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[Filo]

With all this snow, it looks like Tuesdays game could be doubtful

[kittyslass]

Bet the powers that be didn't have the pitch covered!  :S

[ScillyRover]

Filo wrote:

With all this snow, it looks like Tuesdays game could be doubtful

Has there been much in Stainey Filo ?

[pkt_drfc]

Loads in Thorne Looks like it could be another cancelation again for Tuesday's match

[Filo]

ScillyRover wrote:

Filo wrote:

With all this snow, it looks like Tuesdays game could be doubtful

Has there been much in Stainey Filo ?

Nothing at all at 2am, then got up at 8am and there is about 2 inches and it`s still hammering it down

[jonrover]

Wouldn't be surprised if its caught the ground staff out because this certainly wasn't forecast. I had planned to go to Knowsley Safari Park today but I daren't risk it going over the hills as it will be worse than anything we get. If I'd have known I'd have gone yesterday.

[idler]

Wise decision Jonrover, it's about 3\" in Bradford and still coming down fast. I won't be getting the car out today.  

[The Red Baron]

Though obviously it has no relevance for Donny, we have had a few inches of snow around Birmingham this morning. Which came as a surprise, as there was no mention in the forecast.

I think the KMS pitch will be covered because the Dons were due to play today. Sounds like the snow will put paid to that.

The forecast now is for more snow in both the midlands and in Yorkshire tomorrow followed by sub-zero overnight temperatures. I would put the prospects for Tuesday as very slight- and tomorrow I will be asking my Wolves-supporting boss if he minds me cancelling my afternoon off on Tuesday if the game is off!

A postponement could be a blessing in disguise as the squad is stretched and the likes of Stock are finding three games in eight days hard work. Just hope the weather improves for Saturday- and a very winnable looking game against Palace.

[Filo]

Just been down for the papers and it`s about 3 inch deep now and still coming down heavy

[idler]

At least it gives a bit more atmosphere to the Winter Olympics on the telly.      

[hatfield red]

Went to work last night, booked Tuesday off, I've not got many days left so lets hope an early dicision is made.

[The Red Baron]

Just seen that the Dons game due for this afternoon is off.

Probably a good thing from the point of view of the pitch- it wouldn't have done it any good to have anyone playing on it when it is covered with snow.

[danrover82]

I cant see it being on to be honest. Its not just if the ground staff got it covered, its the surrounding area and I doubt very much that the Rovers will be able to clear the grounds it in time.

[Filo]

At the moment, I would say it`s too early to make a decision, thinking about it, if this snow can be kept on the pitch and then cleared on Tuesday morning, the pitch may well get natural protection from any frost we may have. There`s all day tommorrow to clear and grit around the stadium

[TheRev]

The BBC got it right (for once). This was forecast from last night 'til around lunch time today.

[GM-MarkB]

Sun is out here in Cantley and apart from the roof and bonnet, it's nearly all melted and fallen off me car. If anything i'll bet the pitch plays a bit soft on Tuesday

[BobG]

Bugger all snow here. Saw a smidge across the top of the Cotswolds this morning on the way to Cheltenham to see Rovers 2020 goalie perform but even that wasn't worth much. if you all blow very hard you might be able to get it to move down here. we all win then. You get to see the match and I get a day or two at home instead of the office. Luvverly.

BobG

PS Our future goalie is coming on. Remarkably brave - especially as I had always thought him a bit of a wuss. Needs stronger wrists yet though.

[Boycie]

If it aint covered I can't see us having much chance of playing, anything from -2 to -4 tonight, with a cold 3 degrees tomorrow.

[Superspy]

supposedly -2 on monday night too, but at least on the flip side its a night game so we'll have the whole of tuesday to let the pitch thaw out and try and sort the surrounding areas of the ground.

[Filo]

Boycie wrote:

If it aint covered I can't see us having much chance of playing, anything from -2 to -4 tonight, with a cold 3 degrees tomorrow.

Much prefer a warm 3 degrees

[The Red Baron]

Rigoglioso wrote:

The snow now has turned into that horrible slushy stuff because of the rain that's fallen. If it's frosty tonight then it could be dangerous with ice tomorrow.

Hopefully if the pitch was covered last night (I'll try and find out if it was or not), the game should be OK for Tuesday night.

If it does get postponed, the next available date is Tuesday 30th March!

Not strictly true Rigo. OUR next free date is 30th March, but Leicester are playing Cardiff that day. With Easter to come we'd be looking at 13th April.

I'm guessing that the pitch WAS covered because of the Dons game scheduled for this afternoon. The snow on top of the covers will help protect the pitch from the frost. Looks like the snow will miss Donny tomorrow. This morning I thought it would definitely be off: now, I think 50:50.

Global warming? LMFAO!

[BillyStubbsTears]

The Red Baron wrote:

Global warming? LMFAO!

Like Donny's erudite Mayor, you, me old mucker are confusing \"climate\" with \"weather\". As in, just because it's cold here and now, doesn't mean that it's cold everywhere and always.

Easy mistake for Little Englanders to make of course, but just because we're the most important people in the world, it doesn't mean that everyone shares our weather.

1976 for example, when we basked in a heatwave, was (globally) the second coolest year in the last 80 years.

As for the recent past, while we've been shivering, Western Australia has just had its 3rd hottest January on record.

Northwestern USA has just had its fifth warmest January on record.

And initial results indicate that the average ocean temperature across the globe was the second highest ever recorded in January.

Global warming is a fact despite the fashion to sneer, and despite the stupidity and arrogance of the bell-ends at UEA. It is still a f**king great big problem for us to deal with, and it won't go away by claiming that it's all a big leftie conspiracy.

And of course, it's long been predicted that one of the bizarre consequences of global warming will probably be to give us much colder winters in future, due to the potential weakening of the Gulf Stream. Maybe we should have invested in undersoil heating after all.

[The Red Baron]

BillyStubbsTears wrote:

The Red Baron wrote:

Global warming? LMFAO!

Like Donny's erudite Mayor, you, me old mucker are confusing \"climate\" with \"weather\". As in, just because it's cold here and now, doesn't mean that it's cold everywhere and always.

Easy mistake for Little Englanders to make of course, but just because we're the most important people in the world, it doesn't mean that everyone shares our weather.

1976 for example, when we basked in a heatwave, was (globally) the second coolest year in the last 80 years.

As for the recent past, while we've been shivering, Western Australia has just had its 3rd hottest January on record.

Northwestern USA has just had its fifth warmest January on record.

And initial results indicate that the average ocean temperature across the globe was the second highest ever recorded in January.

Global warming is a fact despite the fashion to sneer, and despite the stupidity and arrogance of the bell-ends at UEA. It is still a fcuking great big problem for us to deal with, and it won't go away by claiming that it's all a big leftie conspiracy.

And of course, it's long been predicted that one of the bizarre consequences of global warming will probably be to give us much colder winters in future, due to the potential weakening of the Gulf Stream. Maybe we should have invested in undersoil heating after all.

My throwaway remark was actually directed at whoever decided that because of \"global warming\" the KMS did not need undersoil heating. However, I am rather sceptical about it all. Anyone can extrapolate data (as the UEA crowd did) to prove almost anything. Why, this technique was even used to persuade MPs to commit us to war in Iraq.

I suspect that if we have a \"barbeque summer\" this year  then the global warming advocates will use it as grist to their mill.

Anyway, wouldn't one expect Western Australia to be hot in January? It is their equivalent of July!

[Thinwhiteduke]

Climate change happens perfectly naturally every few thousand years or so anyway doesnt it?

Correct me is Im wrong but wasnt the whole of Northern Europe covered by a huge Ice sheet a number of millenia ago, that partially led to the formation of our little Island?

Im yet to be convinced that what is happening with our weather, and climate, isnt simply nature taking its couse.....again.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Natural processes do affect the climate TWD, no doubt about that. The issue about human-influenced global warming is that the rate of increase of average global temperature has been spectacualr and pretty much unprecedented over the last 100-150 years. For example, over the last 2000 years, the average global temperature has varied slowly by something less than 1C. Around 1AD, global conditions were relatively cool - by the time of the Battle of Hastings, the average global tempaerature was about 0.75degrees warmer, then temperatures slowly dropped by 1 degree until by the 16-1700s, we were having a mini Ice Age, with the Thames freezing over most winters for example.

These changes are caused by natural effects over long periods. Different output from the sun, volcanic eruptions putting dust into the atmosphere, etc. The extraordinary thing about the last 150 years is that global temperature has gone through the roof. From being way under the long-term trend in 1850, we have had an pretty much consistent increase in temperature to the point that average temperatures now are about 0.5degrees hotter than at any time in the last 2000 years.

Just to take a tiny local example, data from the Sheffield weather station: In the last 130 years, the maximum daily temperature (taken as an average over a year) from that station is 12.8degrees. The annual average maximum temp has exceeded 13.5degree only 22 times in that 130 years. 14 of those times have happened in the last 21 years. Even 2008, which was a bloody awful cold and wet year around here was warmer than 36 of the years from 1900-1950.

So:

1) We know that atmospheric CO2 has a greenhouse effect.
2) We know that the levels of CO2 in the atmosphere are significantly higher now than they were in pre-industrial times.
3) We know that since CO2 levels strarted to increase significantly, there has been an unprecedented increase in global temperature.

It's possible that these aren't linked, but I know where my money is.


TRB: Of course WA should expect hot weather at this time of the year. Whether they should expect the 3rd hottest January of all time is another matter. Wehether Northwestern USA should expect its fifth mildest (winter) January of all time, ditto.

[BobG]

What always baffles me when the sceptics make their case is their inability to remember their own past. For anyone over, say, 30 years of age, the difference between your life as a child and your life now is inescapable. Climate, and weather, have changed noticeably in that short time. Think back to winters in the 1960's, 1970's. Compare those to winters in the late 90's and since. Chalk and cheese. Think back to summers in those various times. Again, they are vastly, vastly different.

Now why these changes have been so marked you can always argue about I suppose. But unless and until someone comes up with a credible alternative to global warming that explains the terrifying pace of these changes as well as their reason for happening at all, well... It's a no brainer.

My suggestion for you all? Go read 'The Kraken Wakes' by John Wyndham. Now there was a prescient bloke if ever there was one. And it's bloody scary.

BobG