5 subs

[Branton Rover]

From Friday all clubs in the football league will be able to use 5 substitutes after a U turn from the authorities - league 1 & 2 can name 7 whereas the Championship can name 9 -

[Branton Rover]

I think this is a good thing where you can rotate players and keep them as fresh as possible - I think DM was pressing for this

[dknward2]

Great news hopefully will stop players from burning out so quickly

[Retdon1]

Not a fan, will only favour the bigger clubs with larger squads

[IDM]

Not a fan, will only favour the bigger clubs with larger squads

But if we can still name 7 players on the bench that is no different to now - only that 5 may be used instead of 3. 

[NigelJ]

Not a fan, will only favour the bigger clubs with larger squads

Agreed. It will also favour teams who play a high-energy pressing game, as they will have more scope for swapping the pressing players around. This could totally change the dynamic of games. Expect more teams to press more, and higher up the pitch....

[DearneValleyRover]

The u turn is due to the amount of long term, serious and hamstring injuries that are happening due to the short pre season and the amount of games being played in the short space of time. Remember we’ve lost 4 already and DM favours the high tempo press, really think this will help us and protect our forward players

[DonnyBazR0ver]

I think it was rejected by club managers in the first place.

If you remember before, I think there was a limit to the amount of subs that could be made after a certain point in the game. Was it only two after 75 mins?

This will bring a whole new perspective to the game, some positives, some negative depending how they're used.

In Rugby Union, instead of 'subs' they termed players 'starters' and 'finishers'. Interesting.

[IDM]

I don’t think there was any time limit, more that substitutions could be made on only 3 occasions, ie to use all 5 there would need to be one triple substitution or two doubles.

[ravenrover]

Doubt it was rejected by the Managers, Owners Chairmen or CEO's more likely

[Janso]

Dunno, David Moyes said he initially said he didn't want it then changed his mind.

[GazLaz]

Not a fan, will only favour the bigger clubs with larger squads

Surely if it is an injury prevention measure it will favour the teams with smaller squads on the long term. Injured players affect them more.

[NickDRFC]

I think it was rejected by club managers in the first place.

If you remember before, I think there was a limit to the amount of subs that could be made after a certain point in the game. Was it only two after 75 mins?

This will bring a whole new perspective to the game, some positives, some negative depending how they're used.

In Rugby Union, instead of 'subs' they termed players 'starters' and 'finishers'. Interesting.

They’re only called finishers in rugby because Eddie Jones coined the term as a management technique, a motivational tool for the players on the bench.

[scawsby steve]

The u turn is due to the amount of long term, serious and hamstring injuries that are happening due to the short pre season and the amount of games being played in the short space of time. Remember we’ve lost 4 already and DM favours the high tempo press, really think this will help us and protect our forward players

We've only lost 3.

[NigelJ]

The u turn is due to the amount of long term, serious and hamstring injuries that are happening due to the short pre season and the amount of games being played in the short space of time. Remember we’ve lost 4 already and DM favours the high tempo press, really think this will help us and protect our forward players

We've only lost 3.

I think DVR means we have lost 4 players due to injury, and was not referring to the number of games we've lost.

[scawsby steve]

The u turn is due to the amount of long term, serious and hamstring injuries that are happening due to the short pre season and the amount of games being played in the short space of time. Remember we’ve lost 4 already and DM favours the high tempo press, really think this will help us and protect our forward players

We've only lost 3.

I think DVR means we have lost 4 players due to injury, and was not referring to the number of games we've lost.

In that case his number's still way out. We've had at least 7 first teamers out with injuries this season, although not all at the same time.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

I don’t think there was any time limit, more that substitutions could be made on only 3 occasions, ie to use all 5 there would need to be one triple substitution or two doubles.

Thanks for correcting me. It makes sense that there should be some limits, as mangers could easily use this to the n'th degree to disrupt and slow games down even more.

[Retdon1]

Not a fan, will only favour the bigger clubs with larger squads

Surely if it is an injury prevention measure it will favour the teams with smaller squads on the long term. Injured players affect them more.

Not really. Look at our bench on occasions this season, we’ve had numerous youth team players on there. The bigger teams in the division will have experienced players not even getting a spot on the bench currently. Our 4th and 5th subs currently would be 17/18 year old kids.

[DearneValleyRover]

The u turn is due to the amount of long term, serious and hamstring injuries that are happening due to the short pre season and the amount of games being played in the short space of time. Remember we’ve lost 4 already and DM favours the high tempo press, really think this will help us and protect our forward players

We've only lost 3.

I think DVR means we have lost 4 players due to injury, and was not referring to the number of games we've lost.

In that case his number's still way out. We've had at least 7 first teamers out with injuries this season, although not all at the same time.

Actually I’m not, I did state long term and we’ve only had 4 of those, John-Joules, Tulloch, Richards and Gomes.

[PDX_Rover]

I think it’s a good thing. It’s still 11 v 11 on the pitch and gives more options. Size of squad is not really a factor as you can still only use the same amount of subs.

[scawsby steve]

The u turn is due to the amount of long term, serious and hamstring injuries that are happening due to the short pre season and the amount of games being played in the short space of time. Remember we’ve lost 4 already and DM favours the high tempo press, really think this will help us and protect our forward players

We've only lost 3.

I think DVR means we have lost 4 players due to injury, and was not referring to the number of games we've lost.

In that case his number's still way out. We've had at least 7 first teamers out with injuries this season, although not all at the same time.

Actually I’m not, I did state long term and we’ve only had 4 of those, John-Joules, Tulloch, Richards and Gomes.

Apologies. These long, dark, covid threatened days are affecting my understanding of semantics.

[karldew]

Can you have more than 5 loan players in the match day squad now then?

[DearneValleyRover]

Can you have more than 5 loan players in the match day squad now then?

No it’s still 5 maximum

[Alan Southstand]

We’ve currently only got 5 loanees available anyway and, for this Saturday, apparently, only 4. Tulloch’s hamstring injury must be far worse than everyone thought! 8 weeks is a long time for a hamstring strain.

I don’t think we have the strength in depth of squad for this to favour us in any way. It’s really only going to help us from the viewpoint of injury prevention.

[idler]

It could mean some more of the younger lads getting experience of being in the match day squad and getting on the bench. That would be a bonus and help them.

[Bristol Red Rover]

Not in favour of this even as an "emergency" move. The injury problem is caused by training too much too soon, and has happened in previous seasons too. That's what needs correcting, not increasing soundbite performances - if you can't perform for 90 mins you shouldn't be playing.

That it's just for these "challenging times" is as bullshit as the general laws of the land that have been changed. We will have this next season and onwards, all the way till they introduce 11 subs that can be interchanged as and when, 10 mins on 10 mins off, giants brought on just for corners, or "corner plays".

I summary, what a load of shit. This is turning me from the game.