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Ryaldinhio

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Injuries and incompetency
« on April 16, 2023, 11:58:06 pm by Ryaldinhio »
I haven't seen any discussions on this forum around this subject and I feel the root cause of our problems.

Whilst we now supposedly have 'significant funds' available for next seasons first team, Copps noted clearly that this wasn't for transfer fees, so we are talking wages only. There have been plenty of people on here defending that position and noting, correctly, that's how many clubs at this level operate.

BUT for how many years have we had the free press tell us that player X should be in the championship if he stayed in the team and player Y dominated league 1 when he was playing.

Is everyone missing the truth here? Whilst we aren't paying for players we get those that are in the free pot. They are there for a reason, they either aren't good enough or the are injury prone?!  Then we sign these stars and wonder why we have a lot of injuries???? It happens every year. Year in year out.

Two exceptions for me this year are Molyenuex, performed better last season in L2, and Biggins, hopefully not injury prone just unlucky.

But whilst we sign people for free who 'should be in higher leagues' we will always have a busy physio.

I can read the write up now when RSW signs for someone else



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dickos1

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Re: Injuries and incompetency
« Reply #1 on April 17, 2023, 08:03:55 am by dickos1 »
I think it’s wrong to suggest out of contract players are there for a reason.
A high proportion of them will be there because they want to leave the club they’re at,

scawsby steve

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Re: Injuries and incompetency
« Reply #2 on April 17, 2023, 06:37:39 pm by scawsby steve »
I haven't seen any discussions on this forum around this subject and I feel the root cause of our problems.

Whilst we now supposedly have 'significant funds' available for next seasons first team, Copps noted clearly that this wasn't for transfer fees, so we are talking wages only. There have been plenty of people on here defending that position and noting, correctly, that's how many clubs at this level operate.

BUT for how many years have we had the free press tell us that player X should be in the championship if he stayed in the team and player Y dominated league 1 when he was playing.

Is everyone missing the truth here? Whilst we aren't paying for players we get those that are in the free pot. They are there for a reason, they either aren't good enough or the are injury prone?!  Then we sign these stars and wonder why we have a lot of injuries???? It happens every year. Year in year out.

Two exceptions for me this year are Molyenuex, performed better last season in L2, and Biggins, hopefully not injury prone just unlucky.

But whilst we sign people for free who 'should be in higher leagues' we will always have a busy physio.

I can read the write up now when RSW signs for someone else

John Marquis was free. He wasn't injury prone, and was certainly good enough.

drfchound

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Re: Injuries and incompetency
« Reply #3 on April 17, 2023, 07:24:51 pm by drfchound »
Also Keiron Saddlier left for free after he went out of contract.

dickos1

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Re: Injuries and incompetency
« Reply #4 on April 17, 2023, 08:07:14 pm by dickos1 »
Richie wellens, Rob jones, Tom Anderson, Gareth roberts, John oster, Neil Sullivan etc etc etc

sedwardsdrfc

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Re: Injuries and incompetency
« Reply #5 on April 17, 2023, 09:24:56 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
The free agent debate again. Lots of good players will think they are better than their current club meaning they won’t sign the contract if offered and end up free. This is just a route to a pay rise and hopefully higher division for the player. Not a result of them been rubbish. You do get some let go from bigger clubs higher up because they aren’t good enough. But not been good enough for the championship doesn’t mean your not a very very good L2 player.

Basically this one’s been done to death. Much better value in the free or low fee range than spending 100-250k on a contracted player.

Canadian Rover

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Re: Injuries and incompetency
« Reply #6 on April 18, 2023, 11:29:14 am by Canadian Rover »
Copied from the DFP - Schofield also revealed this morning that Harrison Biggins, James Maxwell and Louis Jones are the three players currently sidelined who hope to return to action before the end of the season.

LET'S PLEASE SHOW WE HAVE LEARNED SOMETHING!!!

Don't bring these players back in now.

If they are not getting a contract notify them now and let their agents go to work. Don't put them back in the side for them to re-injure themselves and be kept on for rehabilitation for months or what seems like years in our case.

For those that are here next season keep them training and put them in some behind closed doors friendly matches... And prep them for next season for whomever is in charge.

Ryaldinhio

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Re: Injuries and incompetency
« Reply #7 on April 18, 2023, 09:22:45 pm by Ryaldinhio »
For some reason my original post was cut in half. I wasnt saying spend 100ks or that ALL free players were poor but we seem to be signing whats left...

I referenced Copps words at the meet the owners event where he said the team identify 10-12 players at the beginning of the window and then they look at the 2-3 that are left at the end and see who to sign. This wasn't the approach when signing Marquis, wellens, Sullivan etc. Hopefully with this 'substantial funds' being made available we will be back to taking first picks rather than getting whatever is left.

silent majority

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Re: Injuries and incompetency
« Reply #8 on April 18, 2023, 10:04:55 pm by silent majority »
For some reason my original post was cut in half. I wasnt saying spend 100ks or that ALL free players were poor but we seem to be signing whats left...

I referenced Copps words at the meet the owners event where he said the team identify 10-12 players at the beginning of the window and then they look at the 2-3 that are left at the end and see who to sign. This wasn't the approach when signing Marquis, wellens, Sullivan etc. Hopefully with this 'substantial funds' being made available we will be back to taking first picks rather than getting whatever is left.

That's not what he said.

 

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