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BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Tranmere Skylights
« Reply #30 on December 23, 2024, 07:22:40 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Not that I understand it, but what was the xg for Saturday

1.91 for us. So we took our chances

I don’t understand it even more now, we scored 3 goals, it the post twice and missed 2 one on one’s and the xg was 1.91?

I don't think I'm ever going to "get" xG.

Figures I've seen give an xG of 0.08 for the chance that Kelly put away. Surely you'd expect that a chance clean through on the keeper, 12 yards out, no defender close enough to challenge and a useful angle, to be converted more often that once in 12 or 13 attempts?



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Filo

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Re: Tranmere Skylights
« Reply #31 on December 23, 2024, 07:29:53 pm by Filo »
Not that I understand it, but what was the xg for Saturday

1.91 for us. So we took our chances

I don’t understand it even more now, we scored 3 goals, it the post twice and missed 2 one on one’s and the xg was 1.91?

I don't think I'm ever going to "get" xG.

Figures I've seen give an xG of 0.08 for the chance that Kelly put away. Surely you'd expect that a chance clean through on the keeper, 12 yards out, no defender close enough to challenge and a useful angle, to be converted more often that once in 12 or 13 attempts?

It baffles me

ncRover

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Re: Tranmere Skylights
« Reply #32 on December 23, 2024, 07:36:57 pm by ncRover »
Not that I understand it, but what was the xg for Saturday

1.91 for us. So we took our chances

I don’t understand it even more now, we scored 3 goals, it the post twice and missed 2 one on one’s and the xg was 1.91?

I don't think I'm ever going to "get" xG.

Figures I've seen give an xG of 0.08 for the chance that Kelly put away. Surely you'd expect that a chance clean through on the keeper, 12 yards out, no defender close enough to challenge and a useful angle, to be converted more often that once in 12 or 13 attempts?

That goal was 0.41xG.

Click on Patrick Kelly then on the football on his shot map. Download the site’s app it’s really good.

https://www.fotmob.com/en-GB/matches/tranmere-rovers-vs-doncaster-rovers/2qsgo3#4521200:tab=facts

scawsby steve

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Re: Tranmere Skylights
« Reply #33 on December 23, 2024, 07:51:32 pm by scawsby steve »
Shot location? You can blow that and all the other factors out of the window when you have 4 one on one situations in the game.

1.91? Don't make me laugh. It's all utter b*ll*cks.

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Tranmere Skylights
« Reply #34 on December 23, 2024, 08:01:40 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Not that I understand it, but what was the xg for Saturday

1.91 for us. So we took our chances

I don’t understand it even more now, we scored 3 goals, it the post twice and missed 2 one on one’s and the xg was 1.91?

I don't think I'm ever going to "get" xG.

Figures I've seen give an xG of 0.08 for the chance that Kelly put away. Surely you'd expect that a chance clean through on the keeper, 12 yards out, no defender close enough to challenge and a useful angle, to be converted more often that once in 12 or 13 attempts?

That goal was 0.41xG.

Click on Patrick Kelly then on the football on his shot map. Download the site’s app it’s really good.

https://www.fotmob.com/en-GB/matches/tranmere-rovers-vs-doncaster-rovers/2qsgo3#4521200:tab=facts

That's odd.

I looked earlier today and that one was definitely 0.08. with a total xG of about 1.7.

Just looked again on the same site and it's 0.41 as you say, with a total of 3.07.

ncRover

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Re: Tranmere Skylights
« Reply #35 on December 23, 2024, 08:09:28 pm by ncRover »
Not that I understand it, but what was the xg for Saturday

1.91 for us. So we took our chances

I don’t understand it even more now, we scored 3 goals, it the post twice and missed 2 one on one’s and the xg was 1.91?

I don't think I'm ever going to "get" xG.

Figures I've seen give an xG of 0.08 for the chance that Kelly put away. Surely you'd expect that a chance clean through on the keeper, 12 yards out, no defender close enough to challenge and a useful angle, to be converted more often that once in 12 or 13 attempts?

That goal was 0.41xG.

Click on Patrick Kelly then on the football on his shot map. Download the site’s app it’s really good.

https://www.fotmob.com/en-GB/matches/tranmere-rovers-vs-doncaster-rovers/2qsgo3#4521200:tab=facts

That's odd.

I looked earlier today and that one was definitely 0.08. with a total xG of about 1.7.

Just looked again on the same site and it's 0.41 as you say, with a total of 3.07.

Oh yeah they’ve changed the total on FotMob now too. Still, not bad from us in terms of finishing. So 3.07 is the correct answer Filo.

For the season so far, despite the narrative of missing chances, we’ve only underperformed our xG by 1 (we’ve scored 31 goals instead of 32).

GazLaz

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Re: Tranmere Skylights
« Reply #36 on December 23, 2024, 08:50:37 pm by GazLaz »
Not that I understand it, but what was the xg for Saturday

1.91 for us. So we took our chances

I don’t understand it even more now, we scored 3 goals, it the post twice and missed 2 one on one’s and the xg was 1.91?

I don't think I'm ever going to "get" xG.

Figures I've seen give an xG of 0.08 for the chance that Kelly put away. Surely you'd expect that a chance clean through on the keeper, 12 yards out, no defender close enough to challenge and a useful angle, to be converted more often that once in 12 or 13 attempts?

That goal was 0.41xG.

Click on Patrick Kelly then on the football on his shot map. Download the site’s app it’s really good.

https://www.fotmob.com/en-GB/matches/tranmere-rovers-vs-doncaster-rovers/2qsgo3#4521200:tab=facts

That's odd.

I looked earlier today and that one was definitely 0.08. with a total xG of about 1.7.

Just looked again on the same site and it's 0.41 as you say, with a total of 3.07.

A lot of these sites initially use the in running xG which is pretty arbitrary but then update once the game has been modelled properly using better data. 0.41 is a better reflection of that chance.

Pancho Regan

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Re: Tranmere Skylights
« Reply #37 on December 23, 2024, 10:45:46 pm by Pancho Regan »
Not that I understand it, but what was the xg for Saturday

1.91 for us. So we took our chances

I don’t understand it even more now, we scored 3 goals, it the post twice and missed 2 one on one’s and the xg was 1.91?

I don't think I'm ever going to "get" xG.

Figures I've seen give an xG of 0.08 for the chance that Kelly put away. Surely you'd expect that a chance clean through on the keeper, 12 yards out, no defender close enough to challenge and a useful angle, to be converted more often that once in 12 or 13 attempts?

It baffles me

Ignore it Filo, it is absolute b*llocks.

Just enjoy the game as you see it mate.

TheFunk

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Re: Tranmere Skylights
« Reply #38 on December 23, 2024, 11:38:03 pm by TheFunk »
We got dicked by Stockport last season and our xG was only marginally worse than theirs. It's a complete load of rubbish all because Biggins' goal was unmissable.

ForsolongaRover

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Re: Tranmere Skylights
« Reply #39 on December 24, 2024, 09:52:50 am by ForsolongaRover »
Taking a 1 on 1 situation, a great deal depends on the ability and proximity of the goalkeeper as well as the skill of the striker and the time he has to control the ball. Unless I am much mistaken, these are not factors which can be catered for within the statistics.

ncRover

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Re: Tranmere Skylights
« Reply #40 on December 26, 2024, 10:59:18 am by ncRover »
For anyone abroad who goes geolocation blocked by Sky;

https://videos.skysports.com/media/v1/pmp4/static/clear/6057984924001/6a1ccc03-8d6d-45e2-8d2b-70323342fd3b/8272ba5b-dbfa-499b-bd6d-21100e8fc827/main.mp4

that's me, thanks Albie

Are you not signed up to Rovers+ Syd?
You can view extended highlights and even full match replays from abroad on that I’m pretty sure.


 

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