Are DMBC to blame for Directors walking?

[MrFrost]

Ryan pretty much admitted any deal was uncertain.

It will happen, simple as that.

And if it does, how will Rovers turn a £2 million loss making venue into something making profit? With the club already losing 5 million a year, would it really be a good business decision to take on the KMS now? Especially with the loss of our wealthiest backers?

[hoolahoop]

There are plans afoot...........

[benaldo]

Frost, are you a Doncaster Rovers fan or an internet troll?

[MrFrost]

Frost, are you a Doncaster Rovers fan or an internet troll?

What kind of question is that? I'm merely asking how DRFC would turn around a £2million loss making stadium into something that is profitable.

[benaldo]

Which, as always, is a negative post by you on this forum. I can't even begin to remember the last time you posted something positive about the club. In fact, go on, show me a link to the last time you praised the club/board of your own free will?!

[MrFrost]

Which, as always, is a negative post by you on this forum. I can't even begin to remember the last time you posted something positive about the club. In fact, go on, show me a link to the last time you praised the club/board of your own free will?!

How was it negative? It is a constructive question.
When was the last time you didn't talk bullshit?

[benaldo]

Link? No?

Hows that for bullshit?

[MrFrost]

You obviously missed my thread trying to rally support for the Hull game.

[hoolahoop]

This is getting more and more like a school playground pack it in and yes Frosty it was negative .
We've had weeks nay months to discuss the KM and not once have you raised such an objection in fact you were all for it. Now is NOT the time fella please.

[donnyroversfc]

I dont even think John Ryan sounded unsure on the stadium anyway, infact i'd say it was quite the opposite.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Sorry but Frost makes a valid point and one I have wondered recently aswell, given I've a bit of knowledge on the stadium and it's not great.

However there are some synergies in that you can incorporate systems into one, so rather than 2 costs you may have one for some things (such as website hosting as a very small example).  Marketing is another, as is the stadium and Rovers are two, you can incorporate those and create one.

The major opportunity of course is that you have a much bigger voice speaking as a club as opposed to speaking as a stadium, the pulling power is greater with clients etc.  Then there's the other side that Rovers will see increases in some areas that will offset other losses.  Already there is the initial rent plus fees for hiring pitches etc.  You'll also find that a private organisation will get things done for cheaper prices than the council run lot would, certainly the case in the field I work in.

But enough to cover that huge gap?  Well one assumes the sums have been done on that one.

[sedwardsdrfc]

Sorry but Frost makes a valid point and one I have wondered recently aswell, given I've a bit of knowledge on the stadium and it's not great.

However there are some synergies in that you can incorporate systems into one, so rather than 2 costs you may have one for some things (such as website hosting as a very small example).  Marketing is another, as is the stadium and Rovers are two, you can incorporate those and create one.

The major opportunity of course is that you have a much bigger voice speaking as a club as opposed to speaking as a stadium, the pulling power is greater with clients etc.  Then there's the other side that Rovers will see increases in some areas that will offset other losses.  Already there is the initial rent plus fees for hiring pitches etc.  You'll also find that a private organisation will get things done for cheaper prices than the council run lot would, certainly the case in the field I work in.

But enough to cover that huge gap?  Well one assumes the sums have been done on that one.

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sadly it isant too hard to belive the council run it so poorley i wouldent be suprised if it at least nearly breaks even if it was owned by DRFC

[bobjimwilly]

Ryan pretty much admitted any deal was uncertain.

It will happen, simple as that.

And if it does, how will Rovers turn a £2 million loss making venue into something making profit? With the club already losing 5 million a year, would it really be a good business decision to take on the KMS now? Especially with the loss of our wealthiest backers?

Some good questions there. A couple of things I can think of that Rovers could do to help run the stadium at a profit, which they can't do now, is make money from refreshments and sell commercial space in the concourse. I'd imagine many people are turned away from buying food/drinks, for example, is the price. If Rovers were in charge they could drop the prices straight away, change their suppliers, run promotions in conjunction with tickets etc, and also make the concourses more \"Rovers Friendly\" i.e. with decoration etc. We might even be able to open a VSC/Supporters Club bar!

[hoolahoop]

Open up all the restaurants on a Sunday as well as the bars to cater for Sunday dinners as well as 'car booters' . Supply the food and drinks that the fans actually want at a decent price and at the right quality.
Encourage further corporate activities, use the facilities more for schools and smaller organisations. Compete generally with the RU club and the Racecourse and liase with the Dome and other local entertainment centres for joint promotions........basically fill the bloody place 7 days a week , 52 weeks a year.

[madmick50]

It's all my fault. I take full responsibility.

[Donnylass]

Also if we owned the stadium we would have the money that we pay in rent.

I guess it may initially have to go on the loan, if that is what is used to buy it, but there would come a time when the loan is paid and the money's ours again.

I don't think the council know how to run anything at a break even/profit.  They don't have to as for decades they've had tax payers money on tap.

As stated previously the Racecourse has more than just sport going on there all the time.

[Standanista]

The question of the financial sustainability for the KMS is an argument confined mainly to the interested parties. Even in the current economic situation. It’s not one that’s being played out in public.

Shutting the place down and throwing the town’s football club out on the street on the other hand, would be electoral suicide.

I couldn't agree with you more vaya, however the stadium fiasco should have been resolved some time ago. Why/who is dragging their heels on this thorny issue and for what purpose ?
It has left our Board with a lack of meaningful extra income and the SMC/EMC with an unsustainable debt, imo this could be partly the reason that some no longer want to stick around. To me it's a lose-lose now the Council have watched 2 of the fellas that might have been able to resolve this issue virtually ride into the sunset.

My thoughts exactly.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

You see. We're all thinking about opportunities. The stadium is a community asset and that's always as it was intended to be.

I'm sure much more thought will be put in to community/commercial enterprise to use the facility to it's potential and I think we can see that a mark of success would be the numbers of people using it on a more regular basis, all year round.

Now, that means we can't be so selfish about who uses the stadium and for what (such as concerts), as long as it works for the community as a whole and generates revenue streams that have not been available before.

It won't be easy and it won't happen overnight but, there is the will to make it work.

[keepmoatman]

It's all my fault. I take full responsibility.

thats the most sensible post you have ever made . well done