North Sea Coal

[idler]

We worked in the North East a lot in the 70s and 80s. There were always blokes pushing bikes about with bags of sea coal on. You also got wagons on the beaches collecting sea coal. Waste not want not.

[Sprotyrover]

If any of our posters are from the North East they will be able to confirm that quite a few of the NE collieries closed because of the travelling distance under the N Sea to reach the coal face. Easington I believe were 7-8 miles out it tokk too long to get the miners to the face.

Looks like they will use rigs to get the gas out not mines.

[ravenrover]

Agree, just making the point that there is plenty out there but too costly to reach with old mining methods

[albie]

4 new Gas turbines being built at Drax 🤔

Sproty,

The gas turbines at Drax are to replace coal fired generation.
The UK is committed to zero coal by 2025, so I don't see how this relates to the OP.

It is likely the Drax gas decision will be challenged in court, as it is not in keeping with UK carbon policies.

[roversdude]

If any of our posters are from the North East they will be able to confirm that quite a few of the NE collieries closed because of the travelling distance under the N Sea to reach the coal face. Easington I believe were 7-8 miles out it tokk too long to get the miners to the face.

Raven I did a paper on Easington as part of my degree, you are quite right there was a huge amount of travelling time

[Sprotyrover]

4 new Gas turbines being built at Drax 🤔

Sproty,

The gas turbines at Drax are to replace coal fired generation.
The UK is committed to zero coal by 2025, so I don't see how this relates to the OP.

It is likely the Drax gas decision will be challenged in court, as it is not in keeping with UK carbon policies.

According to Drax there is enough Natural Gas to last 250 years at today's consumption levels. But it in Norway and mostly Russia. The Govt has apparently invested £1 billion into the Nort east Coal gasification project watch this space.

[albie]

Well, if you have a reference for UK Gov investment it would help!

The UK position on removing coal from the energy mix is set out here:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/672137/Government_Response_to_unabated_coal_consultation_and_statement_of_policy.pdf

I can't see why they would then be supporting coal gasification with public subsidy, Sproty.

No-one is going to invest private capital into this without the prospect of a market and a return on investment. You can still apply for consent for such projects from government, but the economics are completely against it.

[Sprotyrover]

Well, if you have a reference for UK Gov investment it would help!

The UK position on removing coal from the energy mix is set out here:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/672137/Government_Response_to_unabated_coal_consultation_and_statement_of_policy.pdf

I can't see why they would then be supporting coal gasification with public subsidy, Sproty.

No-one is going to invest private capital into this without the prospect of a market and a return on investment. You can still apply for consent for such projects from government, but the economics are completely against it.

Well according to tonight's news it's happening the Gas turbines have been approved.

[DonnyOsmond]

Well, if you have a reference for UK Gov investment it would help!

The UK position on removing coal from the energy mix is set out here:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/672137/Government_Response_to_unabated_coal_consultation_and_statement_of_policy.pdf

I can't see why they would then be supporting coal gasification with public subsidy, Sproty.

No-one is going to invest private capital into this without the prospect of a market and a return on investment. You can still apply for consent for such projects from government, but the economics are completely against it.

Well according to tonight's news it's happening the Gas turbines have been approved.

This governments stuck two fingers up to climate change then.

[albie]

Sproty,

Are you talking about Drax;
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49960817

As it says, this is to replace coal.

What has this got to do with coal gasification under the North Sea?
I still don't understand where you got the idea of Government support for the North Sea coal gasification that you posted.

[Sprotyrover]

Sproty,

Are you talking about Drax;
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49960817

As it says, this is to replace coal.

What has this got to do with coal gasification under the North Sea?
I still don't understand where you got the idea of Government support for the North Sea coal gasification that you posted.

Albie I can't find the stuff I was looking at on Saturday but it seems that some Fossil fuels magnate called Algy Cluff was behind the plans and he had the licences for the off shore Coal Gasification Project off Northumberland, from what I can see the Govt pulled the Plug on their support and funding in 2016. Seems there have been some Gas fields discovered in the Znorth Sea which is why we are still building Gas power facilities.

[silent majority]

It won't happen, the government have already committed to replacing the gas network, and on new installations by 2025.

[Sprotyrover]

It won't happen, the government have already committed to replacing the gas network, and on new installations by 2025.

SM have you got a link to the info you posted relating to the govt initiative to replace fossil fuels in home that are off the Gas network.

[silent majority]

It won't happen, the government have already committed to replacing the gas network, and on new installations by 2025.

SM have you got a link to the info you posted relating to the govt initiative to replace fossil fuels in home that are off the Gas network.

As soon as I'm home I'll do it for you.

[selby]

  It looks like people are taking notice, a tractor pulling a full trailer of logs has just gone by, there will be no trees left at this rate.