Time for a new approach from the vsc and club?

[godlike1]

I don't have a fancy software graphics package but could those of you who manage to do the mock up of possible shirts put your skills to a more focused element such as making my idea more attractive/ useable?

We could then using the amazing team of vsc volunteers get the posters put up in pubs and shops and help give the club a more positive push to get the fans through the gates.  Hopefully Saturday won't be too soon?

Let me know your thoughts
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that did not work, how about this:
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Sodding hell, wanting to put a mock up of the your country needs you poster but changing it to Rovers need you with JR the man in the hat

It could just be the rovers badge with the finger pointing out and same slogan and then game details with ticket prices

Anyway just an idea and I think great if it could be done so if anyone can help I would be very greatful

[MrFrost]

Good idea.

A real shame the club hasn;t bothered to advertise the fantastic offer on tickets for this weekend.

[yapper1901]

Guess u missed the 20 min rant from jr on radio Sheffield advertising the offer

[Snods Shinpad 2]

I've not got the time to knock up a JR/Palace one, but the old donnybob poster does the job.

[MrFrost]

Guess u missed the 20 min rant from jr on radio Sheffield advertising the offer

What did he have to say?
I wonder what percentage of the Doncaster population will have been listening at the time of his \"rant\"

[askernred]

Guess u missed the 20 min rant from jr on radio Sheffield advertising the offer

When was this interview please? I would like to have a listen to it myself? Any idea what point during football heaven it was? (if indeed it was)

Cheers

[bobjimwilly]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p00k48bh/Football_Heaven_20_09_2011/

@ 30m55s

[godlike1]

That is great snod. Not quite what I think we could potentially create which issomething that could be linked to rovers alone but if we could get some printed of and in shop windows and pubs around the whole town and suburbs then it will get peoples attention that's for sure.

Is there anyway in seeing if gartom or rob think this idea is a goer?

[Filo]

You know I`ve just listened to that and it`s the same old line is n`t it, a pop at people for not attending games, yes this weekend`s fixture is a good deal but fans have been driven away by the high price of other fixture`s, they find other things to do on a Saturday. The root cause needs addressing not the odd cut price game, the problem is pricing strategy was completely wrong and set by someone with an accountants thinking!

[Hag]

Oops I was working on the wrong fella in the hat

[img size=558x759]http://http://www.skellowgrange.com/images/SirJohn.jpg[/img]

[Hag]

Oops I was working on the wrong fella in the hat


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[DonnyBazR0ver]

You know I`ve just listened to that and it`s the same old line is n`t it, a pop at people for not attending games, yes this weekend`s fixture is a good deal but fans have been driven away by the high price of other fixture`s, they find other things to do on a Saturday. The root cause needs addressing not the odd cut price game, the problem is pricing strategy was completely wrong and set by someone with an accountants thinking!

You'd think the penny would have dropped. Please end this discrimination. Time for \"Fair Pay in Football!\". A fair price, irrespective of date, opponent or kick off time.

[Mr1Croft]

You know I`ve just listened to that and it`s the same old line is n`t it, a pop at people for not attending games, yes this weekend`s fixture is a good deal but fans have been driven away by the high price of other fixture`s, they find other things to do on a Saturday. The root cause needs addressing not the odd cut price game, the problem is pricing strategy was completely wrong and set by someone with an accountants thinking!

You'd think the penny would have dropped. Please end this discrimination. Time for \"Fair Pay in Football!\". A fair price, irrespective of date, opponent or kick off time.

The thing is our season ticket number drops every season, and comments like this aren't gonna pursuade the average swinging supporter to attend more games, there just gonna stay away...

[MrFrost]

And what has the club done to promote the fact that prices are cheap this weekend?
You'd be hard pressed to find any info unless you were on this forum.

EDIT just listened. Joke of an interview. Drawing comparisons to Arsenal for Christs sake. No real meaningful questions from the journo.

I'd be probing about the director situation.

Also JR's usual knocking of the Doncaster Public. Nice one John advertising the game on Saturday at the knock down prices. Maybe you should inform the marketing team, as they don't seem to be aware of it.

[JoeyRover]

Hi guys, I never really post (as you can probably see), but im a full time graphic designer and illustrator and dont mind devoting a couple of hours a week to the Rovers cause. I cant see the poster created by godlike right now, as my works computer doesnt display this site in full (not sure why?) Id love to see the vision and possibly come up with something based around it.

Ive recently set up a website with some of my personal work on there, if anyone would like to check it out. It is mainly 'fun' illustration and animation stuff I put on there, because the work I do on a day to day basis is owned by the company, so unfortunatly, I cant display that online without risk of loosing my job.

Anyhow, if somebody wants to drop me an email with some sort of 'brief' attached, Im willing to lend a hand with the design side of things.

www.allthebignames.com
joeym3010@gmail.com

[Keith Myath]

Around 5 Years ago i made three posters, one exactly like the one being discuused here, another one Saying support your home town team (trying to instill some civic pride) and another, based on the same theme but mocking fans who support teams of other towns.

My idea was to display these on the entry exit billboards into the town, i even mocked them up to show what they were like by superimposing the designs on actual pictures.

A few phone calls later i was fobed off and was pretty infuriated with the women, name escapes me who seemed to be in charge of marketing at the time, i was offering services for free and in the end just left it.

Unfortunately i think the designs are lost for good, sadly i think the time has passed and instead of building on the then sucess we had, Cant see many fans regardless of how good a poster is wanting to watch a team get beat every week.

[Wade Falana]

Just out of interest Frosty where would you liked to see the offer marketed? This was only announced Monday/Tuesday so you've not got a lot of options to hit a lot of people.

Free Press deadline for ad is Tuesday dinner (artwork to draw up so could be in this weeks addition but again its cost)

Radio Sheff, your not going to get better than what John did last night.

Trax FM, I've heard a standard \"game this weekend\" ad going out. I'm sure Steve or Paul will give it a plug on their Rovers show on Thursday. Maybe JR would go on again.

Billboards, 3 to 6 months to reserve the prime locations.

What the club need to do IMO is target a game and give themselves a bit of time, say the Coventry or Watford games coming up. The £30 family ticket is a great idea but you do need to give the public a bit more notice.

[MrFrost]

Just out of interest Frosty where would you liked to see the offer marketed? This was only announced Monday/Tuesday so you've not got a lot of options to hit a lot of people.

Free Press deadline for ad is Tuesday dinner (artwork to draw up so could be in this weeks addition but again its cost)

Radio Sheff, your not going to get better than what John did last night.

Trax FM, I've heard a standard \"game this weekend\" ad going out. I'm sure Steve or Paul will give it a plug on their Rovers show on Thursday. Maybe JR would go on again.

Billboards, 3 to 6 months to reserve the prime locations.

What the club need to do IMO is target a game and give themselves a bit of time, say the Coventry or Watford games coming up. The £30 family ticket is a great idea but you do need to give the public a bit more notice.

If your going to try and make a point, get your facts right for a start. The prices for this game were announced weeks ago.
Plenty of time for a large Free Press ad, a banner up on the road next to the stadium, a leaflet drop (as the VSC have proved works), promoting through local business, etc etc.

But please get facts right to start with, it wasn't announced Monday or Tuesday, it was weeks ago.

EDIT - here is the evidence - it was announced on the 30th August http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=999999&id=180292&Itemid=108

[Wade Falana]

Fair play i'd not seen that. You can only assume that the DRFC marketing department hasn't got a massive budget to play with.

[vaya]

And what has the club done to promote the fact that prices are cheap this weekend?
You'd be hard pressed to find any info unless you were on this forum.

EDIT just listened. Joke of an interview. Drawing comparisons to Arsenal for Christs sake. No real meaningful questions from the journo.

I'd be probing about the director situation.

Also JR's usual knocking of the Doncaster Public. Nice one John advertising the game on Saturday at the knock down prices. Maybe you should inform the marketing team, as they don't seem to be aware of it.

People in glass houses Frosty, you're wont to lay into our own support. Alienating people who've already turned up could be just as damaging as alienating potential followers.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

You'd think the penny would have dropped. Please end this discrimination. Time for \"Fair Pay in Football!\". A fair price, irrespective of date, opponent or kick off time.


The thing is our season ticket number drops every season, and comments like this aren't gonna pursuade the average swinging supporter to attend more games, there just gonna stay away...

Sorry Mr Croft, not quite sure what you mean?

[Berkshire Rover]

I know it's a hoary old chestnut, but I've had 2 e- mails from the club promoting the ticket offer. I'm told the e- mail goes to c. 20,000 people yet we still have lots of people who don't receive it, bizarre!

Are there any database management specialists on here that would be prepared to help? The best opportunity will be when / if we get our hands on the Keepmoat so that we can link the ticket office database, with the clubs equivalent maybe even throw in the club shops (assuming data protection allows it)

[godlike1]

Hi Joey

I've sent you the image by e-mail which hopefully you can do something with or create your own version.

To the others who have changed the main thought of the thread to their own means which is that for once stop the moaning and bitching and put your efforts and energy onto something positive and creative for a change

[DonnyBazR0ver]

I know it's a hoary old chestnut, but I've had 2 e- mails from the club promoting the ticket offer. I'm told the e- mail goes to c. 20,000 people yet we still have lots of people who don't receive it, bizarre!

Are there any database management specialists on here that would be prepared to help? The best opportunity will be when / if we get our hands on the Keepmoat so that we can link the ticket office database, with the clubs equivalent maybe even throw in the club shops (assuming data protection allows it)

Like you say Steve, an old chestnut going back to the very same issues last season when Gareth and Rob met up with JR and having the debate about how far in advance they should be promoting matches.

I notice the Coventry match on 29/10/11 has been categorised at Cat 2 - £22 Adults and £5 kids. Perhaps scope there to include this fixture on the promotional material as well.

I think we know the weaknesses in all this and it just seems we're left with hanging on for when DRFC choose to release prices, when other clubs have already committed by releasing prices for all their matches (including offers).

As you know we put much vigour in to this last season. My hope was that lessons had to be learned to avoid the need for us to have to run around like this.  

I notice the mobile billboard is still parked up in the Keepmoat compound. Would it be too much to ask the club if they can 'borrow' it from the SMC for a few days!! Mind you, if they can't put the prices up outside the ground on the static boards, what chance have we got !

I love the artwork and the ideas that godlike are coming up with and I'm sure impact can be made but, is Shaun helping us by making you aware of the plans for the offers before going to press so we can plan the campaigns?

Don't rightly care if anyone sees this is a whinge or a moan, it's just an observation.

[benaldo]

Perhaps the answer lies in the club planning it's pricing in advance instead of it being all over the place at very short notice? I still don't agree with the silly (Everyone in for feck all) game at the end of last season. It hasn't worked - no additional fans have turned up in numbers as a result of that expensive giveaway. Price the games at the start of the season and stick to it. Easy isn't it?

The VSC has a very limited role in the running of the club I imagine and I suppose its only advantage (But not an insignificant one) is the \"word of mouth\" selling of the club by its members. Other than that I don't see what else its done up to now? Has the VSC co-ordinated any marketing over and above word of mouth? If not, thats fine, but I guess the VSC haven't really been helped by the club due to its constant knee jerking at its finances and pricing?

I'm sure a supporter body has a lot to offer the club (ie the small share injection) and perhaps the answer lies in numbers - like merging with the DRSC? History tells us that numbers matter, and perhaps a co-ordinated approach by the VSC and the DRSC might hold the key?

[Berkshire Rover]

Benaldo , you really should join us, you've just summed things up pretty well, we have done some more concerted marketing in the past, but it has been sporadic and tactically focussed on certain matches which as you say is difficult to plan because of last minute pricing.

We haven't given up the ghost and will be raising it again shortly with the club.

[benaldo]

Please don't think I was having a go, I wasn't. I think people power is stronger than we know. Then again what do I know, 355 time \"worlds worst poster\", yaddaa, yaddaa.

I really should join you know.

[Berkshire Rover]

I didn't think you were having a go, you echo a point the VSC has made many times, the more members we have the more influence we have.

You really should join,

Apart from anything else it would dent the argument that we are all happy clappers!

[yapper1901]

Benaldo , you really should join us, you've just summed things up pretty well, we have done some more concerted marketing in the past, but it has been sporadic and tactically focussed on certain matches which as you say is difficult to plan because of last minute pricing.

We haven't given up the ghost and will be raising it again shortly with the club.

Can I ask though why we keep raising it with the club
Why if the club won't listen why not advise jr that because of this the vsc will no longer
Contribute to the club in player sponsorship and other things
And use the money to Organise a proper marketing effort for the season
Obviously this would be a last a last resort to sever the ties with jr but how can the chairman and
And other members of board of the vsc continue to give members fees to the club when it quite
Obvious things have to change

We see post after post on here and the club just don't listen and then to here jr on the radio
Slagging people off who won't pay £29 a game with the odd special offer
He feels it his right to slag people off just because he has ploughed money into the club
But it doesn't he has choose to do this as a fan

He needs to wake up and realise the root of the problem is not having special offers
It's about setting a price you can live with and stick to it. And over time people will
Come back to the club

I honestly believe £20 a game no more no less is a good price point. And people would know what they were paying every
Saturday and could plan game to game.