germany's refugee problems and brexit

[George Carter]

A country close to my heart as I spend time in Germany through work commitments and unfortunately I can say it's gone downhill over the past few years,, IMO because of Angela Merkel's open door policy to refugees.

IMO,, there's a big fear of migrants in many German towns and cities nowadays compared to this time only three years ago. I remember my first trips over there to Frankfurt and Cologne about 10 years back and I always found the Germans to be a really warm and welcoming bunch on the whole.   You'd get the odd idiot but they were game for a laugh and always made a point of asking after our scores and I even got some of them glued to us back when we beat Leeds and were in the championship and Bayern munich copied our kit.

Last week I was on a trip to Duisburg and dusseldorf and got talking to an old friend who was explaining that many refugees purportedly from syria and that way on still havent been registered and have been in temporary accomodation ever since they arrived over a year ago.. Certain areas in towns have become no-go zones,, and refugees leering,, jumping out and frightening females,, attacks and petty crimes have gone up tenfold and its a trend right throughout the country..

He says a lot of cities which once welcomed refugees now don't want anymore because of these regular attacks and there's a resentment building up to both Merkel and the refugees because the locals don't feel safe in their own town anymore.

We got onto talking of cologne and a root cause of those attacks was not long since revealed to be due to the local council offering employment to the refugees for the new year celebrations. Many of them were security guards or safety wardens for the night but they either didn't like taking instructions or couldn't hack it,, so just gave up on the spot and went and sexually attacked or raped women in the square next to the main koln hbf.. yet still now only something like 20 of 2000 suspects in cologne have faced charges.

All this got me thinking about how lucky we are in this country in a few years time where we'll be able to properly control our borders and not be taken in as much by the refugees.. Germany is changing and not necessarily for the better as the refugees are followed by a merry band of single men who don't understand western values. Thank fcuk we won't let a lot of them in our country and we can get to grips with putting our country first and don't have a leader like Angela merkel.

[roversdude]

Don't worry someone will be along to tell you it's not really happening and that immigration is not a problem

[Dagenham Rover]

Don't worry someone will be along to tell you it's not really happening and that immigration is not a problem

I could probably have an educated guess as to which posters

[George Carter]

I expect someone to quote various articles to back up his point telling us were all safe and refugees don't pose any threats for us.. Whilst I sympathise with the genuine refugees,, there's a band of single men following them into Germany and other countries has done more harm than good and nobody appears to have got a grip on it...

That's not to mention the economic migrants who have flooded the UK to take low skilled jobs,, putting genuine british people out of work but thats a debate for another time.

[wilts rover]

If it wasn't for refugees from Germany no-one on this site would be English...

And we control our borders now as regards 'refugees' and non-EU citizens. In my opinion leaving the EU will probably make the problem worse rather than better as the French will have less incentive to stop them.

Now if we only had Mad Mick back on the site with his machine guns...

[Bentley Bullet]

If it wasn't for refugees from Germany no-one on this site would be English...

And we control our borders now as regards 'refugees' and non-EU citizens. In my opinion leaving the EU will probably make the problem worse rather than better as the French will have less incentive to stop them.

Now if we only had Mad Mick back on the site with his machine guns...

source?

[not on facebook]

Fcuk me what a wosh of fresh air from that thread starter ,some stormtrooper telling us how it is .

Get your tin hat on George and have untold links to back your claims .

Broad shouldered and been thick skinned works wonders fella.

I bascially painted a similar picture that was happening in malmo sweden ,to be dis owned like a lepper.

Some fcuker will attempt to pull your poetry apart as they try to side step the issue .

Iam not going to add a single word as it's all been allready said .but if you don't mind I will pull up a lounger and a massive tub of pop corn
and sit back to admire .

[not on facebook]

Would I be right in thinking that ze Germans might not be happy with blighty since ze Englanders are leaving the EU ,as they was living on a pray that once all the refugees in Germany had gained full German passports that untold would fcuk off over to England.

[George Carter]

Yess,, lots of Germans or at least those who I speak to regularly wanted us to stay in the EU as they thought it would help take the strain off their own crisis once migration numbers reduced.   But like anyone they know that once news of what happened in Cologne and freiburg and Hamburg started spreading overseas,, the chances of a Yes vote to leaving was always going to increase a bit..

If it wasn't for their banks benefitting so much because of the EU,, I'd say it would be 50/50 if they had a vote over whether they would leave or remain but that's just my opinion.

Probably The biggest regret a lot of my friends have is when it became an endless stream of refugees being put together in one place in that town or city.. A few families here and there,, mixed in with locals they would be happy with as they can integrate more with the people around them but by putting them all together,, its caused more problems than good..

It'll only be a matter of time before it kicks off in some major city and there is a massive backlash or some radical nutjob goes into a major hbf and blows himself up,, but thats a result of Mrs Merkel's unlimited welcome all policy for you.

[wilts rover]

If it wasn't for refugees from Germany no-one on this site would be English...

And we control our borders now as regards 'refugees' and non-EU citizens. In my opinion leaving the EU will probably make the problem worse rather than better as the French will have less incentive to stop them.

Now if we only had Mad Mick back on the site with his machine guns...

source?

If Marmite Mick's involved it's around 57 varieties...

[not on facebook]

I have seen signs on the oslo underground system in the tube trains written in Arabic and other languages offering immigrants a payment to return back home to the country's that they claimed asylum from.

Was speaking to a to a chap from Scotland who had been working and paying full tax in oslo for last 15 years but now he lost his job last year.

So he was able to claim the noggy dole money .after been on the dole for 3 month he went into his local nav office ( dole office ) to ask about what they can do to help him find another job .

any immigrant that gets asylum in Norway can apply for free driving lessons and tests .

Immigrants can go on a work placement for 3 months where nav still pay them their dole money and the comoany don't pay a bean.

 All Immigrants will get a free Norsk lanuage course .

Immirgrants can apply for a free fork lift truck course.


So jimmy 1st asked nav for a free driving lessons course as the embassy from Canada had an opening > nav said NO

He then asked for a Norsk course to better his Norsk > nav said NO

He then asked for a work placement as he found a company that would be happy to take him a 3 month work placement trail > nav said NO to 3 month and only offered a 1 month work placement but the comoany had to take him on after that month.


He then asked for a fork lift truck course > nav said he would have to pay for it himself.


This I kid you not .

[George Carter]

I have seen signs on the oslo underground system in the tube trains written in Arabic and other languages offering immigrants a payment to return back home to the country's that they claimed asylum from.

Was speaking to a to a chap from Scotland who had been working and paying full tax in oslo for last 15 years but now he lost his job last year.

So he was able to claim the noggy dole money .after been on the dole for 3 month he went into his local nav office ( dole office ) to ask about what they can do to help him find another job .

any immigrant that gets asylum in Norway can apply for free driving lessons and tests .

Immigrants can go on a work placement for 3 months where nav still pay them their dole money and the comoany don't pay a bean.

 All Immigrants will get a free Norsk lanuage course .

Immirgrants can apply for a free fork lift truck course.


So jimmy 1st asked nav for a free driving lessons course as the embassy from Canada had an opening > nav said NO

He then asked for a Norsk course to better his Norsk > nav said NO

He then asked for a work placement as he found a company that would be happy to take him a 3 month work placement trail > nav said NO to 3 month and only offered a 1 month work placement but the comoany had to take him on after that month.


He then asked for a fork lift truck course > nav said he would have to pay for it himself.


This I kid you not .

In some German cities as a result of Cologne and Hamburg and to a lesser extent Freiburg and Bonn, there offering free sex education courses to young male refugees to teach them that a woman dressed in a skirt or in a low cut top is doing that through her own choice and its not an invitation for them to go and rape her or sexually touch her up.

That as well as free language courses,, and the powers that be in the Reichstag offering free money for some of them refugees to fcuk off back home.

[Sprotyrover]

Don't worry someone will be along to tell you it's not really happening and that immigration is not a problem

Someone  else will want to see a graph as evidence of the truth of this,and you will also have to post a pic of a bottle of Sauce

[Bentley Bullet]

Don't worry someone will be along to tell you it's not really happening and that immigration is not a problem

Someone  else will want to see a graph as evidence of the truth of this,and you will also have to post a pic of a bottle of Sauce

And even then it will be disregarded as a racist article from a right wing sauce....

[Sprotyrover]

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