Reply #66 on May 02, 2017, 01:54:10 pm by oggycompton »
I thought we were awful. Strange to tinker with a new formation in a game like that.

I thought Exeter were excellent up and down the pitch.

Marquis has been poor for nigh on a month now, Grant... not sure what he is supposed to do but whatever it is he's doing it wrong. Defensively bar Butler we looked very frail indeed especially out wide. Coppinger bar the goal did nothing.

Very disappointing to be honest, really poor performance for the third home game on the trot.

dickos1

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Re: Questions need to be asked...
« Reply #67 on May 02, 2017, 06:26:01 pm by dickos1 »
It is less important whether a league is poor or not, it is far more important whether as a club you have below average, average or above average resources for that league. I am afraid that resources are still the biggest guide towards footballing success.

We are easily one of the biggest if not the biggest budget in this league and yet we have limped over the line and failed to beat the majority of our promotion peers.

You have to ask whether with these resources the manager is adding sufficient extra value or not. SOD for instance had literally no resources in the Championship yet he for several seasons personally added significant value to keep us up. Likewise Saunders with a fairly limited budget and massive disruption managed to get a team together that was immediately challenging for the title in League One.

With the huge resources we have relative to most other teams in this league, perhaps folk might think we should have performed just that little better these last few games?

Limped over the line??
Give over, 5 games to spare is limping over the line?
First side in the country to gain promotion is limping over the line?

Only doncaster fans could find something to moan about after the season we've had.

We're above Pompey, who have been here years and spent more money than us and not long ago won the fa cup

You don't see their forum full of miserable negative moaners.

If you can't be happy with winning promotion with 5 games to spare then you're doing the wrong thing on a sat afternoon I'm afraid

roversontheup

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Re: Questions need to be asked...
« Reply #68 on May 02, 2017, 08:31:44 pm by roversontheup »
I understand people's frustration with the lack of points since we achieved promotion but....... do you think we can just enjoy winning promotion for a bit longer before all the doom and gloom starts. We might even be champions on Saturday.

I'm not saying you don't have a right to hold a post mortem but let's enjoy our promotion a bit longer and see what happens on Saturday first.

drfchound

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Re: Questions need to be asked...
« Reply #69 on May 02, 2017, 10:10:20 pm by drfchound »
The reality is that if we had made a late run to actually achieve promotion and then finished second or third, everyone would be happy.
Because for some months now we have looked stitched on for promotion and more recently, stitched on for the title, massive disappointment has set in.
Very obviously we are all happy to be going up but no one can be surprised at supporters being upset at not clinching the title.
The players and staff will be feeling the same and I wouldn't be surprised if there has been a few arguments about this in the camp.

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Re: Questions need to be asked...
« Reply #70 on May 02, 2017, 10:14:09 pm by Chris Black come back »
It is less important whether a league is poor or not, it is far more important whether as a club you have below average, average or above average resources for that league. I am afraid that resources are still the biggest guide towards footballing success.

We are easily one of the biggest if not the biggest budget in this league and yet we have limped over the line and failed to beat the majority of our promotion peers.

You have to ask whether with these resources the manager is adding sufficient extra value or not. SOD for instance had literally no resources in the Championship yet he for several seasons personally added significant value to keep us up. Likewise Saunders with a fairly limited budget and massive disruption managed to get a team together that was immediately challenging for the title in League One.

With the huge resources we have relative to most other teams in this league, perhaps folk might think we should have performed just that little better these last few games?

Limped over the line??
Give over, 5 games to spare is limping over the line?
First side in the country to gain promotion is limping over the line?

Only doncaster fans could find something to moan about after the season we've had.

We're above Pompey, who have been here years and spent more money than us and not long ago won the fa cup

You don't see their forum full of miserable negative moaners.

If you can't be happy with winning promotion with 5 games to spare then you're doing the wrong thing on a sat afternoon I'm afraid

It was our manager who set the goal of winning the title, not me. He set the goal and then pretty much lost every single game since. Perhaps worth considering this point? He has himself said he is bitterly disappointed with the end of season collapse.

swintonrover

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Re: Questions need to be asked...
« Reply #71 on May 02, 2017, 11:38:35 pm by swintonrover »
Liverpool haven't lost a game to any of the top 6 in the Prem this year; fat lot of good it's done them.
We had to hit a bad run eventually, just a shame it's happened so close to the finishing line.

dickos1

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Re: Questions need to be asked...
« Reply #72 on May 03, 2017, 12:15:39 am by dickos1 »
It is less important whether a league is poor or not, it is far more important whether as a club you have below average, average or above average resources for that league. I am afraid that resources are still the biggest guide towards footballing success.

We are easily one of the biggest if not the biggest budget in this league and yet we have limped over the line and failed to beat the majority of our promotion peers.

You have to ask whether with these resources the manager is adding sufficient extra value or not. SOD for instance had literally no resources in the Championship yet he for several seasons personally added significant value to keep us up. Likewise Saunders with a fairly limited budget and massive disruption managed to get a team together that was immediately challenging for the title in League One.

With the huge resources we have relative to most other teams in this league, perhaps folk might think we should have performed just that little better these last few games?

Limped over the line??
Give over, 5 games to spare is limping over the line?
First side in the country to gain promotion is limping over the line?

Only doncaster fans could find something to moan about after the season we've had.

We're above Pompey, who have been here years and spent more money than us and not long ago won the fa cup

You don't see their forum full of miserable negative moaners.

If you can't be happy with winning promotion with 5 games to spare then you're doing the wrong thing on a sat afternoon I'm afraid

It was our manager who set the goal of winning the title, not me. He set the goal and then pretty much lost every single game since. Perhaps worth considering this point? He has himself said he is bitterly disappointed with the end of season collapse.

Winning the title is a different matter, you stated we've limped over the line. We pissed it over the line. Probably the most comfortable promotion we've ever achieved.

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Re: Questions need to be asked...
« Reply #73 on May 03, 2017, 09:00:31 am by Chris Black come back »
"the line" being end of the season of course, which is when games traditionally stop being played.

 

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