Club doncaster

[pib]

Anyone else worried that we can not compete with Fleetwood regarding wages

No because they could be spending well above their means to get there players

Well said Dave.

I didn't realise this was a competition to see who could spend more money on an average left back.

he was not average last season, and of he was average why did we offer him a contract in the first place.

He was very poor at the beginning of the season. He improved as the season went on and finished better than he started. That makes him average over the length of the season. We offered him a contract based on him being an improving left back, which is why we gave him an improved contract.

But your point, that we can't compete with Fleetwood on wages, is just poppycock, based on nothing other than we cancelled negotiations with a player because he prevaricated for far too long.

And maybe also that Morris has signed for them over us?

And Charlton and Portsmouth, if you believe the reports linking us with him. Does that mean Charlton and Portsmouth can't compete with Fleetwood on wages too?

[silent majority]

He dint try to sell us to a hedge fund, he was bringing them in has financial support

No, no, no, Dave.

So wrong!

he dint own the club to try and sell it but people just forget what he did for the people of Doncaster and only remember that he was saying he was seeking legal advice on some slandering him and I don't blame him

But that's not right either Dave, we received solicitors letters because we had the cheek to ask questions of their intentions. The same questions were asked of David Blunt and he answered them all.

But threatening to make me bankrupt and take my house off me because I asked some questions isn't right either.

[the vicar]

As I said there was things said on both sides that was not good. I know all on the vsc don't like Jr but in fairness he did save the club and gave us all a lot of great times and that should never be forgotten do you agree Martin

[Filo]

As I saib there was things said on both sides that was not good. I know all on the vsc don't like Jr but in fairness he did save the club and gave us all a lot of great times and that should never be forgotten do you agree Martin

I think you are trying to convince yourself, no oneis disputing whhat he did in the early days

[silent majority]

As I saib there was things said on both sides that was not good. I know all on the vsc don't like Jr but in fairness he did save the club and gave us all a lot of great times and that should never be forgotten do you agree Martin

I don't think anybody's disputing that Dave. And as I've posted on here before I thought he could walk on water where this club was concerned. But all that changed, he stopped doing things for the club and started to do it for himself. And without the current owners there would not have been a Wembley appearance and Championship football.

[the vicar]

And who brought them in Martin another good foresight by him.  But I have no complaints about the board now, I did have when two of them said to me and 5 others that they wanted to be in league 2 where we could be sustainable and that is fact, but now they are doing a good job for me

[silent majority]

And who brought them in Martin another good foresight by him.  But I have no complaints about the board now, I did have when two of them said to me and 5 others that they wanted to be in league 2 where we could be sustainable and that is fact, but now they are doing a good job for me

No argument from me Dave, I agree with you.

[the vicar]

OK Martin see you next season maybe have a drink

[NickDRFC]

Silent majority - I’ve read the accounts, both for Rovers & Club Doncaster, and cant see anywhere that mentions commercial revenue being higher than ST revenue. Can you please provide a link if I’m missing something?

If you've read the accounts Nick then you should be able to see it, it's quite clearly there. It's a subject we've discussed often with the club, and certainly at Supporter Board meetings where the financials have been disclosed to the board. Our income mirrors in many ways the incomes at EPL clubs, where the main income is made up of 3 parts, broadcast income, gate receipts and commercial income. These 3 are similar percentages. When the VSC has done its analysis of each years accounts we've always commented on the performance of the commercial team at the club. The solidarity payments, from the EPL and EFL are also higher than gate receipts, which show how worried most clubs of our size should be if, God forbid, that income dried up through something like the creation of a European Super League, for example.

Hi SM, sorry for such a slow response on here - I've been on holiday and not had a chance to reply fully. Given that we haven't had an income statement since the financial year ending June 2015 as the accounts are now published as a small company (link I'm looking at below), I'm not quite sure what you're seeing that I'm not - there's no turnover let alone any segmental information. Ditto no revenue information in the Club Doncaster accounts.

Doncaster Rovers Limited (Patienceform) accounts: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/03739676/filing-history

Club Doncaster Limited accounts: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08699464/filing-history

[dickos1]

Anyone else worried that we can not compete with Fleetwood regarding wages

No because they could be spending well above their means to get there players

Well said Dave.

I didn't realise this was a competition to see who could spend more money on an average left back.

he was not average last season, and of he was average why did we offer him a contract in the first place.

He was very poor at the beginning of the season. He improved as the season went on and finished better than he started. That makes him average over the length of the season. We offered him a contract based on him being an improving left back, which is why we gave him an improved contract.

But your point, that we can't compete with Fleetwood on wages, is just poppycock, based on nothing other than we cancelled negotiations with a player because he prevaricated for far too long.

And maybe also that Morris has signed for them over us?

And Charlton and Portsmouth, if you believe the reports linking us with him. Does that mean Charlton and Portsmouth can't compete with Fleetwood on wages too?

I never disputed that, I was just responding to it being said that the “only” reason people may think Fleetwood are spending bigger than us would be the Andrew scenario.
I was just pointing out another reason people may come to that conclusion, the fact they also beat off Pompey emphasises it even more so

[silent majority]

Anyone else worried that we can not compete with Fleetwood regarding wages

No because they could be spending well above their means to get there players

Well said Dave.

I didn't realise this was a competition to see who could spend more money on an average left back.

he was not average last season, and of he was average why did we offer him a contract in the first place.

He was very poor at the beginning of the season. He improved as the season went on and finished better than he started. That makes him average over the length of the season. We offered him a contract based on him being an improving left back, which is why we gave him an improved contract.

But your point, that we can't compete with Fleetwood on wages, is just poppycock, based on nothing other than we cancelled negotiations with a player because he prevaricated for far too long.

And maybe also that Morris has signed for them over us?

And Charlton and Portsmouth, if you believe the reports linking us with him. Does that mean Charlton and Portsmouth can't compete with Fleetwood on wages too?

I never disputed that, I was just responding to it being said that the “only” reason people may think Fleetwood are spending bigger than us would be the Andrew scenario.
I was just pointing out another reason people may come to that conclusion, the fact they also beat off Pompey emphasises it even more so

But that was wrong also, we never spoke to Morris, he was never on our radar.

[silent majority]

Silent majority - I’ve read the accounts, both for Rovers & Club Doncaster, and cant see anywhere that mentions commercial revenue being higher than ST revenue. Can you please provide a link if I’m missing something?

If you've read the accounts Nick then you should be able to see it, it's quite clearly there. It's a subject we've discussed often with the club, and certainly at Supporter Board meetings where the financials have been disclosed to the board. Our income mirrors in many ways the incomes at EPL clubs, where the main income is made up of 3 parts, broadcast income, gate receipts and commercial income. These 3 are similar percentages. When the VSC has done its analysis of each years accounts we've always commented on the performance of the commercial team at the club. The solidarity payments, from the EPL and EFL are also higher than gate receipts, which show how worried most clubs of our size should be if, God forbid, that income dried up through something like the creation of a European Super League, for example.

Hi SM, sorry for such a slow response on here - I've been on holiday and not had a chance to reply fully. Given that we haven't had an income statement since the financial year ending June 2015 as the accounts are now published as a small company (link I'm looking at below), I'm not quite sure what you're seeing that I'm not - there's no turnover let alone any segmental information. Ditto no revenue information in the Club Doncaster accounts.

Doncaster Rovers Limited (Patienceform) accounts: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/03739676/filing-history

Club Doncaster Limited accounts: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08699464/filing-history

Nick, When you said you'd seen the accounts I thought you meant 'the accounts', not the ones available on-line. I should stress then that the accounts I've seen clearly show the information as I've detailed before.

[NickDRFC]

In your initial response on this thread you said “Do you not read the accounts? It's all documented.” That to me suggested that the information is freely available, but the only public financial information that we have are the accounts filed on Companies House. If we just have to take your word for it then fair enough, you’d certainly be the person to trust, I was just a bit confused by the phrasing.