Another loss making SMC, not ours

[Filo]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-14392589

[silent majority]

And they have exactly the same problems in day to day running as we do! Its so obvious that this model doesn't work.

[Standanista]

They've seen the glint of the Premiership millions and they want a bit of it.

[AbsolutDRFC]

But are SMC's there to be profit centres or cost centres?
Yes, there are additional revenue streams to be earned, but are more generated off the back of the teams that play there.

If you took away the horse racing aspect from Doncaster Racecourse, does the actual land & buildings make a profit?
Are the land & buildings there to make a profit, or is it there to support the main contributor (i.e. the race meetings).

Lots is made of whether SMC's are loss-making; particularly mischief making media outlets (Radio Sheffield and Look Leeds)....

If you strip a lot of business operations down to the bone, there are always some areas which perceive to be loss making, but it's the support (as infrastructure) that they provide for the greater good.

Wembley is another example; on a much larger scale. That struggles more, because it's main tenant only provides it with 20-25 games per year......

[Standanista]

But are SMC's there to be profit centres or cost centres?

That's a good question.  There is an argument that SMCs are set up to take the flack and fireproof both the council and club from any losses.

[jonnydog]

Just going off topic slightly, I was talking to a mate last night in pub who said that the income from refreshments/snap from the Keepmoat goes into Rovers pocket. Is this true?

[GM-MarkB]

And they have exactly the same problems in day to day running as we do! Its so obvious that this model doesn't work.

.....so ask yourself this...

If Winter & the Council hadn't built the Keepmoat, where do you think Rovers would be now ?

[idler]

BELLE VUE?

[silent majority]

And they have exactly the same problems in day to day running as we do! Its so obvious that this model doesn't work.

.....so ask yourself this...

If Winter & the Council hadn't built the Keepmoat, where do you think Rovers would be now ?

Mark,

I'm talking about the managerial structure, the asset, the management and the tenants, none of which seems to work. The friends I have at Swansea tell me about the very same problems we have, ticketing, lack of input, not having control over the pitch and its use, not being able to train when required etc etc.

So ask yourself this, where would be be if we had control over the stadium?

[silent majority]

BELLE VUE?

And in a lot better shape than we are now.

We should have developed Belle Vue, we had the space. The chief stumbling block was the perceived asset value of that site, what it could fetch in open sale to be used as development for luxury flats or an Asda extension. What is its value today??

[Wellred]

And they have exactly the same problems in day to day running as we do! Its so obvious that this model doesn't work.

.....so ask yourself this...

If Winter & the Council hadn't built the Keepmoat, where do you think Rovers would be now ?

Now that is a good question. Rovers wanted to build their own 20k stadium and had got the ok from the police and finance from the bank but were told by the council they would never get planning permission for it as the council wanted to build their own stadium.............allegedly.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

And they have exactly the same problems in day to day running as we do! Its so obvious that this model doesn't work.

.....so ask yourself this...

If Winter & the Council hadn't built the Keepmoat, where do you think Rovers would be now ?

Now that is a good question. Rovers wanted to build their own 20k stadium and had got the ok from the police and finance from the bank but were told by the council they would never get planning permission for it as the council wanted to build their own stadium.............allegedly.

Not true.

JR was often in protracted secret negotiations with the council whilst at the same time, both parties were still having to deal with Westferry (Richardson). Negotiations were extremely delicate but in Martin Winter, JR had someone he could work with and I applaud both for getting us to where we are.

Had it not been for some unfortunate, unforeseen delays we would have had the Plan A Stadium with the floating roof. In addition, the council went against consultants advice for the location of the stadium as it's current lakeside setting was seen as a more lucrative site for other developments.

I believe had we not moved, not only would there not be a Belle Vue, there may not have been a DRFC!

[GM-MarkB]

And they have exactly the same problems in day to day running as we do! Its so obvious that this model doesn't work.

.....so ask yourself this...

If Winter & the Council hadn't built the Keepmoat, where do you think Rovers would be now ?

Mark,

I'm talking about the managerial structure, the asset, the management and the tenants, none of which seems to work. The friends I have at Swansea tell me about the very same problems we have, ticketing, lack of input, not having control over the pitch and its use, not being able to train when required etc etc.

So ask yourself this, where would be be if we had control over the stadium?

Sorry it was just a general question, I wasn't being specific about any aspect of the stadium or its running.

And I tend to agree with Baz...the club would in schtuck...but that's just my opinion

Oh and as for the bit i've put in bold....you really don't want me to answer that