Patrick Kelly

[Filo]

Obvious that he has talent, but very raw, the jury is still out with me, loses the ball far too often and leaves us exposed when trying to take everyone on

[In the box]

Obvious that he has talent, but very raw, the jury is still out with me, loses the ball far too often and leaves us exposed when trying to take everyone on

Im glad it is t just me that notices his lazy style of play !!

[redarmi66]

Obvious that he has talent, but very raw, the jury is still out with me, loses the ball far too often and leaves us exposed when trying to take everyone on

Last night would have done him the world of good. He will learn to be more efficient and more productive. But lets not take the positivity and aggression from his game.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

He will learn, just like Craig, Whiteman, Sheaf etc did.  This is the downside to young loanees, but I'm sure in 10-15 games time we'll be raving about him.  He made some wrong decisions last night but that's the experience he needs to gain.

[Chris Black come back]

He is a teenager who has played a grand total of 83 minutes of league football in his entire life. I’d be far more amazed if he had turned in a faultless performance against a Premier League side.

[pib]

I think he's shown flashes of quality. Decision-making just needs to be better, sometimes holds on to it too long when an incisive pass is on. He'll learn. Craig didn't pull up any trees in his first few games for us.

[sedwardsdrfc]

Obviously got loads of ability but in that role I’m not sure he’s better than what we’ve got. Loses the ball too often in bad places so far, early days of course.

Westbrooke or Broadbent in that role and try are less likely to make those mistakes imo. With loan players we get nothing for the development from their mistakes. Why not let Broadbent make those mistakes. Ok Kelly will have a higher ceiling as a player but Broadbent if he improves does so as a DRFC asset.

[Alan Southstand]

He’s a far better presser than either Westbrook or Broadbent and he’s quicker across the ground. He’s not a ‘Craig’ yet, not by any means, but the potential is definitely there. It’s just how long do we have to wait!

Maybe a bit controversial, but I think, so far, the midfield (as a unit) is not to the levels we were seeing at the end of last season. And the last couple of league games, there’s been a drop-off from both Molyneux and Gibson (why does GM always sub off Gibson first?)

[jmt23]

Part of that is the opposition trying to stop Molly and Gibson as our main threats from both scoring and assisting!
I am concerned with Bailey who has looked far too ponderous on the ball so far, he is excellent at breaking play up though.Last night was tough and no one should judge anyone against such opponents, but Bailey has been like it in the league too.

[Petche]

I've noticed Craig isn't getting in the Barnsley squad, is he injured?

[StocksArmy]

He’s been very frustrating in the two starts he has had. Continuously runs into traffic.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

He’s a far better presser than either Westbrook or Broadbent and he’s quicker across the ground. He’s not a ‘Craig’ yet, not by any means, but the potential is definitely there. It’s just how long do we have to wait!

Maybe a bit controversial, but I think, so far, the midfield (as a unit) is not to the levels we were seeing at the end of last season. And the last couple of league games, there’s been a drop-off from both Molyneux and Gibson (why does GM always sub off Gibson first?)

I would agree with your second paragraph. The midfield isn't connected as a unit as well as we saw second half of last season. Maybe it's not so much the fault of the midfield anchor man, maybe the other midfield men are not finding space and providing sufficient options for the likes of Broadbent, Kelly, Westbrooke, whoever plays that role? Bailey seems to be foraging and probing, getting higher up the pitch etc, but never seems to be that close to make an easy option to pass.

Instead of 10 yard simple passes being on through the middle, we always seem to favour the wide route, so maybe we're too one dimensional? If the wide routes are blocked and we have to play longer 15 to 20 yard passes, we're getting picked off with interceptions.

A other thing that's annoying me is we're not getting Ironside involved enough, and again maybe, there's too much emphasis on the wide men cutting inside and shooting, repeat, repeat, repeat. Where's the variety with inviting crosses for our centre forward?

[danumdon]

He’s a far better presser than either Westbrook or Broadbent and he’s quicker across the ground. He’s not a ‘Craig’ yet, not by any means, but the potential is definitely there. It’s just how long do we have to wait!

Maybe a bit controversial, but I think, so far, the midfield (as a unit) is not to the levels we were seeing at the end of last season. And the last couple of league games, there’s been a drop-off from both Molyneux and Gibson (why does GM always sub off Gibson first?)

I would agree with your second paragraph. The midfield isn't connected as a unit as well as we saw second half of last season. Maybe it's not so much the fault of the midfield anchor man, maybe the other midfield men are not finding space and providing sufficient options for the likes of Broadbent, Kelly, Westbrooke, whoever plays that role? Bailey seems to be foraging and probing, getting higher up the pitch etc, but never seems to be that close to make an easy option to pass.

Instead of 10 yard simple passes being on through the middle, we always seem to favour the wide route, so maybe we're too one dimensional? If the wide routes are blocked and we have to play longer 15 to 20 yard passes, we're getting picked off with interceptions.

A other thing that's annoying me is we're not getting Ironside involved enough, and again maybe, there's too much emphasis on the wide men cutting inside and shooting, repeat, repeat, repeat. Where's the variety with inviting crosses for our centre forward?

Agreed, its a new season with a change in personnel and also positional changes that the players are having to get acquainted with. The point about Ironside is right, he's been a peripheral figure so far and its been a struggle to get players close enough to him to make any impression, Adulaken was very good in this regard last season, our current options are still to be fully formed, is it to be Hurst, Sbarra or AN Other?

Another area which is costing us is the loss of Maxwell, when in the team and firing it gave an outlet for whoever was in front of him to cut inside and act as the link with Ironside, same for the right wing with Mols doing the same, because of the injuries we have that avenue has not been fruitful for us so far, on the right Sterry has had all on producing a good enough defensive performance to enable any progress with Mols, the potential is still there, we just need to capitalise on it more and not be so one dimensional.

What would help us is the middle of the park starting to gel, I'd like to see Bailey reverting to his previous holding role alongside another grafter, but with legs and vision, something we're lacking in any of our options to play this role. It may require Close to come back in and be the vision but his partner would have double the legwork to do. Jury is still out on Broadbent and Westbrooke for me, they have some elements we need but lack others that we desperately need, as things stand we need Kelly to really step up, its still early and this team still need to fully understand each other and the greater sum of its parts.

GM will have his hands full again but i have confidence he can get a decent tune out of his squad, it will take a little time but we will see progress, when you think of the potential he has with players stepping up to the plate to stake their claims like McGrath, Kelly and Flemming and with others like Sbarra, Gibson and Hurst who we are yet to see the best of this season, the future looks positive.

[ncRover]

He’s a far better presser than either Westbrook or Broadbent and he’s quicker across the ground. He’s not a ‘Craig’ yet, not by any means, but the potential is definitely there. It’s just how long do we have to wait!

Maybe a bit controversial, but I think, so far, the midfield (as a unit) is not to the levels we were seeing at the end of last season. And the last couple of league games, there’s been a drop-off from both Molyneux and Gibson (why does GM always sub off Gibson first?)

I would agree with your second paragraph. The midfield isn't connected as a unit as well as we saw second half of last season. Maybe it's not so much the fault of the midfield anchor man, maybe the other midfield men are not finding space and providing sufficient options for the likes of Broadbent, Kelly, Westbrooke, whoever plays that role? Bailey seems to be foraging and probing, getting higher up the pitch etc, but never seems to be that close to make an easy option to pass.

Instead of 10 yard simple passes being on through the middle, we always seem to favour the wide route, so maybe we're too one dimensional? If the wide routes are blocked and we have to play longer 15 to 20 yard passes, we're getting picked off with interceptions.

A other thing that's annoying me is we're not getting Ironside involved enough, and again maybe, there's too much emphasis on the wide men cutting inside and shooting, repeat, repeat, repeat. Where's the variety with inviting crosses for our centre forward?

Bang on Baz.

Kelly isn’t like Craig. But even if he was I don’t think he would change things that much.

This is why I said we miss someone like Adelakun far more than Craig.

What is Joe Ironside good at? Winning headers, poaching and dropping in to link the play.

What isn’t he good at? Running in behind and at defenders. Same weaknesses with Billy.

So the wide forwards need to look to link with the full backs to get crosses in to the box and make those runs in behind to stretch the opposition and give the midfielders options. I’m not sure if the latter is Jordan Gibson’s game. Haks gave us that variety with his pace and movement.

Either that or we need someone like Sbarra or Gibson to play in the no.10 and get close to the centre forward.