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drfchound

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Re: A mature performance from a talented group of young players
« Reply #60 on February 02, 2025, 02:30:43 pm by drfchound »
But, contract extensions are in hand plus if we get to L1, who’s to say whether some of the loans re-join?

The preference would not be to rely on loans. We currently have 5 in the squad and have had 7 in total this season. That does demonstrate poor planning. Two or so loans for me. Leeds will go up, so would send us Crew in L1 for sure.

TSL on a free in the summer should be our first signing. So obvious. He can keep developing too.

If he enjoys it here and keeps it up I’d look at paying Lincoln for Rob Street. He’s still young, so if some of Ironside’s hold up play rubs off in him in training you have a monster of a centre forward. These types are in short supply.
Billy in L1 at 40 isn’t going to cut it, sorry.

With regards to TSL, will he be on better money at Chelsea, even at his young age, than anyone we have on our books?
If so, how could we afford to bring him in full time or would he accept a big pay cut to come here.
Rob Street would be more affordable I guess and after his goal yesterday he celebrated right in front of us and was tapping his hand on the shirt badge, a la McGrath. Maybe a sign that he is enjoying himself and perhaps he might want to stay with us if we go up.
Finally, low block seems to be the latest buzz word, a bit like transition.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2025, 04:13:24 pm by drfchound »



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philsky

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Re: A mature performance from a talented group of young players
« Reply #61 on February 02, 2025, 04:00:04 pm by philsky »
Agree with everyone saying it was probably the best, most complete, 90 minute performance of the season, particularly at home.

The energy and intensity was what we've been waiting for with Kelly and Crew having excellent games, probably both their best in a Rovers shirt so far. Maybe only blip for Kelly was allowing the run of their goalscorer.

I still think Maxwell is still a little short by comparison to Sterry on the right and think when the left side balances up with the right with Ennis (reminds me of a young James Milner) we'll be even more threatening from all angles.

Great to see Ironside at last getting the bit between his teeth and scoring a great goal as a result of his and the teams pressing efforts.

I was a bit worried when Crew and Kelly were subbed but the subs saw the game out well with Broadbent making some valuable interventions. Cilfton and Gibson.....lads, lads, how did you muck that one up that would have given us the icing on an already tasty cake!?

That sort of performance deserves 10k crowds with the attendance strangley down being the only disappointment.


How dare you criticise my Maxwell :-)  Reckon he's still getting back to full full fitness ?

ncRover

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Re: A mature performance from a talented group of young players
« Reply #62 on February 02, 2025, 07:14:07 pm by ncRover »
But, contract extensions are in hand plus if we get to L1, who’s to say whether some of the loans re-join?

The preference would not be to rely on loans. We currently have 5 in the squad and have had 7 in total this season. That does demonstrate poor planning. Two or so loans for me. Leeds will go up, so would send us Crew in L1 for sure.

TSL on a free in the summer should be our first signing. So obvious. He can keep developing too.

If he enjoys it here and keeps it up I’d look at paying Lincoln for Rob Street. He’s still young, so if some of Ironside’s hold up play rubs off in him in training you have a monster of a centre forward. These types are in short supply.
Billy in L1 at 40 isn’t going to cut it, sorry.

With regards to TSL, will he be on better money at Chelsea, even at his young age, than anyone we have on our books?
If so, how could we afford to bring him in full time or would he accept a big pay cut to come here.
Rob Street would be more affordable I guess and after his goal yesterday he celebrated right in front of us and was tapping his hand on the shirt badge, a la McGrath. Maybe a sign that he is enjoying himself and perhaps he might want to stay with us if we go up.
Finally, low block seems to be the latest buzz word, a bit like transition.

TSL won’t be on that much at Chelsea. Even if he was, if he was to demand more than a typical L1/L2 salary upon leaving he wouldn’t get a club.

Deffo affordable.

drfchound

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Re: A mature performance from a talented group of young players
« Reply #63 on February 02, 2025, 09:37:08 pm by drfchound »
A friend of mine was on the management team at Scunny a few years ago and they had a cup
match against one of the the top U21 PL teams.
He told me about one of the young “superstars” telling Scunny CF Kevin Van Veen that he could buy his house with a months wages after they had had a bit of a coming together during the game.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2025, 09:51:35 pm by drfchound »

NickDRFC

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Re: A mature performance from a talented group of young players
« Reply #64 on February 03, 2025, 06:54:49 am by NickDRFC »
A friend of mine was on the management team at Scunny a few years ago and they had a cup
match against one of the the top U21 PL teams.
He told me about one of the young “superstars” telling Scunny CF Kevin Van Veen that he could buy his house with a months wages after they had had a bit of a coming together during the game.


Young players aren’t on big contracts at Premier League clubs unless they’re in and around the first team. Plenty of players move from top PL clubs to L1 & L2 clubs - we signed Joe Olowu from Arsenal as a 21 year old, for example.
« Last Edit: February 03, 2025, 07:39:29 am by NickDRFC »

McCammon egg n chips

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But that's his opinion, which is what this forum is about.
I suggest you put him on block if he rattles you so easily.

Doesn’t ‘rattle’ me in the slightest in fact I’m more than happy to defend our players against any poster who I believe gives them unwarranted criticism on here.

He ‘sets himself up’ with outlandish statements so shouldn’t be surprised when he gets his ‘tail tugged’. No doubt he’ll be inviting me for a little chat over a burger perhaps before the game, just as he has to Pancho Regan on another thread.

I’ll bring my Imodium just in case

Why don’t you take your own advice & block me before you have an aneurysm.

Surely I can't be the only one 'rattled' by the constant 'inverted commas'

drfchound

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Re: A mature performance from a talented group of young players
« Reply #66 on February 03, 2025, 08:22:12 am by drfchound »
A friend of mine was on the management team at Scunny a few years ago and they had a cup
match against one of the the top U21 PL teams.
He told me about one of the young “superstars” telling Scunny CF Kevin Van Veen that he could buy his house with a months wages after they had had a bit of a coming together during the game.


Young players aren’t on big contracts at Premier League clubs unless they’re in and around the first team. Plenty of players move from top PL clubs to L1 & L2 clubs - we signed Joe Olowu from Arsenal as a 21 year old, for example.

I’m not saying that is wrong Nick, just repeating what was said at that time, which wasn’t so long back.
Edit:   It should be remembered that Van Veens house might have been in Scunthorpe.   ;)
« Last Edit: February 03, 2025, 08:26:25 am by drfchound »

Ian Nimmo

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Re: A mature performance from a talented group of young players
« Reply #67 on February 03, 2025, 09:26:57 am by Ian Nimmo »
I would image tsl could well be on somewhere about 10k per week.

adamtherover

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Re: A mature performance from a talented group of young players
« Reply #68 on February 03, 2025, 12:56:51 pm by adamtherover »
I would image tsl could well be on somewhere about 10k per week.
wasnt ethan galbraithe on 12k a week at man utd when we got him?

GM has already suggested hes on a right whack!!!!!

DonnyBazR0ver

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Re: A mature performance from a talented group of young players
« Reply #69 on February 03, 2025, 03:21:41 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
I would image tsl could well be on somewhere about 10k per week.
wasnt ethan galbraithe on 12k a week at man utd when we got him?

GM has already suggested hes on a right whack!!!!!

Yes, I thought I heard GM say something similar too in an interview but I can't remember when it was.

Anyway, these lads know if they drop down they won't be commanding silly money so depends what they want to do for their future.

MagicMartinoWoods

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Re: A mature performance from a talented group of young players
« Reply #70 on February 03, 2025, 04:25:07 pm by MagicMartinoWoods »
I think the last 6 games have shown us that the team finally knows how to beat most, if not all teams and the way they set up in this division. We may lose a couple on the way in but at least we can see that we now have answers to all options thrown at us.

I think we can just eek out a bit more clinical-ness in the box, we'll be smashing everybody in this league - think Sterry's chance through on goal, Kelly's hand-stinger, the Clifton/Gibson chance, Olowu's reaction shot (was that this game or one of the previous ones).

We're creating stuff - Saturday was the perfect game to show someone new to football how it's not just about possession. We were so much more effective with less of the  ball. If we can just convert a few more of those chances/shots we'd be blowing teams away.

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Re: A mature performance from a talented group of young players
« Reply #71 on February 03, 2025, 05:40:27 pm by TheFunk »
McCann confirmed at the Meet The Owners event that TSL earns a fortune.

drfchound

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Re: A mature performance from a talented group of young players
« Reply #72 on February 03, 2025, 05:47:08 pm by drfchound »
I think the last 6 games have shown us that the team finally knows how to beat most, if not all teams and the way they set up in this division. We may lose a couple on the way in but at least we can see that we now have answers to all options thrown at us.

I think we can just eek out a bit more clinical-ness in the box, we'll be smashing everybody in this league - think Sterry's chance through on goal, Kelly's hand-stinger, the Clifton/Gibson chance, Olowu's reaction shot (was that this game or one of the previous ones).

We're creating stuff - Saturday was the perfect game to show someone new to football how it's not just about possession. We were so much more effective with less of the  ball. If we can just convert a few more of those chances/shots we'd be blowing teams away.

There was also the Molyneux one which the keeper managed to get a hand to and deflect just wide.

ncRover

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Re: A mature performance from a talented group of young players
« Reply #73 on February 03, 2025, 05:50:38 pm by ncRover »
McCann confirmed at the Meet The Owners event that TSL earns a fortune.

I stand corrected!

ForsolongaRover

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Re: A mature performance from a talented group of young players
« Reply #74 on February 05, 2025, 03:09:21 pm by ForsolongaRover »
It is logical that Premier League clubs can afford to pay big money to all their playing staff who might prove to be capable of making the grade. They want to retain them whilst they have that potential and as we know their revenue stream is almost limitless.

Those who don’t develop to PL quality, and that’s the overwhelming majority, have to return to the real world where their worth is measured realistically by lower league standards. There they get paid something nearer their true economic value. Many even fail to meet League 2 standards. If you count the number of Goalkeepers on the books of PL and Championship clubs (6 at Chelsea alone and 3 or 4 at Hull I think as an example of a lower Championship club) there are not going to be enough places in the EFL for even half of them. We have seen enough examples of failed PL academy products here at Rovers as evidence of this.

Let’s hope TSL etc., have good financial advice as well as sensible people around them to help them manage their career progress without necessarily making financial rewards their top priority. As a possible contrast you might look at TLT and ask whether his advisers have struck the right balance between these factors?

 

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