Reading vs Rovers

[Dagenham Rover]

VikingJames wrote:

Dagenham.Rover wrote:

VikingJames wrote:

Dagenham.Rover wrote:

VikingJames wrote:

What does it matter whether it was a free kick or not? If we'd have defended properly for goals 1 and 2 then it wouldn't have been an issue.

So frustrating.

It matters as yet again basic decisions are got wrong,
These are the decisions that cost managers there jobs, teams promotion and relegation and millions of pounds

Wether we were defending well or not, we would not have lost except for the referee and linesman getting a basic decision wrong.

Officials need to be brought to task when simple things are called wrongly
and by what the commentators said the linesman went extremely red faced when the ref played on but didn't have the balls to do anything

So let me get this straight then. We lost the game because the referee gave a soft free kick, and not because we were inept at the back and conceded three simple goals.

There's too much of a blame culture towards referees in football, when it's actually our own fault that we lost because we can't defend.

Thats not what I was saying at all, yes we were poor defending, the point is that goal would not have been scored if the ref had called it correctly and the lino had the balls to flag after he realised the ref had not seen the ball go out of play. basic obvious decisions  wrong. according to the commentary  they reckoned the lino thought the ref was going to blow and was totally red faced afterwards.
Having said that we would probably have given our throw in away and conceded from that

Yes you were.

You said: \"We would not have lost except for the referee and linesman getting a basic decision wrong.\"

Lets face it, whether the decision was right or wrong, it is no excuse. To lose 4-3 after being 3-1 up with half an hour left is inexcusable.

I'd rather SOD concentrate his energies on the training ground and the transfer market than in complaining about the officials!

Ok lets put it a slightly different way
Doncaster Rovers slumped to a 4-3 defeat after being 3-1 up due to sloppy defending  

 However the referee and linesman played a big part in this defeat by getting a  basic decision wrong by allowing play to go on after the ball went out of play.

btw I totally agree we should not have let them back into the game.

Marginal decisions fair enough, obvious basic decisions they must be called correctly.
As I said according to the commentary the lino went very red faced,  he knew and did jack all about it !!!

and officials need to be brought to task when they get things blatently wrong

[RoversAlias]

Wasn't one of our goals similar in controversy over the correct/incorrect awarding of a free kick?

Might be wrong, but I'm sure Jacqui Oatley said something about this on the BBC concerning either Hayter or Martis' goal.

[I-was-there1976]

we lost because Reading's number 13 is a match winner  

[Dagenham Rover]

I don't think anything was said on player about it

[Akinfenwa]

Dagenham.Rover wrote:

I don't think anything was said on player about it

BBC said that Brian Howard clearly got the ball for the free kick that Martis scored from.

[Dagenham Rover]

Ok yet again crap for everybody, but whats new

[CusworthRovers]

For all the 'Oster should never have come off crowd', have we considered he may have tired. He's no spring chicken. Yes he gets around the pitch a lot during the game and very effective, but after that and towards the end, he finds it difficult to sustain and does seem to tire, especially with the work-rate required of our midfield. This is why we can afford Oster, if he did what he did for 90mins, he wouldn't be at Donny.

As for Oster keeping it all together, putting a foot on the ball and holding it, playing the smart ball, slowing it down, calming it down etc etc......I would say not. I would attribute that comment to Stock or Woods. Osters skill is seeing the quick ball or him moving with the ball quickly and making the team move quicker. Just my opinion


It's nothing new, Oster coming off. We've done it many times and got a result. We have been on the back foot second half against the majority of teams thus far (as they work us out, is another reason) this season and we have scraped by. It unfortunately and very frustratingly never happened in this one, some you win, some you lose.

[CusworthRovers]

VivaRovers wrote:

Rovers starting line-up (with Halloween theme); 
Neil SulliVan-Helsing, 
Mustapha Dumbuyaaaaarrgh, 
Shelton Rigor-Martis
James O'Corroner
Joseph 'Satanic' Mills
John GhOster
Brian Shock
Martin something-lurking-in-the-Woods
Jamie Coffinger
Dean Squeals
James Hayter-brains-with-some-limer-beans-and-a-nice-chianti

On the haunted bench;
Gary theres-definately-something-lurking-in-the-Woods,
Wayne Thomassscre
Byron spiders-Webster
Mark Wilson-of-the-devil
 James Chambers-of-horrors
Sam Hird-a-creepy-noise-downstairs

Nice one mate. Of course you never included our management:

Sean wO'oo  oooooh, wO'oo  ooooooh Driscoll
Richard O' K hell y

or

Waide 'Young Frankenstein' Fairhust

although back in the day

JJ 'Vincent' Price and Dave 'Penney for the guy' may have featured

[Filo]

From SOD on DROS

To go 3-1 up, we thought we could add another defender to sure things up,

That is the problem! forget dodgy refereeing decisions! By stopping doing the things that got you into a winning position, you`ve handed the initiative to the opposition! We see it time and time again, sometimes we get away with it, sometimes we don`t, but what always happens when we try that tactic is we get on the back foot! FFS play the game in the oppositions half not your own!

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

I actually think SOD did the right thing by changing it as we were getting overrun.  Where he got it wrong was bringing an extra centre back on, when really Wilson would have been a better option.  I'm not sure Oster was the right one to take off either.

[Dagenham Rover]

Taken from SOD's interview on DROS exactly what I was trying to say without SOD's eloquence  


\"The linesman wasn't looking, which is annoying, but I suppose that if he didn't see it he can't give it. We shouldn't be talking about throws. There are tight offside decisions and fouls that could go either way; but not throws.\"

[hoolahoop]

Fact is that Wilson was the correct replacement for Oster (presuming he was tiring of course).
Very rarely do I criticise SO'D but yesterday he made a bad call of that there is no doubt, referee aside.
Incidentally , putting all of this into perspective, we scored 3 in a row away from home and so did they........that's football.
Bring on .........the WALL. Time to make amends.

[PDX_Rover]

Any way you dice the game, we *should* have come away with a point - Reading's winner was as clear a case of offside as I have ever seen.  f**king shocking that the officials missed that.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

In the 74 th minute the home team were awarded a free kick 25yards out just to the right of centre. Just perfect for that ace free kick merchant HARTE. So it proved as he fired into the near top corner. Minutes later McAnuff fired shot over from 20yards. There was worse to come in the 88th minute when the home team broke down their left. Hunt was a yard offside as were his two team-mates in the middle but no flag from the linesman. The cross came in and CHURCH just had to stab in to clinch the win for Reading

From the official match report.

You can blame bad defending or Oster's substitution all you want.

1. The home team were awarded a free kick. We didn't commit a foul. Even Reading fans said it was ball to hand and, it wasn't even his hand !!

2. Winning goal 3 players offside.

The officials got key decisions wrong and we paid dearly.

Other than that (and first goal which was poor defending) we were excellent !!

Time to move on.