Vivek Ramaswamy

[BillyStubbsTears]

Whatever the result in next year's US Election, I fear this one is going to be front and centre of right wing US politics for years.

Apparently he wowed everybody in the Republican Presidential Candidates debate last night.

I saw him being interviewed by Tucker Carlson recently. He's basically the living, walking, smooth talking, sharp suit wearing embodiment of every batshit conspiracy theory you've ever heard.

He thinks 9/11, COVID vaccines and climate change are all part of Govt plots. He thinks "Woke Capitalism" is destroying America. He goes out of his way to justify the actions of the people who tried to stage a coup on 6 Jan 2021.

He's Trump on steroids, but much more suave and probably without the need to f**k porn stars then commit crimes to hush them up.

I fear that the US Right is lost to the rational world for another generation and we are going to see a succession of suave chancers like this one trying to ride the tiger.

[Iberian Red]

You know you really shouldn't be watching Tucker Carlson?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Got me bang to rights.

Trouble is, 10s of millions of people in the USA get their world view shaped through his lens. I do a lot of work with Americans. I do need to understand them.

[ncRover]

What did he say about 9/11?

[BillyStubbsTears]

He's very clever.

He pushes the line over and over again "The Govt lied to us about 9/11". That establishes the headline. When he gets into detail, a long time later, he's claiming that there was an issue with a Saudi intelligence agent in California that the FBI didn't admit was an intelligence agent. It's 2nd and 3rd order stuff, but he presents it very skillfully as a "They will deceive you" theme on something as big as this. It's sophisticated stuff.

[Sprotyrover]

He's very clever.

He pushes the line over and over again "The Govt lied to us about 9/11". That establishes the headline. When he gets into detail, a long time later, he's claiming that there was an issue with a Saudi intelligence agent in California that the FBI didn't admit was an intelligence agent. It's 2nd and 3rd order stuff, but he presents it very skillfully as a "They will deceive you" theme on something as big as this. It's sophisticated stuff.

Tucker Carlson! I can only last about 15 seconds before I change Chanel’s!
If we were in the same room he would have a bloodied nose!
Vivek Ramaswamy is a superb Yarn spinner!

[drfchound]

And to think that selby gets stick for listening to certain radio channels.

[belton rover]

I think I’d prefer to listen to Tucker Jenkins’ political commentary.

[drfchound]

How about Tex Tucker?
(Older posters might remember him).

[ravenrover]

SS still has his collection of 78's by his sister Sophie

[scawsby steve]

SS still has his collection of 78's by his sister Sophie

I once heard an apparently true story about Billy Cotton presenting a radio show, and accidently saying "now here's one for all Sophie F*cker tans".

After the show, which had gone out live, Billy apparently asked the producer "do you think anyone noticed?".

[BillyStubbsTears]

This is the big take home for us.

https://twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/status/1694585116427755689

The Republican Party has gone full on batshit. Sooner or later one of the headcases is going to win the Presidency and not have any grown ups at his side. Then the real problem for us on this side of the pond starts - America has a President who says "Not our job to keep Russia in its box anymore."

Ramaswamy is trying that tune.

He'll not win this time but someone like him will eventually.

We'd better start tooling up, sharpish.

[danumdon]

This is the big take home for us.

https://twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/status/1694585116427755689

The Republican Party has gone full on batshit. Sooner or later one of the headcases is going to win the Presidency and not have any grown ups at his side. Then the real problem for us on this side of the pond starts - America has a President who says "Not our job to keep Russia in its box anymore."

Ramaswamy is trying that tune.

He'll not win this time but someone like him will eventually.

We'd better start tooling up, sharpish.

It may seem churlish to ask European nations to pay the going rate for their own security after many years of virtually expecting the US to pick up the tab and the UK to provide them with technical advice, intel and boots on the ground,but is this not the grand plan of the EU to have its own security service at hand? I'm thinking when this does finally materialise we can expect ww3 to follow on very soon behind it. When you look at the pontificating puffed up peacocks trying to exert influence in that direction the only thing that will follow is Armageddon.

Regardless of what flavour the US government is it will eventually lead to European nations having to make up the current shortfall in defence spending, the current situation will not be tolerated by the next presidency.

[Sprotyrover]

Poland has massively tooled up, which. Is a bit of a concern as they will want to reclaim their 1939 Borders back!
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/daily-mail/20230708/281865827928866

[SydneyRover]

''Vivek Ramaswamy has described himself as an “outsider”, accusing rivals for the Republican presidential nomination of being “bought and paid for” by donors and special interests

But the 38-year-old Ohio-based venture capitalist, whose sharp-elbowed and angry display stood out in the first Republican debate this week, has his own close ties to influential figures from both sides of the political aisle.

Prominent among such connections are Peter Thiel, the co-founder of tech giants PayPal and Palantir and a rightwing megadonor, and Leonard Leo, the activist who has marshaled unprecedented sums in his push to stock federal courts with conservative judges.''

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/25/vivek-ramaswamy-rightwing-elite-close-ties-leonard-leo-peter-thiel

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