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SydneyRover

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The irony
« on December 20, 2023, 07:44:57 pm by SydneyRover »
''Trump lashes out after Colorado ruling removing him from ballot
Predictably, the ex-president took to his social media site to condemn the decision – and to raise funds''

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/20/trump-response-colorado-disqualified-2024-ballot

In a country where the republicans try every which way to deny the vote of African Americans and minorities.



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ncRover

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Re: The irony
« Reply #1 on December 20, 2023, 08:37:49 pm by ncRover »
How do they try to stop African Americans from voting Sydney? I wasn’t aware

Yes that demographic is less likely to hold a driving license.

But looking in to it a state ID is an accepted form of voter ID?

To get one of them you need:

True full name (identity).
Date of birth/age.
United States citizenship or other legal presence.
Residency in the state in which they are applying.
A Social Security Number (or proof of ineligibility for one)

Anybody who is legally in the US can get a social security number so that all seems reasonable.

I can’t find out if state ID is accepted as voter ID in all states though. Can you?

Is that more stringent than in the UK or Aus? I can’t think.
« Last Edit: December 20, 2023, 09:12:57 pm by ncRover »

SydneyRover

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Re: The irony
« Reply #2 on December 20, 2023, 08:58:11 pm by SydneyRover »
try this or similar in your google search nc

'the ways republicans stop African Americans voting'

ncRover

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Re: The irony
« Reply #3 on December 20, 2023, 09:09:25 pm by ncRover »
Talk us through it in a practical sense and answer my questions if you could please. I’m not taking shots at you I’m just curious.

Sprotyrover

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Re: The irony
« Reply #4 on December 20, 2023, 10:20:04 pm by Sprotyrover »
Yes I am curious too, Sydders normally answered a question with a Question!

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: The irony
« Reply #5 on December 21, 2023, 12:13:50 am by BillyStubbsTears »
Suppression of black voting and related stuff has been common for years.

Gerrymandering: North Carolina in particular is notorious for it. They have a near 50/50 split of Republican and Democrat voters, with many of the latter being black. But the congressional seats areas are designed so that a few have huge Dem majorities and most have small Rep majorities. So on a 50/50 split vote in 2018 for example, the Reps won 10 seats and the Dems 3.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/29/us/politics/north-carolina-gerrymandering.html

Ex-convicts excluded from voting. The US prison population is massively disproportionately black. And many Rep-controlled states in the South still have laws disenfranshing ex-convicts who have served their time and are free.

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5f088a46ebe405013044f1a4/1628029622375-U147TDPPCPYOAK78OX15/Graphic+showing+criminal+disenfranchisement+laws+across+the+United+States.?format=1000w

On top of these systemic suppressions, there are numerous examples of polling stations being closed or moved to less accessible places in black areas, adverts and phone calling campaigns aimed at black areas, telling people they can be imprisoned if they try to vote without the right ID and similar.

SydneyRover

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Re: The irony
« Reply #6 on December 21, 2023, 11:13:16 pm by SydneyRover »
Talk us through it in a practical sense and answer my questions if you could please. I’m not taking shots at you I’m just curious.
How do they try to stop African Americans from voting Sydney? I wasn’t aware

Yes that demographic is less likely to hold a driving license.

But looking in to it a state ID is an accepted form of voter ID?

To get one of them you need:

True full name (identity).
Date of birth/age.
United States citizenship or other legal presence.
Residency in the state in which they are applying.
A Social Security Number (or proof of ineligibility for one)

Anybody who is legally in the US can get a social security number so that all seems reasonable.

I can’t find out if state ID is accepted as voter ID in all states though. Can you?

Is that more stringent than in the UK or Aus? I can’t think.

I guess now someone has kindly presented some of the information to you on a plate you'll want to say whether you were incorrect or ignorant of the facts nc?

Bristol Red Rover

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Re: The irony
« Reply #7 on December 23, 2023, 12:51:20 am by Bristol Red Rover »
How do they try to stop African Americans from voting Sydney? I wasn’t aware

Yes that demographic is less likely to hold a driving license.

But looking in to it a state ID is an accepted form of voter ID?

To get one of them you need:

True full name (identity).
Date of birth/age.
United States citizenship or other legal presence.
Residency in the state in which they are applying.
A Social Security Number (or proof of ineligibility for one)

Anybody who is legally in the US can get a social security number so that all seems reasonable.

I can’t find out if state ID is accepted as voter ID in all states though. Can you?

Is that more stringent than in the UK or Aus? I can’t think.
Same as anywhere, any hoop put in place that is a condition of voting will be beneficial to the establishment, and whatever party or parties are toeing the establishment line. Asking for a variety of ID is against democracy for that reason.

DRFC_AjA

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Re: The irony
« Reply #8 on December 26, 2023, 03:11:49 pm by DRFC_AjA »
Suppression of black voting and related stuff has been common for years.

Gerrymandering: North Carolina in particular is notorious for it. They have a near 50/50 split of Republican and Democrat voters, with many of the latter being black. But the congressional seats areas are designed so that a few have huge Dem majorities and most have small Rep majorities. So on a 50/50 split vote in 2018 for example, the Reps won 10 seats and the Dems 3.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/29/us/politics/north-carolina-gerrymandering.html

Ex-convicts excluded from voting. The US prison population is massively disproportionately black. And many Rep-controlled states in the South still have laws disenfranshing ex-convicts who have served their time and are free.

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5f088a46ebe405013044f1a4/1628029622375-U147TDPPCPYOAK78OX15/Graphic+showing+criminal+disenfranchisement+laws+across+the+United+States.?format=1000w

On top of these systemic suppressions, there are numerous examples of polling stations being closed or moved to less accessible places in black areas, adverts and phone calling campaigns aimed at black areas, telling people they can be imprisoned if they try to vote without the right ID and similar.

"Hi flash your ID so we know you are a citizen of this country and can vote "....... :crying: "how dare you you damned racists"

Denying convicts a vote is denying convicts a vote and not suppression of one community. The fact that community happens to have most members in prison is secondary. Lack of father figures, single motherhood, black on black gangbanging, in that community could equally be attributed try hard enough and anything can be attributed to anything

Too few male midwifes isn't sexism, nor racism that so few white people play American football given the national demographic. However, the company in charge of steward recruitment at the keepmoat is blatantly racist with little or no non people of colour and there must immediately be an inquiry and a quota implemented based purely on colour and not merit (taking the pi** obviously)
« Last Edit: December 26, 2023, 04:05:18 pm by DRFC_AjA »

Dutch Uncle

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Re: The irony
« Reply #9 on December 26, 2023, 06:08:03 pm by Dutch Uncle »
Another irony is denying ex convicts the right to vote when if Trump is convicted before the elections next year he can still stand. You can't vote but you can be President  :headbang: 

 

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