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drfchound

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Re: Fans back in the ground
« Reply #30 on May 31, 2020, 08:20:26 pm by drfchound »
Fans from the same household could sit together of course but no closer than two metres to the people either side of them and in front and behind them.




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Re: Fans back in the ground
« Reply #31 on May 31, 2020, 11:17:08 pm by rich1471 »
Wouldn't bother us in the West stand, that's all we do anyway!  :chair:
would not have said you sat in the west stand

idler

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Re: Fans back in the ground
« Reply #32 on May 31, 2020, 11:54:28 pm by idler »
What about having to go to the toilet during a game? You would have to pass by people in the same row but two metres distant sideways but between you and the aisle. Most people also want to use the toilet at half time and at the end of the game.
There's no easy answer to maintaining a safe distance in a stadium.

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Re: Fans back in the ground
« Reply #33 on June 01, 2020, 09:18:52 am by ravenrover »
Not forgetting the mass exit at the end of the game unless of course we are losing and then half the ground is empty with10mins to go

DonnyBazR0ver

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Re: Fans back in the ground
« Reply #34 on June 01, 2020, 09:26:14 am by DonnyBazR0ver »
Instead of thinking reasons why it wouldn't work, think of reasons that could make it work.

We've got to get on with life as best we can and we all have responsibility to respect  people's space. I think the vast majority of people will act responsibly and I hope we'll see a return to watching football sooner rather than later. At the end of the day, it's not compulsory but it will be great to have the choice.

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Re: Fans back in the ground
« Reply #35 on June 01, 2020, 09:40:42 am by idler »
DBR, I always had my season ticket with an aisle seat. This meant I didn't disturb folk when needing the toilet but also so I could stretch my left leg down the aisle as it doesn't bend too far.
I have no problem getting up to let people in or out of the row as long as they are happy being close to me.

DonnyBazR0ver

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Re: Fans back in the ground
« Reply #36 on June 01, 2020, 12:14:52 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
I don't think you'd have a problem getting an aisle seat.

I think the only way to accommodate distancing would be to make it unreserved seating all around the ground. We can't be too precious about our own seats for a temporary measure.

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Re: Fans back in the ground
« Reply #37 on June 01, 2020, 02:38:25 pm by Axholme Lion »
If you follow certain clubs, you could take your wife and your sister with you, and only need two seats ;)

Leeds. Jimmy Saville plating wrong 'uns.

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Re: Fans back in the ground
« Reply #38 on June 01, 2020, 04:21:00 pm by Donnywolf »
Instead of thinking reasons why it wouldn't work, think of reasons that could make it work.

We've got to get on with life as best we can and we all have responsibility to respect  people's space. I think the vast majority of people will act responsibly and I hope we'll see a return to watching football sooner rather than later. At the end of the day, it's not compulsory but it will be great to have the choice.

Appreciate that DBR but if Rovers were at home tomorrow I wouldnt go.

Similary (sorry Landlords) and my Fav Chippy (Chips n Things Moorends) but I would not go anywhere like that either. I will be paranoid until the death rate is at a level I AM comfortable with and its far too high for me at the moment

raithy

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Re: Fans back in the ground
« Reply #39 on June 01, 2020, 04:29:17 pm by raithy »
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Padge_DRFC

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Re: Fans back in the ground
« Reply #40 on June 01, 2020, 06:01:58 pm by Padge_DRFC »
Isn't fans back in grounds the 5th phase well part of it Boris set out? Sure this if all goes to plan was end of August. Doubt next season would start until then if this one carried on.

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Re: Fans back in the ground
« Reply #41 on June 01, 2020, 06:47:11 pm by since-1969 »
With the ‘R’ rate falling from  1in40 to 1in1000 it is likely that steps to open stadiums with adjustments to capacities . When your seeing scenes of crowed beaches and no police obstacles to prevent this or fines handed out  all the signs are there that the public themselves want the lockdown lifted but with measures put in place where possible . Football has to be given its chance along with ALL sporting events to demonstrate that they can respond to the demands put on them and live stadium spectated  football is possible with crowds who are manly seated can keep a modicum of social distancing and sanitation protocols can be implemented and followed .

drfchound

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Re: Fans back in the ground
« Reply #42 on June 01, 2020, 07:07:41 pm by drfchound »
Just imagine if we were 2-1 down with two minutes to go then scored twice to win 3-2 as happened against Crewe (I think it was Crewe) a couple of years ago.
I don’t think that everyone would stay nicely in their seats and continue to socially distance themselves.

DonnyBazR0ver

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Re: Fans back in the ground
« Reply #43 on June 01, 2020, 07:20:06 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
Instead of thinking reasons why it wouldn't work, think of reasons that could make it work.

We've got to get on with life as best we can and we all have responsibility to respect  people's space. I think the vast majority of people will act responsibly and I hope we'll see a return to watching football sooner rather than later. At the end of the day, it's not compulsory but it will be great to have the choice.

Appreciate that DBR but if Rovers were at home tomorrow I wouldnt go.

Similary (sorry Landlords) and my Fav Chippy (Chips n Things Moorends) but I would not go anywhere like that either. I will be paranoid until the death rate is at a level I AM comfortable with and its far too high for me at the moment

Nobody would blame you for that at all. We've all got to make our own risk assessment and it will take time for folk to build up confidence in going to public places.

I notice an article on Sky today reporting the Premier league are hoping to have fans back into statiums for the start of the new season, most likely with restrictions.

drfchound

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« Reply #44 on June 01, 2020, 07:27:24 pm by drfchound »
I read an article yesterday by PL player Tyrone Mings.
He insists that the return to playing PL football is financially driven and that the last people to be consulted over the restart are the players themselves.
Other players, such as Danny Rose and Sergio Agüero have expressed concern about resuming playing.

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Re: Fans back in the ground
« Reply #45 on June 01, 2020, 08:32:45 pm by Draytonian III »
Trouble is Mings, Aguero and Rose especially Rose will be seen as a troublemaker by the media by not going along with everything. Aaron Ramsdale the 1st choice Bournemouth goalkeeper has caught the virus he should be all clear to play in a fortnight or so when the season resumes, but what will happen if someone who is a key member of a side gets ill in a month’s time and can’t play ? Mcginn - Villa ,Deeney - Watford, Rice - WHU

drfchound

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Re: Fans back in the ground
« Reply #46 on June 01, 2020, 08:35:24 pm by drfchound »
Trouble is Mings, Aguero and Rose especially Rose will be seen as a troublemaker by the media by not going along with everything. Aaron Ramsdale the 1st choice Bournemouth goalkeeper has caught the virus he should be all clear to play in a fortnight or so when the season resumes, but what will happen if someone who is a key member of a side gets ill in a month’s time and can’t play ? Mcginn - Villa ,Deeney - Watford, Rice - WHU






I wrote about that situation the other day.
It could be that a team has to play without some recognised regulars.


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Re: Fans back in the ground
« Reply #47 on June 01, 2020, 09:17:29 pm by selby »
The way the ordinary public have behaved this last weekend, the big test will come in a couple of weeks, if the numbers keep lowering and carry on doing so over that period ahead I think we could start to believe that we are well over the worst, and possibly in a period after that people and the authorities will be confident enough to get back to something resembling normality.
  Until then and looking forward I would still advocate caution, and I am sure the powers that be at both the club and the government will do so.

Draytonian III

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Re: Fans back in the ground
« Reply #48 on June 01, 2020, 09:20:07 pm by Draytonian III »
Trouble is Mings, Aguero and Rose especially Rose will be seen as a troublemaker by the media by not going along with everything. Aaron Ramsdale the 1st choice Bournemouth goalkeeper has caught the virus he should be all clear to play in a fortnight or so when the season resumes, but what will happen if someone who is a key member of a side gets ill in a month’s time and can’t play ? Mcginn - Villa ,Deeney - Watford, Rice - WHU






I wrote about that situation the other day.
It could be that a team has to play without some recognised regulars.



Sorry hound didn’t see it, but it’s right

drfchound

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Re: Fans back in the ground
« Reply #49 on June 01, 2020, 09:23:07 pm by drfchound »
The way the ordinary public have behaved this last weekend, the big test will come in a couple of weeks, if the numbers keep lowering and carry on doing so over that period ahead I think we could start to believe that we are well over the worst, and possibly in a period after that people and the authorities will be confident enough to get back to something resembling normality.
  Until then and looking forward I would still advocate caution, and I am sure the powers that be at both the club and the government will do so.






But that begs the question selby, when people start “getting back to normal”, will the virus begin to infect people again.
I don’t imagine that the virus is just going to go away (despite what Trump has said) so “getting back to normal” will be giving it a chance to infect people on a large scale once again.

drfchound

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Re: Fans back in the ground
« Reply #50 on June 01, 2020, 09:24:26 pm by drfchound »
Trouble is Mings, Aguero and Rose especially Rose will be seen as a troublemaker by the media by not going along with everything. Aaron Ramsdale the 1st choice Bournemouth goalkeeper has caught the virus he should be all clear to play in a fortnight or so when the season resumes, but what will happen if someone who is a key member of a side gets ill in a month’s time and can’t play ? Mcginn - Villa ,Deeney - Watford, Rice - WHU






I wrote about that situation the other day.
It could be that a team has to play without some recognised regulars.



Sorry hound didn’t see it, but it’s right






Deeney said that he wouldn’t be resuming training.

idler

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Re: Fans back in the ground
« Reply #51 on June 01, 2020, 11:59:31 pm by idler »
The way the ordinary public have behaved this last weekend, the big test will come in a couple of weeks, if the numbers keep lowering and carry on doing so over that period ahead I think we could start to believe that we are well over the worst, and possibly in a period after that people and the authorities will be confident enough to get back to something resembling normality.
  Until then and looking forward I would still advocate caution, and I am sure the powers that be at both the club and the government will do so.
The worry is hound if loads of people go back to normal it will be two to three weeks before it peaks and where will that leave us?
It will certainly annoy those that have behaved and followed the guidelines.







But that begs the question selby, when people start “getting back to normal”, will the virus begin to infect people again.
I don’t imagine that the virus is just going to go away (despite what Trump has said) so “getting back to normal” will be giving it a chance to infect people on a large scale once again.


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Re: Fans back in the ground
« Reply #52 on June 02, 2020, 09:59:56 am by selby »
  Hound, people will be hard pushed to flaunt how close they get to each other more than has been the case at demonstrations and on the beaches and beauty spots this last weekend.
  It has got to be one of the best unofficial socialising tests ever, if there is not a spike in a couple of weeks then I would suggest the problem is manageable.
  I am like you, aware of my own and close ones personal safety,but living in a country village have it easy to others although both my daughters are designated Key workers and have had to go to work every day.
 Where football fits in remains up the authorities when safe for spectators and participants. We may be able to see local football and youth football before the professional game as spectators.
  The younger generations are out of control and have never accepted the need to be that bothered about the rules imposed even around here the weather encouraging them to meet up and party next to the canal here, Tombstone off the bridges and swimming, risking Wheels disease more than Covid 19.
  They would have been much better occupied being at school, and probably safer.

drfchound

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« Reply #53 on June 02, 2020, 10:04:53 am by drfchound »
I wonder whether those young people would change their mind if they infected their parents or grandparents and caused them to die.

selby

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« Reply #54 on June 02, 2020, 10:17:52 am by selby »
  With some of their attitude to their entitlement they would be happy to get their inheritance without the care costs I think.

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« Reply #55 on June 02, 2020, 11:34:16 am by RoversAlias »
I wonder whether those young people would change their mind if they infected their parents or grandparents and caused them to die.

This is it isn't it, I think a lot of people are going around with the attitude of "I'll be fine if I get it, so stuff the lockdown". Sadly we can't all have that luxury of ignorance.

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« Reply #56 on June 02, 2020, 02:28:42 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
I wonder whether those young people would change their mind if they infected their parents or grandparents and caused them to die.

This is it isn't it, I think a lot of people are going around with the attitude of "I'll be fine if I get it, so stuff the lockdown". Sadly we can't all have that luxury of ignorance.

There is an element of that sadly but let's be realistic, they are in the minority. Its a bit unfair to label all young people that way..

Of course there has to be caution, any fans attending games need to be aware of what is expected before entering the stadium. I'm sure clubs/our club will be prepared when the time comes.

With the liklihood that people will be more spaced out in the stadium, then games are more likely to be like pre-season friendlies. The atmosphere etc is not the priority, it's a starting point in opening up grounds again.

The 'We'll do what we want' brigade will not be welcome if they insist in not conforming.

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« Reply #57 on June 02, 2020, 03:47:10 pm by RoversAlias »
I wonder whether those young people would change their mind if they infected their parents or grandparents and caused them to die.

This is it isn't it, I think a lot of people are going around with the attitude of "I'll be fine if I get it, so stuff the lockdown". Sadly we can't all have that luxury of ignorance.

There is an element of that sadly but let's be realistic, they are in the minority. Its a bit unfair to label all young people that way..

Of course there has to be caution, any fans attending games need to be aware of what is expected before entering the stadium. I'm sure clubs/our club will be prepared when the time comes.

With the liklihood that people will be more spaced out in the stadium, then games are more likely to be like pre-season friendlies. The atmosphere etc is not the priority, it's a starting point in opening up grounds again.

The 'We'll do what we want' brigade will not be welcome if they insist in not conforming.

I didn't say I was referring to young people, but I do take your point. I'm not trying to generalise, but I do think we've seen plenty of examples of people (of all ages) just acting like the virus has disappeared or just doesn't matter now that lockdown has been eased, and it concerns me. I'm 27 years old myself but haven't gone further than the bins in the past two and a half months because I'm in the high risk category and don't want to take chances.

I do worry that I won't be back in a football stadium watching Rovers for a year or more, regardless of whether others are. I'm not sure it's possible for a crowd of people watching a football game to really adhere to social distancing from one another, even if every single person is doing their best (which I find unlikely) due to the way stadiums are laid out and the use of shared facilities like the concourses and toilets etc.

 

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