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rover-n-out

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What sort of ref would you be?
« on August 08, 2022, 10:02:00 am by rover-n-out »
Just thought I'd pose the question to all on here, if we had the thankless task of being the man in the middle with the whistle.
What sort of ref would YOU be?

It seems to me that over the years I've been watching this game, that it has become more and more a non-contact sport with players being penalised with free kicks, sometimes a yellow card, and on occasion (depending on the ref's interpretation of the tackle) a red card, for what to me seem perfectly good tackles.
Do you think you'd be more tolerant of these tackles, and allow play to flow? I understand it's all about interpretation of these tackles, but I often think ref's are a bit trigger happy with a lot of well timed successful tackles where the player clearly gets the ball first, and the tackled player goes down rolling around in feigned agony as the tackling player follows through and makes contact with him.
How do you interpret that, how can the tackling player avoid contact with the tackled player, especially if that player comes into the tackle late, as in the case of Ravenhill at Bradford, who clearly won the ball and got it away to the by-line well before the Bradford lad lunged into the tackle late and gets clattered by Ravenhill's follow through.  Ravenhill gets a yellow card for that, how come?
Would you have carded him for what seemed to me an unfortunate accident that happens sometimes in a game.

How would you have dealt with Tomlin's antics?
Would you have told him to get up, stop being a pillock and get on with the game, and warn him of the risk of a red if he continues his stupid antic's, or would YOU have given him his marching orders as well?
Histrionics is prevalent throughout the game, and sometimes it's difficult to tell when a player is truly injured, or trying to con the ref to gain an advantage.

How tough would you be on players giving you grief, with some colourful language thrown your way, do you treat it as dissent every time, or accept it as just a bit of "shop floor" language in the heat of the moment?

I know we have all aimed our vitriol at what seems total inadequacy in many ref's we've had officiating our games, but is it justified, how would we be any better at it, and what would you bring to the game that countless ref's we have had over the years seem unable to do so?

Would you stamp down on time wasters? an obvious ploy used by every team I have seen (including Rovers) to try to gain an advantage. Totally frustrating when it happens to Rovers, and nail biting when Rovers try running the clock down against others, which generally means we are ahead in the game.
Would you dish out more cards to try and stop this practice, or just keep adding time on at the end?

Diving, a practice I really hate to see from any player, be it our own or an oppo player.
I don't know if you can give a player a straight red for diving, but if you can I would brandish the red card to any player guilty of this disgraceful practice, as I just hate cheating of any kind.

Who'd be a ref eh?

So, what sort of ref would you be??



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Ldr

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Re: What sort of ref would you be?
« Reply #1 on August 08, 2022, 10:12:51 am by Ldr »
I’d only book for cowardice, bring back the 70s/80s

selby

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Re: What sort of ref would you be?
« Reply #2 on August 08, 2022, 10:29:44 am by selby »
  A B*****D

danumdon

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Re: What sort of ref would you be?
« Reply #3 on August 08, 2022, 10:31:48 am by danumdon »
Unfortunately the change in how matches are referred is exactly in step with how society has evolved, we all know exactly the direction of travel in that case.

Donnywolf

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Re: What sort of ref would you be?
« Reply #4 on August 08, 2022, 10:42:44 am by Donnywolf »
I think they could be helped immensely by having (nobody will be surprised) the whole Timekeeping taken from them

Replace it with a fixed 30 minutes per half of timed play. Ball goes dead for throw in, free kick, goal, goal kick, injury , substitution etc etc. The clock controller stops clock and only restarts it when the ball goes back in play

Think of the grief that would avoid , the frustration ended , no guessing the added time which usually is HOW much when you are winning and it's at least double that when you are losing .

There would be nothing the Ref would need to do to speed subs up going off any more , no judging if the players (like 2 or 3 Saturday) are really injured or conning them. They could play it safe each time

That would free up loads of time for Refs and who knows some may get Points from me in Rate the Ref in the future

danumdon

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Re: What sort of ref would you be?
« Reply #5 on August 08, 2022, 10:47:45 am by danumdon »
I think they could be helped immensely by having (nobody will be surprised) the whole Timekeeping taken from them

Replace it with a fixed 30 minutes per half of timed play. Ball goes dead for throw in, free kick, goal, goal kick, injury , substitution etc etc. The clock controller stops clock and only restarts it when the ball goes back in play

Think of the grief that would avoid , the frustration ended , no guessing the added time which usually is HOW much when you are winning and it's at least double that when you are losing .

There would be nothing the Ref would need to do to speed subs up going off any more , no judging if the players (like 2 or 3 Saturday) are really injured or conning them. They could play it safe each time

That would free up loads of time for Refs and who knows some may get Points from me in Rate the Ref in the future

Totally agree with this, just as in Rugby league take the timekeeping out of the refs hands, would be a sea change in mentality to how players behave and conduct themselves.

Not sure why its never been used as a pilot scheme, do the authorities not like it for some reason?

Donnywolf

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Re: What sort of ref would you be?
« Reply #6 on August 08, 2022, 02:53:11 pm by Donnywolf »
They are experimenting with it and I wish they would get on with it.

They already know that on average a Prem game has the ball in play less than 60 minutes so the timing of 30 each way is suitable

All of us pay to hopefully watch a football game ... NOT goalkeepers taking nearly a minute to put the ball back in play

Bring it on

selby

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Re: What sort of ref would you be?
« Reply #7 on August 08, 2022, 03:09:28 pm by selby »
  Assistants ( linesmen to my generation) taking a full part in the game looking for infringements instead of just offside and throw ins would be a help and a novelty now.

Bentley Bullet

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Re: What sort of ref would you be?
« Reply #8 on August 08, 2022, 03:17:29 pm by Bentley Bullet »
Refs should officiate from the stands. They obviously struggle with having to run about in an environment of younger people in order to keep up with play. That's why us in the stands get a lot more decisions right.
« Last Edit: August 08, 2022, 03:19:35 pm by Bentley Bullet »

Lesonthewest

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Re: What sort of ref would you be?
« Reply #9 on August 08, 2022, 06:22:08 pm by Lesonthewest »
Having reffed even in the Doncaster junior leagues it's a thankless task, you need to be thick skinned. Just ref with a smile on your face, it's just a game.

danumdon

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Re: What sort of ref would you be?
« Reply #10 on August 08, 2022, 06:28:24 pm by danumdon »
Having reffed even in the Doncaster junior leagues it's a thankless task, you need to be thick skinned. Just ref with a smile on your face, it's just a game.

Sure to go down like a lead balloon with a team who have just missed out on promotion to the Premiership or a team who were relegated by an amount of points that where taking from them by rank poor decisions.

Lesonthewest

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Re: What sort of ref would you be?
« Reply #11 on August 08, 2022, 07:40:03 pm by Lesonthewest »
Having reffed even in the Doncaster junior leagues it's a thankless task, you need to be thick skinned. Just ref with a smile on your face, it's just a game.

Sure to go down like a lead balloon with a team who have just missed out on promotion to the Premiership or a team who were relegated by an amount of points that where taking from them by rank poor decisions.

Probably, but the OP asked what ref you would be so I answered it.

Sammy Chung was King

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Re: What sort of ref would you be?
« Reply #12 on August 08, 2022, 07:42:29 pm by Sammy Chung was King »
Let the game flow, only pull up bad tackles. Booking straight away for any diving or cheating. Have banter including swearing as long as it wasn’t said in a disrespectful way. Just let the players be the stars on the pitch, not me.

phil old leake

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Re: What sort of ref would you be?
« Reply #13 on August 08, 2022, 09:37:39 pm by phil old leake »
I’d be one that enforced the rules/law. Didn’t get friendly with the players and would stamp down on cheating being abused by players who surrounded me.  If that meant booking loads and sending off a few so be it.  Too many refs are weak and claim to interpret the laws do that the game flows. 
Too many are weak.  I’ve been a ref and it’s not easy. They are well paid and should do their jobs.  How many times in here do people wing because refs are awful. 

idler

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Re: What sort of ref would you be?
« Reply #14 on August 08, 2022, 10:09:26 pm by idler »
It was ironic on Saturday when the ref told Sutton's number 15 to get the ball for their free kick. He pointedly refused to waste time.
That worked well for Sutton in the end didn't it?

Goole Rover

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Re: What sort of ref would you be?
« Reply #15 on August 08, 2022, 10:16:36 pm by Goole Rover »
  A B*****D
That would be totally different to your Dad he was always a gentleman.  His favourite saying was "na steady down we've all got to go to work on Monday" Another was when remonstrating after a goal had gone in by saying that was never a goal ref he would reply "have look in Green Un tonight to see if was a goal or not.
Still got the bruises from you lot at Askern Welfare. 

 

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