The Problem with English Footballers!

[Filo]

The reason English players do not appear as technical as the foreign players is plain and simple! The English coaching methods! We are too rigid in our coaching methods, we do not encourage individuality, any technical talent is coached out of young players as soon as the so called professionals take over the coaching of a youngster from the coaches of junior teams.Until we embrace flair players and encourage them to take responsibility, we as a footballing nation will be always second rate!

[Thinwhiteduke]

Filo wrote:

The reason English players do not appear as technical as the foreign players is plain and simple! The English coaching methods! We are too rigid in our coaching methods, we do not encourage individuality, any technical talent is coached out of young players as soon as the so called professionals take over the coaching of a youngster from the coaches of junior teams.Until we embrace flair players and encourage them to take responsibility, we as a footballing nation will be always second rate!

Agreed. Couple that with the fact that its no good telling twelve year old kids that they are geniuses (a la Rooney), when they clearly arent.

I keep coming back to him as he was the biggest dissapointment for me in our campaign. I'll maintain he is not World Class, to even utter his name in the same breath as Forlan, Messi, Kaka, or even Ronaldo is frankly ludicrous.

[rovinrover52]

OVERPAID & LAZY

[fudgepacker]

Personally I think we should keep together the good young England sides. the U21's seem to do well when the tournaments come around, so do the even younger sides. Bring them all through together and keep a couple of the older experiences players and drop the rest.

Ghana kept together their U20's side which has been there or there abouts for the last few youth tournaments and they got a hungry, organised side during this world cup.

At least the young players will want to play for their country and want to put a good performance in.

[not on facebook]

big problem is within the prem and how many english players
ply their trade in the prem.

look at the normal top four for instance

man utdx2 to which ferdinand went out with injury

chelseax3

arsenalx0

liverpoolx2 of which jamie carrigger came in for ferdinand

the arsenal stat is shocking,not putting the blame on arsenal
but the powers that be have to start looking after the game
on the home front much much better

[RobTheRover]

fudgepacker wrote:

Personally I think we should keep together the good young England sides. the U21's seem to do well when the tournaments come around, so do the even younger sides. Bring them all through together and keep a couple of the older experiences players and drop the rest.

Ghana kept together their U20's side which has been there or there abouts for the last few youth tournaments and they got a hungry, organised side during this world cup.

At least the young players will want to play for their country and want to put a good performance in.

Did you see the U21s v Greece at the Keepmoat?  No thank you.  Stuart Pearce had the defence bypassing midfield and hitting Andy Carroll's head with 40-50 yard straight balls.  Truly awful.

Keep Capello
Sack Pearce
Retire every England player over 30 as they wont be around for the next European Championship let alone the next World Cup, and build with players who will play for the shirt, not themselves.

[River Don]

oslorovers wrote:

big problem is within the prem and how many english players
ply their trade in the prem.

look at the normal top four for instance

man utdx2 to which ferdinand went out with injury

chelseax3

arsenalx0

liverpoolx2 of which jamie carrigger came in for ferdinand

the arsenal stat is shocking,not putting the blame on arsenal
but the powers that be have to start looking after the game
on the home front much much better

It isn't the top fours fault that England is producing good enough footballers to work with though. It's the FAs fault, it's their programs and initiatives that are meant to mould the raw talent, they who coach the coaches, they preside over the vast expanse of English grass roots football.

[CusworthRovers]

In my opinion we need a bank of Coaching staff that are employed by the FA and not attached to any football club.

We need a local centre of excellence that is not fixed to a pro club, where all these FA Coach's are based.

The technically gifted kids should be scouted and then invited to play at this C of E. At this centre kids should be continually taught pass and move, space awareness, skills. runs, passing etc etc. They should play non competitive 5 a side games against each other with the onus on getting the ball from A to B.

The kids should have classroom based sessions too.


By the time they reach 16 we may have a new breed of player who is technically very good, and we may have thousands of them to unleash. It's here that we then need to sort allocation to the pro clubs, and the pro-clubs to continue this development. This is where it would all go wrong in this current climate.


One thing that needs bearing in mind. Didn't England get to the final of the Euro U19's comp last season and aren't they again in the finals.

[fudgepacker]

The U17's are also very good I hear

[DonnyBazR0ver]

The likes of SOD should be invited to assist in the coaching of the youth. In fact I'm sure SOD could change the whole structure for the benefit of the future of English football.