May

[GazLaz]

What I don't get is why every time he receives the ball, his instinct is to turn away from goal. After last night the myth of Alfie having pace can be laid to rest.

I got slaughtered for saying May was slow last season. Could see he was after a couple of games.

[selby]

  Ah , the old let's ignore the chekatrade trophy games, BB I admire your loyalty, the fact is May is not good enough, and has not tha footballing ability of Mandeville.
  And now teams know what he is about it will get worse, at one stage last night a Wimbledon player collected the ball out wide left, he left May standing, and took six yards out of him in twenty five while carrying the ball.
   He  is too small, too slow, does not get in the box, needs s touch before getting a shot off, and is reluctant to shoot when on his left foot and has to turn inside, and cannot play with Marquis.
   BB have you a stat for going past a marker? I cannot remember him doing it a lot.

[rtid88]

Mandeville isn't any better though if we want to progress next year, one of a number that need to go if we want to make play offs.

[Bentley Bullet]

Reluctant to shoot with his left foot? All our players are reluctant to shoot with either foot!

Selby, your obsession with trying to make out Mandeville's great by rubbishing May is not only clutching at straws, it's also embarrassing, not to mention inaccurate.

[Alan Southstand]

Mandeville still hasn't found his level. He can't get in an average L2 team, so what's the point in persisting with a player who, imho, is already lacking in the attitude and fitness departments?

May, for all his willingness, is quite simply not meeting the standard required for this league. He was ok in league 2, but has been found wanting at the level we're at. If we are to progress, we need much better than either of them. And what I have seen of Kiwomya and Beestin, I could say the same for those two. I would keep the latter 2 but the clock is ticking.

My absolute necessities for next season are 1 cb, 2 wide midfielders and a striker. Anything less and I think we are in for another so-so season, or worse!

[selby]

  BB as my wife would say, you cannot embarrass me for saying what I think, people who know me will tell you the same no doubt, Mandeville is a better player, that is my opinion, and I can remember some disparaging comments of yours, RJ, and others about Mandeville, no doubt if you look back at your posts they are still there to see, so get on with having the moral high ground if you want to.
  If being embarrassed is your thing, just look back at your post on Alfies performance last night. You were the only one in the ground including our manager that thought Alfie did anything right apart from remembering to put his shorts on before the game started.

[DonnyOsmond]

Mandeville is technically better than 90% of our other players. Whether he wants to do anything with that though has yet to be seen.

[Alan Southstand]

Mandeville is technically better than 90% of our other players.

Our other players must be really bad, then!

[RedJ]

  BB as my wife would say, you cannot embarrass me for saying what I think, people who know me will tell you the same no doubt, Mandeville is a better player, that is my opinion, and I can remember some disparaging comments of yours, RJ, and others about Mandeville, no doubt if you look back at your posts they are still there to see, so get on with having the moral high ground if you want to.
  If being embarrassed is your thing, just look back at your post on Alfies performance last night. You were the only one in the ground including our manager that thought Alfie did anything right apart from remembering to put his shorts on before the game started.

Couldn't give a toss about the moral high ground mate. I'm not sure why you pulled me into it when it wasn't me who said the things you're responded to?

[DonnyOsmond]

Mandeville is technically better than 90% of our other players.

Our other players must be really bad, then!

You don't think Mandeville can do more with the ball at his feet than Marquis, May, Williams, etc?

[MachoMadness]

At present I'd keep May for another season. He's a tryer and you always need one of those to run defenders ragged. However if he doesn't add any more polish to his game over the next season I'd let him go.
Mandy is gifted but what's he done at Colchester? At some point he has to turn his potential into reality. He's had ample chances to at 2 different clubs now and done very little. Don't see how you could justify keeping him even as one for the future at this point. I said when he went out on loan is was the right decision so we could evaluate where he's at with some game time, but he's barely got any game time at a bang average league 2 team which says a lot.

[Campsall rover]

Beestin;       Goals scored 2 (one every 779 mins)
                   Minutes played - 1558
                   Assists - 4
                   Shots on target - 50% (7/14)

Kiwomya;     Goals scored 1 (one every 533 mins)
                   Minutes played - 533
                   Assists - 1
                   Shots on target - 100% (4/4)

Mandeville;  Goals scored 2 (one every 335 mins)
                   Minutes played - 669
                   Assists - 0
                   Shots on target 45% (5/11)

May;            Goals scored 6 (one every 258 mins)
                   Minutes played - 1550
                   Assists - 2
                   Shots on target - 63% (22/35)

BB please say yes or no. Is Alfie May good enough fo this league. Yes or no

[DonnyOsmond]

At present I'd keep May for another season. He's a tryer and you always need one of those to run defenders ragged. However if he doesn't add any more polish to his game over the next season I'd let him go.
Mandy is gifted but what's he done at Colchester? At some point he has to turn his potential into reality. He's had ample chances to at 2 different clubs now and done very little. Don't see how you could justify keeping him even as one for the future at this point. I said when he went out on loan is was the right decision so we could evaluate where he's at with some game time, but he's barely got any game time at a bang average league 2 team which says a lot.

That's how I feel about Mandy. His ability is ahead of our players but if he's not performing to the standards he can then it's pointless being here and it's a waste of wages.

[swintonrover]

I find it odd throwing Beestin in the strikers category. He's the heir to Copps throne, as the attacking playmaker.

[DonnyOsmond]

I find it odd throwing Beestin in the strikers category. He's the heir to Copps throne, as the attacking playmaker.

Exactamundo.

[Bentley Bullet]

Beestin;       Goals scored 2 (one every 779 mins)
                   Minutes played - 1558
                   Assists - 4
                   Shots on target - 50% (7/14)

Kiwomya;     Goals scored 1 (one every 533 mins)
                   Minutes played - 533
                   Assists - 1
                   Shots on target - 100% (4/4)

Mandeville;  Goals scored 2 (one every 335 mins)
                   Minutes played - 669
                   Assists - 0
                   Shots on target 45% (5/11)

May;            Goals scored 6 (one every 258 mins)
                   Minutes played - 1550
                   Assists - 2
                   Shots on target - 63% (22/35)

BB please say yes or no. Is Alfie May good enough fo this league. Yes or no

For Rovers in this league, YES, as the squad is now.

[Campsall rover]

Beestin;       Goals scored 2 (one every 779 mins)
                   Minutes played - 1558
                   Assists - 4
                   Shots on target - 50% (7/14)

Kiwomya;     Goals scored 1 (one every 533 mins)
                   Minutes played - 533
                   Assists - 1
                   Shots on target - 100% (4/4)

Mandeville;  Goals scored 2 (one every 335 mins)
                   Minutes played - 669
                   Assists - 0
                   Shots on target 45% (5/11)

May;            Goals scored 6 (one every 258 mins)
                   Minutes played - 1550
                   Assists - 2
                   Shots on target - 63% (22/35)

BB please say yes or no. Is Alfie May good enough fo this league. Yes or no

For Rovers in this league, YES.

Well you are entitled to your opinion of course. Think you are in a large minority with that opinion.
He seems to be going backwards in his development. If DF keeps him as he is still under contract then it will be make or break next season. I hope you are right but fear you will not be. Seen nothing this season that tells me he is anything more than National league standard at best.

[Bentley Bullet]

I've never said I'm not susceptible to being wrong. I'm fully aware that there's always a first time.

[MachoMadness]

I find it odd throwing Beestin in the strikers category. He's the heir to Copps throne, as the attacking playmaker.

I remember Copps being mistakenly lumped in as a striker for a good few years, so it's bang on in that regard!

[selby]

   RJ, just chiming in mate as you wanted last night while I was in the pub, and I know you can't give a toss.

[rtid88]

I find it odd throwing Beestin in the strikers category. He's the heir to Copps throne, as the attacking playmaker.

I hope not! I like the lad but he is far from Copps standard imo. His footwork is very good but he struggles to take a man on and can't cross so in that sense is a totally different kind of player to Copps.

[DonnyOsmond]

Coppinger can cross?

[steve@dcfd]

I find it odd throwing Beestin in the strikers category. He's the heir to Copps throne, as the attacking playmaker.

I hope not! I like the lad but he is far from Copps standard imo. His footwork is very good but he struggles to take a man on and can't cross so in that sense is a totally different kind of player to Copps.

Long way to go if he going to take Copps place. Like Copps though does not score enough goals at this level. Next season should be second string player. We need better.

[Jonathan]

Too early to compare Beestin to Coppinger, who is one of our greatest ever players. I don’t think the comparison is ever fair on anyone as we can’t replace Copps, we’ll just have to adjust without him (hopefully not yet)

I like Beestin though, he’s got a lot of talent and he’s going to be a really good player.  Very harsh of anyone to pick on his performance last night given he started at left wing back. Madness.

[DonnyOsmond]

Too early to compare Beestin to Coppinger, who is one of our greatest ever players. I don’t think the comparison is ever fair on anyone as we can’t replace Copps, we’ll just have to adjust without him (hopefully not yet)

I like Beestin though, he’s got a lot of talent and he’s going to be a really good player.  Very harsh of anyone to pick on his performance last night given he started at left wing back. Madness.

That's the problem with todays fans, they write off young players after a couple quiet games even one that averages the most assists per starts at the club.

[Cantley Rover]

How old is Beestin?
How many games has he played.
Some of you lot are bloody ridiculous. Do you want instant success or aren't young players to be allowed to develop into good players?

[rtid88]

Not convinced anyone has said they want instant success. Just that he isn't imo a comparable player to Copps in terms of his characteristics as a player. Copps has played the majority of his career playing on the wings. Whereas from the evidence I have seen so far Beestin is not suited to that sort of role.

[Bentley Bullet]

  BB as my wife would say, you cannot embarrass me for saying what I think, people who know me will tell you the same no doubt, Mandeville is a better player, that is my opinion, and I can remember some disparaging comments of yours, RJ, and others about Mandeville, no doubt if you look back at your posts they are still there to see, so get on with having the moral high ground if you want to.
  If being embarrassed is your thing, just look back at your post on Alfies performance last night. You were the only one in the ground including our manager that thought Alfie did anything right apart from remembering to put his shorts on before the game started.

Selby, show me any disparaging comments I've made about Mandeville.

[sedwardsdrfc]

Beestin will be quality just needs a bit more time and some better players around him to help him come on he's still very young

[les@donr]

Keep May next season. Send him out on loan pre-Christmas to a L2 or Nat. Prem club to see how he does.