Let's talk about the Grimsby Town game

[Campsall rover]

I will give a thumps up for Louie Jones today.
Came for the crosses that were in his zone.
Noticed his starting position was much more advanced today.
Think some work on that aspect of his game has been taking place this week by the looks of it.

[Chris Black come back]

If he carries on with his recent form, it is going to be very difficult not to sign Nixon, if Hull don't extend his deal. Will leave us with a lot of full backs but he has been quality.

[Bailey Vickerage]

Not really a great deal you can say about this game that approaches any positivity bar we ground out a result from a match that in the past we would of lost in the final 10.

If anything the final 10 helped us with the introduction of Hurst who showed glimpses of offensive play that we lacked for most of the game, thought the penalty was very soft and would of been disappointed to have conceded it. I would of liked to have seen Degi thrown on for the last 10 mins with Hurst, they were a very poor side and we  made very heavy work of breaking them down, some speed and guile at the end could of made the game a lot safer for us. Instead we settled for the penalty and allowed them to come onto us.

Right from the off i thought the setup was off with Broadbent playing in a position that was plainly unsuitable for him, and with Ironside and Faal both having very average games the attack was pretty toothless even before Moly was forced off, lets hope that's not him off on his xmas holidays as we really needed his spark to try to get us firing.The Ironside chance in the first half after a good break and move by us was very wasteful, needed to be on target as a minimum.

The defence looked ok with Senior slotting in seamlessly but this was never going to be a big test from a poor Grimsby side, only real scare was Anderson getting done for pace by their striker who got a good shot off with a decent save from Jones, i thought he could of saved himself the bother if he'd been out quicker to clear the danger.

Overall we nicked two points there so a plus for us, we need to be 20% better then this, the side did look knacked at the end so i can sort of understand why they didn't push it after taking the lead. WE need some more bodies back to bolster and freshen up the side and to give us some added impetus.

This league is very poor i feel and a good run over the xmas period could see us pushing for the top 7.

Onwards.

u really think Jones could’ve got out to the ball before Rose? He wouldn’t have got anywhere near it and would’ve been an easy goal for Rose, Jones did excellent with that chance closing the angle but not coming out too far so rose could take it round him.

I thought his starting position was too far back and he was too late with his decision making, good save though.

Id like to see him being a great deal more positive with his play, he used to get the ball away quickly previously, now he tends to hold onto the ball too long and chances we have for a quick break are gone. I don't know if he's playing to orders when he does this but it looks like slack play to me.
The effort second half when he came for the ball and punched weakly when it looked an easier catch is something that not only looks poor but also unsettles the defence, a good decision there to catch the ball would take any pressure of a defence that is far from impressive.

Needs to keep improving to hold his place.

he came out and dealt with a lot today, especially the one he caught late on and deserved his clean sheet. Can’t believe there’s still ppl that believe he should lose his place.

The slowing down when he’s got the ball is down to calming things down when we’re under the cosh, stops the other teams momentum. His decision making on distribution is very good imo.

[Campsall rover]

Very hard earned point today against a team with very little quality or confidence.
1st half was awful. We were as bad as them. Seen more quality in the Northern Premier League.
2nd half much better but no quality service into the box again.
Good to see we have someone who knows how to take a penalty.
3 unstoppable ones from Joe Ironside this season so far.

The team worked their socks off that 2nd half even if the quality wasn’t there.
Good teams get results even when they don’t play well.
Sheer guts and determination to keep a clean sheet got us over the line.
There are some players running on almost empty at present.
Get a few more back fit and we will be a team that can challenge for a play off place.
There is enough quality in our squad I have no doubt. But 2 games a week most weeks for the same 12/13 players is going to take its toll.

3 very valuable points in the bag

[Thorney]

I can't believe the amount of people that was leaving soon has the clock touched 90 mins and the 4th official held up the board for 5 mins.

I understand that some people may have a longer journey home and also just want to beat the traffic, but if I come to the football I don't want to leave before I know that the result is certain, could understand more if ther was a 2 goal cushion.

Each to there own I suppose.

[danumdon]

Not really a great deal you can say about this game that approaches any positivity bar we ground out a result from a match that in the past we would of lost in the final 10.

If anything the final 10 helped us with the introduction of Hurst who showed glimpses of offensive play that we lacked for most of the game, thought the penalty was very soft and would of been disappointed to have conceded it. I would of liked to have seen Degi thrown on for the last 10 mins with Hurst, they were a very poor side and we  made very heavy work of breaking them down, some speed and guile at the end could of made the game a lot safer for us. Instead we settled for the penalty and allowed them to come onto us.

Right from the off i thought the setup was off with Broadbent playing in a position that was plainly unsuitable for him, and with Ironside and Faal both having very average games the attack was pretty toothless even before Moly was forced off, lets hope that's not him off on his xmas holidays as we really needed his spark to try to get us firing.The Ironside chance in the first half after a good break and move by us was very wasteful, needed to be on target as a minimum.

The defence looked ok with Senior slotting in seamlessly but this was never going to be a big test from a poor Grimsby side, only real scare was Anderson getting done for pace by their striker who got a good shot off with a decent save from Jones, i thought he could of saved himself the bother if he'd been out quicker to clear the danger.

Overall we nicked two points there so a plus for us, we need to be 20% better then this, the side did look knacked at the end so i can sort of understand why they didn't push it after taking the lead. WE need some more bodies back to bolster and freshen up the side and to give us some added impetus.

This league is very poor i feel and a good run over the xmas period could see us pushing for the top 7.

Onwards.

u really think Jones could’ve got out to the ball before Rose? He wouldn’t have got anywhere near it and would’ve been an easy goal for Rose, Jones did excellent with that chance closing the angle but not coming out too far so rose could take it round him.

I thought his starting position was too far back and he was too late with his decision making, good save though.

Id like to see him being a great deal more positive with his play, he used to get the ball away quickly previously, now he tends to hold onto the ball too long and chances we have for a quick break are gone. I don't know if he's playing to orders when he does this but it looks like slack play to me.
The effort second half when he came for the ball and punched weakly when it looked an easier catch is something that not only looks poor but also unsettles the defence, a good decision there to catch the ball would take any pressure of a defence that is far from impressive.

Needs to keep improving to hold his place.

he came out and dealt with a lot today, especially the one he caught late on and deserved his clean sheet. Can’t believe there’s still ppl that believe he should lose his place.

The slowing down when he’s got the ball is down to calming things down when we’re under the cosh, stops the other teams momentum. His decision making on distribution is very good imo.

Calm down fella no ones stating he should loose his place.

What i said was he needs to keep improving and not give the manager the option to drop him. If he can become a more commanding figure at the back it would do the whole defensive setup a world of good if they can relie on him to come for ball in his immediate area, this would instil much more confidence in a fragile back line up. When he flaps at balls that he should catch then this has a very negative reaction on the defence.

As for holding onto the ball the way i sw it he didn't have  a great deal of opportunity to start quick breaks by getting the ball away early because the players were not showing for him, this is something we are again drifting into, becoming very static, i would of thought that every outfield player should be running into space and creating an opportunity for the keeper to get it away early, all the top sides look to capitalise on this, we should too.

This has nothing to do with holding onto the ball when under pressure, that's something completely different.

[Sammy Chung was King]

That’s how you come out of a loss, with a hard earned, solid win.

[Armthorpe mickler]

Saw a different game to you Campsall.thought both teams were ok.We've got someone who can dive for a penalty as well as take one .There manager is unlucky to be sacked after that.

[danumdon]

Not really a great deal you can say about this game that approaches any positivity bar we ground out a result from a match that in the past we would of lost in the final 10.

If anything the final 10 helped us with the introduction of Hurst who showed glimpses of offensive play that we lacked for most of the game, thought the penalty was very soft and would of been disappointed to have conceded it. I would of liked to have seen Degi thrown on for the last 10 mins with Hurst, they were a very poor side and we  made very heavy work of breaking them down, some speed and guile at the end could of made the game a lot safer for us. Instead we settled for the penalty and allowed them to come onto us.

Right from the off i thought the setup was off with Broadbent playing in a position that was plainly unsuitable for him, and with Ironside and Faal both having very average games the attack was pretty toothless even before Moly was forced off, lets hope that's not him off on his xmas holidays as we really needed his spark to try to get us firing.The Ironside chance in the first half after a good break and move by us was very wasteful, needed to be on target as a minimum.

The defence looked ok with Senior slotting in seamlessly but this was never going to be a big test from a poor Grimsby side, only real scare was Anderson getting done for pace by their striker who got a good shot off with a decent save from Jones, i thought he could of saved himself the bother if he'd been out quicker to clear the danger.

Overall we nicked two points there so a plus for us, we need to be 20% better then this, the side did look knacked at the end so i can sort of understand why they didn't push it after taking the lead. WE need some more bodies back to bolster and freshen up the side and to give us some added impetus.

This league is very poor i feel and a good run over the xmas period could see us pushing for the top 7.

Onwards.

u really think Jones could’ve got out to the ball before Rose? He wouldn’t have got anywhere near it and would’ve been an easy goal for Rose, Jones did excellent with that chance closing the angle but not coming out too far so rose could take it round him.

I thought his starting position was too far back and he was too late with his decision making, good save though.

Id like to see him being a great deal more positive with his play, he used to get the ball away quickly previously, now he tends to hold onto the ball too long and chances we have for a quick break are gone. I don't know if he's playing to orders when he does this but it looks like slack play to me.
The effort second half when he came for the ball and punched weakly when it looked an easier catch is something that not only looks poor but also unsettles the defence, a good decision there to catch the ball would take any pressure of a defence that is far from impressive.

Needs to keep improving to hold his place.

he came out and dealt with a lot today, especially the one he caught late on and deserved his clean sheet. Can’t believe there’s still ppl that believe he should lose his place.

The slowing down when he’s got the ball is down to calming things down when we’re under the cosh, stops the other teams momentum. His decision making on distribution is very good imo.

Calm down fella no ones stating he should loose his place.

What i said was he needs to keep improving and not give the manager the option to drop him. If he can become a more commanding figure at the back it would do the whole defensive setup a world of good if they can relie on him to come for ball in his immediate area, this would instil much more confidence in a fragile back line up. When he flaps at balls that he should catch then this has a very negative reaction on the defence.

As for holding onto the ball the way i sw it he didn't have  a great deal of opportunity to start quick breaks by getting the ball away early because the players were not showing for him, this is something we are again drifting into, becoming very static, i would of thought that every outfield player should be running into space and creating an opportunity for the keeper to get it away early, all the top sides look to capitalise on this, we should too.

This has nothing to do with holding onto the ball when under pressure, that's something completely different.

Just seen the highlights and you were right about the one on one save, he would of been hard pushed to get to the ball first, he made the right decision and made a good save.

[philsky]

Can’t beat a scruffy win.

FA Cup is perfect to help us to consolidate.

[Thorney]

Saw a different game to you Campsall.thought both teams were ok.We've got someone who can dive for a penalty as well as take one .There manager is unlucky to be sacked after that.

Did you think Hurst dived for the penalty?
From my position in the east stand it looked like a reckless tackle by the defender who got nowhere near the ball and got everything on Hurst.
Didn't see much protest from the grimsby players either.

[drfchound]

Saw a different game to you Campsall.thought both teams were ok.We've got someone who can dive for a penalty as well as take one .There manager is unlucky to be sacked after that.

Did you think Hurst dived for the penalty?
From my position in the east stand it looked like a reckless tackle by the defender who got nowhere near the ball and got everything on Hurst.
Didn't see much protest from the grimsby players either.

No way was it a dive.  Great ball by Close and Hurst had got behind his marker.
The defender had to try to get the ball in that position but clearly clipped Hursts heels.
Pen all day long.

[Filo]

Saw a different game to you Campsall.thought both teams were ok.We've got someone who can dive for a penalty as well as take one .There manager is unlucky to be sacked after that.

Book yourself an eye test, that was no dive

[Armthorpe mickler]

It was the theatrical nature of the dive that I was refering to rather than whether it was or was'nt.Is Mccann teaching them ballet.

[philsky]

It was the theatrical nature of the dive that I was refering to rather than whether it was or was'nt.Is Mccann teaching them ballet.

About time we used the dark arts.

Often we’re on the receiving end.

[Armthorpe mickler]

That's true. Makes up for last season.They took that long getting the centre back off injured the 10 minutes extra time . They got the winner in the 9th minute.

[CJK]

The pen incident was right in front of me in the East stand and it was no dive and not at all theatrical, it was a really poor effort from the defender. Definite pen, no question.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

The pen incident was right in front of me in the East stand and it was no dive and not at all theatrical, it was a really poor effort from the defender. Definite pen, no question.

Right in front of me in the east stand and I thought very soft, was surprised the ref gave it. But, those I was with thought similar, 15 years ago he gets booked for diving but nowadays slightest contact it's a pen.  Shows I'm getting older. Agree it was poor defending, soft but probably right in modern football.

[drfchound]

It was the theatrical nature of the dive that I was refering to rather than whether it was or was'nt.Is Mccann teaching them ballet.

About time we used the dark arts.

Often we’re on the receiving end.

It wasn’t even the dark arts.
The defender clipped Hursts heels and he just went over.
It was an unintentional foul but a pen never the less.

[pib]

Poor game today but I think we had enough chances to justify the win - Ironside’s in the first half and Faal and Bailey’s in the second.

Looked like GM tried to go back to 433 from the start but switched back to a back 3 after about 10 or 15 mins as it clearly wasn’t working.

We have to get Hurst into this team and Bailey into midfield somehow. I think Bailey alongside Westbrooke and Close would give us a decent balance. Biggins and Broadbent are just not offering enough for me.

[Bailey Vickerage]

Not really a great deal you can say about this game that approaches any positivity bar we ground out a result from a match that in the past we would of lost in the final 10.

If anything the final 10 helped us with the introduction of Hurst who showed glimpses of offensive play that we lacked for most of the game, thought the penalty was very soft and would of been disappointed to have conceded it. I would of liked to have seen Degi thrown on for the last 10 mins with Hurst, they were a very poor side and we  made very heavy work of breaking them down, some speed and guile at the end could of made the game a lot safer for us. Instead we settled for the penalty and allowed them to come onto us.

Right from the off i thought the setup was off with Broadbent playing in a position that was plainly unsuitable for him, and with Ironside and Faal both having very average games the attack was pretty toothless even before Moly was forced off, lets hope that's not him off on his xmas holidays as we really needed his spark to try to get us firing.The Ironside chance in the first half after a good break and move by us was very wasteful, needed to be on target as a minimum.

The defence looked ok with Senior slotting in seamlessly but this was never going to be a big test from a poor Grimsby side, only real scare was Anderson getting done for pace by their striker who got a good shot off with a decent save from Jones, i thought he could of saved himself the bother if he'd been out quicker to clear the danger.

Overall we nicked two points there so a plus for us, we need to be 20% better then this, the side did look knacked at the end so i can sort of understand why they didn't push it after taking the lead. WE need some more bodies back to bolster and freshen up the side and to give us some added impetus.

This league is very poor i feel and a good run over the xmas period could see us pushing for the top 7.

Onwards.

u really think Jones could’ve got out to the ball before Rose? He wouldn’t have got anywhere near it and would’ve been an easy goal for Rose, Jones did excellent with that chance closing the angle but not coming out too far so rose could take it round him.

I thought his starting position was too far back and he was too late with his decision making, good save though.

Id like to see him being a great deal more positive with his play, he used to get the ball away quickly previously, now he tends to hold onto the ball too long and chances we have for a quick break are gone. I don't know if he's playing to orders when he does this but it looks like slack play to me.
The effort second half when he came for the ball and punched weakly when it looked an easier catch is something that not only looks poor but also unsettles the defence, a good decision there to catch the ball would take any pressure of a defence that is far from impressive.

Needs to keep improving to hold his place.

he came out and dealt with a lot today, especially the one he caught late on and deserved his clean sheet. Can’t believe there’s still ppl that believe he should lose his place.

The slowing down when he’s got the ball is down to calming things down when we’re under the cosh, stops the other teams momentum. His decision making on distribution is very good imo.

Calm down fella no ones stating he should loose his place.

What i said was he needs to keep improving and not give the manager the option to drop him. If he can become a more commanding figure at the back it would do the whole defensive setup a world of good if they can relie on him to come for ball in his immediate area, this would instil much more confidence in a fragile back line up. When he flaps at balls that he should catch then this has a very negative reaction on the defence.

As for holding onto the ball the way i sw it he didn't have  a great deal of opportunity to start quick breaks by getting the ball away early because the players were not showing for him, this is something we are again drifting into, becoming very static, i would of thought that every outfield player should be running into space and creating an opportunity for the keeper to get it away early, all the top sides look to capitalise on this, we should too.

This has nothing to do with holding onto the ball when under pressure, that's something completely different.

there was a lot of ppl on here and on Twitter after the Salford game saying that Lawlor needed to be in goal today and jones needs to be dropped.

[Lesonthewest]

A real dogged performance from the players yesterday, plain to see we lacked energy & ideas given the shifts these players have put in lately, Westbrooke, Nixon, & Bailey apart, who still look fit as butchers dogs. But they all  to a man dug out a result knowing they weren't playing well. Massive credit goes out to them & the manager for picking up the 3 points. Proud of them all.