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Author Topic: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?  (Read 2524 times)

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dickos1

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #30 on April 16, 2025, 08:34:20 am by dickos1 »
Off the top of my head Tiago cukur!
But we’ve made plenty of bad signings over the years, loan signings like these are very cheap, low risk signings



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oggycompton

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #31 on April 16, 2025, 12:56:13 pm by oggycompton »
A lot of strange ones. New contracts for people like Close and Westbrook who no longer exist and aren't in plans. Signing players on loan who he then doesn't play. How Crew doesn't get in that midfield I'll never know. Gibson has been good for me, gets criticised a lot but is decent, TSL been good also. Street been good.

The most annoying is the people leaving and I'm sure Olowu will be another to add to thatlistcome the end of the season, always left until last minute.

The football has been slow, ponderous and dire for a long time now and I am losing faith in the vision or style that we are supposed to be playing. Whoever it is who has brought them in, there are more failures than successes and they have been well and truly backed this season. After losing 3 million, will that happen next year?

sedwardsdrfc

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #32 on April 16, 2025, 09:27:13 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
Off the top of my head Tiago cukur!
But we’ve made plenty of bad signings over the years, loan signings like these are very cheap, low risk signings

I get they are cheap so no loss if it doesn’t work out. But it gets to me when they come in and displace our own players who are probably better. Why is Ennis here and Hurst sent away! There is no way Hurst wouldn’t contribute more. And didn’t he recently sign an extension. It’s just a weird way to try develop your own players.

Broadbent starts the season in the role he is now playing. All preseason like that. Then Kelly joins and is straight in the 11 in that position. It doesn’t really suit him there and he’s too lose with the ball giving away opportunities. But from memory he’s pretty much 1st choice there till around Jan. Then we sign Crew who starts a couple of games in that role again our own players overlooked.

And now we’re back to where we started and it turns out Broadbent isn’t the problem it’s that we have a structural issue in midfield.

We have a core of contracted players of an age where if we develop them they either grow with us or we can potentially sell. We should back them wherever possible not jump to the next shiny loanee who will be here all of 6 months. Just my opinion on loans I get they have a place just confused how we’ve used them recently

ForsolongaRover

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #33 on April 16, 2025, 10:37:00 pm by ForsolongaRover »
DO, I rope them in with Marsh from last season good players at u21s level good when on the ball and not dominant when not on the ball or strong enough.
  Decent ball control but easily knocked off the ball every coach is looking for the same thing teams like us need them when they have had experience of men's football not the nursery., the difference in Broadbent after playing regular is there for all to see with games  under his belt.
  Different positions but Flint and Faulkner are in front of them development wise, they have made a difference in the games I have watched them and dominated their man in the opposition.

Quite a few on here were wanting us to sign Louie Marsh, but he hasn’t pulled any trees up at Fleetwood since signing in Jan.

And you’re right about Crew. He’s struggled to get a game because he’s too lightweight and not brave enough. Look at the Chesterfield 1st goal here. Not exactly busting a gut to get back for their 3rd either?

https://youtu.be/NLgNltJNMLc?si=i8rL3qr_LSouo-WX

Like you say, academy football doesn’t prepare them for the physical side of the game anymore.

Loads of academy players move straight into Prem teams and look fantastic. They are there.

I know you’re a Stats man Gaz, but “loads”?? When I see the Nationalities alongside the team members my recollection is that often there are only a couple of UK players, occasionally less with 3 seemingly exceptional and even then they may not be from PL academies. Against that, Selby’s comments seem evidence-based from watching a lot of NL clubs and their loanees. It surely doesn’t amount to a generally satisfactory system. We saw with Schofield what a deadening effect modern coaching had on entertainment value. I suppose that real talent goes beyond methodology, but is powerful enforcement of “process” the right emphasis? By implication Selby would seem to disagree .

selby

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #34 on April 17, 2025, 11:42:05 am by selby »
  I have no doubt at all that if Gaz was asked to put a full squad of players together they would be at least competitive with our current squad if not better.
  The fact is not one person is ever going to have that say and some of the players would not be available.
  I am just pointing out that IMHO we as a club may have  stumbled on a better way forward for players when reaching 17yrs old than the academy system of u21s if they can do well at National North or National League level, Sam Brown, Bobby Faulkner, and Will Flint have all had excellent loans this season at national North level which is a good league, and all out of our own academy, while Close, Hurst, and the others have struggled to make an impression on loan and to be honest,  more or less what I would have expected having watched them all before going on loan and watched them all for two or three years or more in some cases.

selby

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #35 on April 17, 2025, 11:47:13 am by selby »
  On a side note I would like to know who brought the flying mop of hair from Brighton, and what system they used to get him in.
  My first thoughts were he should take up athletics as a sprinter but would never make a footballer while he had a hole in his backside.
  Todd Miller Schofield said we had been watching him for quite a while when we announced his signing, Christ on a bike I wouldn't like to admit that, just what were they watching, probably the same person who watched that great central defender Adam Long and we actually payed money for him, what a crock of S**te those two were.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2025, 12:07:03 pm by selby »

Pancho Regan

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #36 on April 17, 2025, 12:26:05 pm by Pancho Regan »
A lot of strange ones. New contracts for people like Close and Westbrook who no longer exist and aren't in plans. Signing players on loan who he then doesn't play. How Crew doesn't get in that midfield I'll never know. Gibson has been good for me, gets criticised a lot but is decent, TSL been good also. Street been good.

The most annoying is the people leaving and I'm sure Olowu will be another to add to thatlistcome the end of the season, always left until last minute.

The football has been slow, ponderous and dire for a long time now and I am losing faith in the vision or style that we are supposed to be playing. Whoever it is who has brought them in, there are more failures than successes and they have been well and truly backed this season. After losing 3 million, will that happen next year?

Street has been better than good, he has been exceptional. An inspired signing.
9 league goals in 18 games, the best scoring rate in League 2.


Padge_DRFC

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #37 on April 18, 2025, 07:20:04 am by Padge_DRFC »
Street has turned out the best signing of the lot in the end. Someone out there isn't daft that offered him a lengthy contract.

 

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