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Dutch Uncle
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Looking forward and back
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Looking back, if it weren’t for those late goals conceded against Oxford and Oldham DF would be hot favourite for Manager of the Month. Maybe a blessing in disguise there.
Our next four League matches are very very tough - away at Peterborough, Scunthorpe and Shrewsbury, and home to improved Plymouth who are good away from home. The first of those four matches will be a good test of how we might fare. We might yet be very glad about our last three wins.
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BillyStubbsTears
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December 30, 2017, 10:05:38 am
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Dutch
Question for you. How does 2017 rank in terms of points won in a calendar year? I guess 2003 must be close to the best we’ve ever had but I’m struggling to think of other years which combined half of a promotion season and a top ten half of a season.
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DonnyBazR0ver
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December 30, 2017, 10:07:59 am
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Well, if we look at these reverse fixtures, each of those teams 'nicked' results off us at the Keepmoat when we were a match for them, so let's do the same to them! No pressure on us.
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Dutch Uncle
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December 30, 2017, 10:17:07 am
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Good question, and 2003 is an obvious candidate. Although 47-48 was a relegation season, 46-47 was so astounding it might be closer than we might think.
And 1969 is a possibly to be better - we were flying until just before Christmas.
Another possibility would be just missing out on promotion one season, and winning it the next season. Long time ago, but 48-49 and 49-50 might be good.
Also we were second in consecutive seasons just before WW2.
Have a busy day with visitors, but will check later, both 2 and 3 points per win.
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The Red Baron
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December 30, 2017, 02:57:03 pm
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This is our record in 2017
https://mobile.twitter.com/League1Podcast/status/947101811298709504?p=v
My money would be on 1969, or possibly 1934.
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Dutch Uncle
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December 30, 2017, 04:24:20 pm
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A quick look shows it is a close run thing. There are differing numbers for games played in a season (42 or 46) and more differing numbers in half a season. The only sensible measure is points per game, and I give below some of our best calendar years (I have not checked all years - might be good for a future Fanzine article), showing games played, points won at 2 per win, points won at 3 per win, points per game at 2 per win and points per game at 3 per win:
1934: 41 matches, 57/81 points, ppg 1.390/1.976
1935: 45 matches, 58/85 points, ppg 1.289/1.889
1938: 45 matches, 58/79 points, ppg 1.289/1.756
1947: 45 matches, 51/72 points, ppg 1.133/1.699
1949: 42 matches, 54/75 points, ppg 1.286/1.786
1969: 46 matches, 59/80 points, ppg 1.283/1.739
2003: 41 matches, 55/79 points, ppg 1.341/1.927
2017: 48 matches, 52/72 points, ppg 1.083/1.500
There might be a better year somewhere that I have not yet checked (I think 2009 might be surprisingly good for example), but probably at both 2 and 3 points per win, 1934 is best, followed by 2003 and then 1935.
Good call TRB.
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BillyStubbsTears
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December 30, 2017, 04:50:45 pm
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Just been checking a few
2017 (Ta TRB)
P48 W20 D12 L16 PPG(All at 3pts for win)1.50
2004
P46 W20 D15 L11 PPG 1.63
2003
P41 W24 D7 L10 PPG 1.93
1984
P46 W22 D10 L14 PPG 1.65
1981
P37 W17 D11 L9 PPG 1.68
1969
P44 W21 D17 L7 PPG 1.82
1949
P42 W21 D12 L9 PPG 1.79
1947
P44 W21 D9 L14 PPG 1.64
1934
P41 W24 D9 L8 PPG 1.98
So 2017 is not quite in the top eschelon, but it’s still been a pretty good year by historical standards. There might be one or two other years which match it, but it’s probably been in our top 10 or so calendar years in our history.
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graingrover
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17th end of year to Promotion in May 2007/2008 like this !
Sat Dec 22 League 1 Crewe Alexandra Away Won 4-0
Wed Dec 26 League 1 Northampton Town Home Won 2-0
Sat Dec 29 League 1 Southend United Home Won 3-1
Tue Jan 1 League 1 Walsall Away Drew 1-1
Sat Jan 12 League 1 Carlisle United Home Won 1-0
Sat Jan 19 League 1 Leeds United Away Won 1-0
Fri Jan 25 League 1 Swansea City Home Lost 0-4
Tue Jan 29 League 1 Hartlepool United Home Won 2-0
Sat Feb 2 League 1 Millwall Away Won 3-0
Sat Feb 9 League 1 Bristol Rovers Home Won 2-0
Tue Feb 12 League 1 Bournemouth Away Won 2-0
Sat Feb 23 League 1 Carlisle United Away Lost 0-1
Sat Mar 1 League 1 Tranmere Rovers Away Won 1-0
Tue Mar 4 League 1 Bristol Rovers Away Won 1-0
Sat Mar 8 League 1 Port Vale Home Won 2-1
Tue Mar 11 League 1 Gillingham Home Won 2-1
Sat Mar 15 League 1 Brighton & Hove Albion Away Lost 0-1
Fri Mar 21 League 1 Yeovil Town Away Lost 1-2
Mon Mar 24 League 1 Oldham Athletic Home Drew 1-1
Fri Mar 28 League 1 Nottingham Forest Home Won 1-0
Tue Apr 1 League 1 Leeds United Home Lost 0-1
Sat Apr 5 League 1 Huddersfield Town Away Drew 2-2
Fri Apr 11 League 1 Swindon Town Home Won 2-0
Sat Apr 19 League 1 Leyton Orient Away Drew 1-1
Sat Apr 26 League 1 Luton Town Home Won 2-0
Sat May 3 League 1 Cheltenham Town Away Lost 1-2
Fri May 9 PO Semi - 1 Leg Southend United Away Drew 0-0
Fri May 16 PO Semi - 2 Leg Southend United Home Won 5-1 (5-1 aggregate)
Sun May 25 PO Final Leeds United Wembley Won 1-0
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