Four directors resign.

[Spike]

I don't know if it was fans who were the cause of the 4 directors leaving but I know they have been the cause of one potential investor not wanting to get involved with putting finances into Rovers.  It is a pity really, the person I am talking about makes Mr Bramall look a relatively poor person.

Funny isn't it? One minute our fans are apathetic, the next they're such a bunch of vituperative spitfires that no-one would want to be a director.

If this was Facebook I would 'like' that comment. But it isn't so I can't.

(But I do like that comment)

I will not reveal who it is because I respect his privacy but Gartom knows who I am talking about as I have tried to get him to talk to him.  He doesn't like the way fans expect the directors to put their money in and find every opportunity to moan about anything and everything the directors try to do to help the club.

I can understand what he means as when I first used this site I came to suggest a venue for refreshments before an away game.  Immediately I was jumped upon by members asking what was I gaining from it.  I was accused of owning the premises, getting commission from the owners and I can't remember what else.  Why does it matter who gets what if they are trying to help you.  I wasn't getting anything from it.  
When John Ryan or anybody else appointed to the club by JR are doing their best for the club why keep questioning there motives? They are doing their best for the fans with their own money.  Put a few million into the club yourself and then maybe question what is happening with your money.

As for the person who hasn't come forward to throw his money at Donny, no I can't see him investing in another club as he has been a Donny fan since 1946.

[Standanista]

Now they've been proven to be effective, can we now start another petition to get an Arab sheik in?

[Wild Rover]

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Well it woked for Oz in Aufwidersein Pet,when he sold transporter bridge to native Amercans.

[grayx]

So in a nutshell, are we saying that the 4 directors have left because of negative comments from supporters?
If so, I'm sorry, but I don't buy that.
I reckon it's more likely that JR & the others have had a difference of opinion over the current/future role of a certain person at the club..

[hoolahoop]

So in a nutshell, are we saying that the 4 directors have left because of negative comments from supporters?
If so, I'm sorry, but I don't buy that.
I reckon it's more likely that JR & the others have had a difference of opinion over the current/future role of a certain person at the club..

I would be inclined to agree with you, perhaps they've all gone for interviews for an Italian cruise ship captain.

[Adam]

So in a nutshell, are we saying that the 4 directors have left because of negative comments from supporters?
If so, I'm sorry, but I don't buy that.
I reckon it's more likely that JR & the others have had a difference of opinion over the current/future role of a certain person at the club..

Bingo.

[Mr1Croft]

So in a nutshell, are we saying that the 4 directors have left because of negative comments from supporters?
If so, I'm sorry, but I don't buy that.
I reckon it's more likely that JR & the others have had a difference of opinion over the current/future role of a certain person at the club..

Bingo.

My biggest concern at the moment is if the reason they have left is not to do with the supporters moaning, then John Ryan's comments last night were unwarranted and has created a \"your either with us or against us\" attitude.

[Wellred]

Some people just don't know when to stop do they.

You really are being soooo helpful in the current climate and uncertain situation aren't you.

If I was JR I might be inclined to f**k you I'm off. But of course that would probably be Willie McKay or Dean Saunders fault wouldn't it.

[hoolahoop]

I don't know if it was fans who were the cause of the 4 directors leaving but I know they have been the cause of one potential investor not wanting to get involved with putting finances into Rovers.  It is a pity really, the person I am talking about makes Mr Bramall look a relatively poor person.

Funny isn't it? One minute our fans are apathetic, the next they're such a bunch of vituperative spitfires that no-one would want to be a director.

If this was Facebook I would 'like' that comment. But it isn't so I can't.

(But I do like that comment)

I will not reveal who it is because I respect his privacy but Gartom knows who I am talking about as I have tried to get him to talk to him.  He doesn't like the way fans expect the directors to put their money in and find every opportunity to moan about anything and everything the directors try to do to help the club.

I can understand what he means as when I first used this site I came to suggest a venue for refreshments before an away game.  Immediately I was jumped upon by members asking what was I gaining from it.  I was accused of owning the premises, getting commission from the owners and I can't remember what else.  Why does it matter who gets what if they are trying to help you.  I wasn't getting anything from it.  
When John Ryan or anybody else appointed to the club by JR are doing their best for the club why keep questioning there motives? They are doing their best for the fans with their own money.  Put a few million into the club yourself and then maybe question what is happening with your money.

As for the person who hasn't come forward to throw his money at Donny, no I can't see him investing in another club as he has been a Donny fan since 1946.

Fans of all clubs moan about their Directors and tbf I think we are probably the most 'accepting' bunch around. We sing the praises of JR and the other shareholders constantly and always have done except on a few occasions. We are loyal to our managers and are not known for causing riots, protests etc
If this person was really ever interested in investing in the club he has loved for so many years .........there would be little or nothing to dissuade him from doing so.
I believe on that basis that it must be purely talk without any intention whatsoever. Ask McCabe, Bates, Sugar and a long list of other owners/Chairmen what real haranguing is about.

[Wellred]

I don't know if it was fans who were the cause of the 4 directors leaving but I know they have been the cause of one potential investor not wanting to get involved with putting finances into Rovers.  It is a pity really, the person I am talking about makes Mr Bramall look a relatively poor person.

Funny isn't it? One minute our fans are apathetic, the next they're such a bunch of vituperative spitfires that no-one would want to be a director.

If this was Facebook I would 'like' that comment. But it isn't so I can't.

(But I do like that comment)

I will not reveal who it is because I respect his privacy but Gartom knows who I am talking about as I have tried to get him to talk to him.  He doesn't like the way fans expect the directors to put their money in and find every opportunity to moan about anything and everything the directors try to do to help the club.

I can understand what he means as when I first used this site I came to suggest a venue for refreshments before an away game.  Immediately I was jumped upon by members asking what was I gaining from it.  I was accused of owning the premises, getting commission from the owners and I can't remember what else.  Why does it matter who gets what if they are trying to help you.  I wasn't getting anything from it.  
When John Ryan or anybody else appointed to the club by JR are doing their best for the club why keep questioning there motives? They are doing their best for the fans with their own money.  Put a few million into the club yourself and then maybe question what is happening with your money.

As for the person who hasn't come forward to throw his money at Donny, no I can't see him investing in another club as he has been a Donny fan since 1946.

Fans of all clubs moan about their Directors and tbf I think we are probably the most 'accepting' bunch around. We sing the praises of JR and the other shareholders constantly and always have done except on a few occasions. We are loyal to our managers and are not known for causing riots, protests etc
If this person was really ever interested in investing in the club he has loved for so many years .........there would be little or nothing to dissuade him from doing so.
I believe on that basis that it must be purely talk without any intention whatsoever. Ask McCabe, Bates, Sugar and a long list of other owners/Chairmen wqhat real haranguing is about.

That obviously doesn't include some of the people who post on here then.

[Mr1Croft]

Some people just don't know when to stop do they.

You really are being soooo helpful in the current climate and uncertain situation aren't you.

If I was JR I might be inclined to f**k you I'm off. But of course that would probably be Willie McKay or Dean Saunders fault wouldn't it.

This is not me being critical, I will forever be in debt to John Ryan to what he has done for our club. But in the past 5/6 months something has happened we are given one story then a couple of weeks later another story emerges, I am just saying I hope this isn't the case this time around...

[donnyroversfc]

Because you was always loyal to our managers weren't you Wellred.

[hoolahoop]

Because you was always loyal to our managers weren't you Wellred.

Great reply, 8.9.10 and out.

[Chris]

I don't know if it was fans who were the cause of the 4 directors leaving but I know they have been the cause of one potential investor not wanting to get involved with putting finances into Rovers.  It is a pity really, the person I am talking about makes Mr Bramall look a relatively poor person.

Funny isn't it? One minute our fans are apathetic, the next they're such a bunch of vituperative spitfires that no-one would want to be a director.

If this was Facebook I would 'like' that comment. But it isn't so I can't.

(But I do like that comment)

I will not reveal who it is because I respect his privacy but Gartom knows who I am talking about as I have tried to get him to talk to him.  He doesn't like the way fans expect the directors to put their money in and find every opportunity to moan about anything and everything the directors try to do to help the club.

I can understand what he means as when I first used this site I came to suggest a venue for refreshments before an away game.  Immediately I was jumped upon by members asking what was I gaining from it.  I was accused of owning the premises, getting commission from the owners and I can't remember what else.  Why does it matter who gets what if they are trying to help you.  I wasn't getting anything from it.  
When John Ryan or anybody else appointed to the club by JR are doing their best for the club why keep questioning there motives? They are doing their best for the fans with their own money.  Put a few million into the club yourself and then maybe question what is happening with your money.

As for the person who hasn't come forward to throw his money at Donny, no I can't see him investing in another club as he has been a Donny fan since 1946.

Fans of all clubs moan about their Directors and tbf I think we are probably the most 'accepting' bunch around. We sing the praises of JR and the other shareholders constantly and always have done except on a few occasions. We are loyal to our managers and are not known for causing riots, protests etc
If this person was really ever interested in investing in the club he has loved for so many years .........there would be little or nothing to dissuade him from doing so.
I believe on that basis that it must be purely talk without any intention whatsoever. Ask McCabe, Bates, Sugar and a long list of other owners/Chairmen wqhat real haranguing is about.

That obviously doesn't include some of the people who post on here then.

c.90% of the respondents to a poll on this website were still backing O'Driscoll after 19 win-less games. I cannot remember seeing anyone personally abuse John Ryan or the other directors on here.

[NickDRFC]

This whole episode is a crying shame.

I have my reservations about the McKay project. However, as someone who knows John personally, I know he would never do anything without the best intentions for the club. He always has. We dropped into the conference and he bought the club. He got Trevor Milton on board, excellent experience of the lower leagues and a great network of contacts to help us pick up some great little players. He got Terry Bramall and Dick Watson on board to help with the investment that was needed to push us on to the Championship. And now he has turned to McKay at a time when we are haemmorhaging money, with 2 directors who (perfectly acceptably) didn't want to keep pouring money into a black whole. Like I say, I have my reservations but John thinks it's our best shot. It might fail and we may go down. It appears that some might enjoy that, who the lower leagues were more fun, and that's their prerogative.

Personally I love playing in the Championship. I loved going to Derby and shutting up 33,000 who thought they still belonged in the Premiership. But then I loved going to Rushden and Diamonds and seeing it as our cup final. Even when we lost. I loved it because I love the club. I will whichever league we are in, whoever is in charge, whoever is on the board. I will have my gripes at times but at the end of the day I will support the team because I love this club. And so does John. Cut him open and he will bleed red and white. I truly hoper that his relationship with the club doesn't sour, because he doesn't deserve that. He deserves an enduring legacy as a hero.

Can we please just put aside the in-fighting. Everyone who has reservations against the McKay strategy isn't a heretic. Everyone behind it isn't a happy clapper. There are a few people who have drawn a line in the sand and will not listen to any arguments the other way. Although it may be an exaggeration to say it is poisoning the club, it's certainly posioning this board.

[Bristol Red Rover]

\"We have reached an era that you just have to ask questions to become an enemy of the state. Remember, it's okay to ask questions.\" - Anonymous.

Mate, thats ridiculous, as is the repetition on here.

If people ask questions there's no problem.

What happens too frequently amongst reasonable questions and debate is rumour and speculation, mainly way off the mark. Also statements of fear, worry and even paranoia. Add to this people who are unable to ask a question, rather they nag on and on. Its like kids in the back seat of a car, \"Are we there yet?\" every feckin 5 minutes. Though unlike those kids who are excited about where we may me going, its more like \"I'm not sure dad put petrol in, think it was diesel. My mates dads brothers postman saw dad put deisel in once. We're going to break down, and we'll be eaten by gila monsters.\" or \"This car is old, the seats will fall through the floor, don't go so fast dad, why did you get this car, you're supposed to be looking after us not killing us\" or blah blah blah... get a grip folks and enjoy the ride.

[hoolahoop]

Neither can I Chris, there are far too many precious folk about. The odd lunatic does not an asylum make (anon).....me really

[DonnyNoel]

This whole episode is a crying shame.

I have my reservations about the McKay project. However, as someone who knows John personally, I know he would never do anything without the best intentions for the club. He always has. We dropped into the conference and he bought the club. He got Trevor Milton on board, excellent experience of the lower leagues and a great network of contacts to help us pick up some great little players. He got Terry Bramall and Dick Watson on board to help with the investment that was needed to push us on to the Championship. And now he has turned to McKay at a time when we are haemmorhaging money, with 2 directors who (perfectly acceptably) didn't want to keep pouring money into a black whole. Like I say, I have my reservations but John thinks it's our best shot. It might fail and we may go down. It appears that some might enjoy that, who the lower leagues were more fun, and that's their prerogative.

Personally I love playing in the Championship. I loved going to Derby and shutting up 33,000 who thought they still belonged in the Premiership. But then I loved going to Rushden and Diamonds and seeing it as our cup final. Even when we lost. I loved it because I love the club. I will whichever league we are in, whoever is in charge, whoever is on the board. I will have my gripes at times but at the end of the day I will support the team because I love this club. And so does John. Cut him open and he will bleed red and white. I truly hoper that his relationship with the club doesn't sour, because he doesn't deserve that. He deserves an enduring legacy as a hero.

Can we please just put aside the in-fighting. Everyone who has reservations against the McKay strategy isn't a heretic. Everyone behind it isn't a happy clapper. There are a few people who have drawn a line in the sand and will not listen to any arguments the other way. Although it may be an exaggeration to say it is poisoning the club, it's certainly posioning this board.

Bang on. f**king bang on. I respect the opinions of both sides and the right for them to be said (albeit hearing the same one 1,257 times is tedious) but this is serious stuff now. Dozens of chairmen walk round with their heads up their arses oblivious of fans feelings and we have one so commited to the club he goes out the way to read this forum and digest the views of each and every one of us. It's all a bit raw at the moment and I would imagine the full facts/implications won't be known for a while so wild speculation doesn't help anyone.

[Donnylass]

So in a nutshell, are we saying that the 4 directors have left because of negative comments from supporters?
If so, I'm sorry, but I don't buy that.
I reckon it's more likely that JR & the others have had a difference of opinion over the current/future role of a certain person at the club..

This is the exact sort of comment that [strike]is[/strike] was p*ssing off the board.
What you reckon and what is fact are two different things. JR has said, live on radio, the reason why the board have left.
What is the point of unfounded speculation that might be the furthest thing from the truth. Did you listen to the programme. If not there is a link on here somewhere (sorry still haven't learnt to do one) Listen again to what the man says.

If you still don't believe him - look for the man on the grassy knoll, wearing silver foil on his head. he knows the truth

[Rosey]

\"We have reached an era that you just have to ask questions to become an enemy of the state. Remember, it's okay to ask questions.\" - Anonymous.

Mate, thats ridiculous, as is the repetition on here.

If people ask questions there's no problem.

What happens too frequently amongst reasonable questions and debate is rumour and speculation, mainly way off the mark. Also statements of fear, worry and even paranoia. Add to this people who are unable to ask a question, rather they nag on and on. Its like kids in the back seat of a car, \"Are we there yet?\" every feckin 5 minutes. Though unlike those kids who are excited about where we may me going, its more like \"I'm not sure dad put petrol in, think it was diesel. My mates dads brothers postman saw dad put deisel in once. We're going to break down, and we'll be eaten by gila monsters.\" or \"This car is old, the seats will fall through the floor, don't go so fast dad, why did you get this car, you're supposed to be looking after us not killing us\" or blah blah blah... get a grip folks and enjoy the ride.

You have summed this forum up perfectly

[Wellred]

Because you was always loyal to our managers weren't you Wellred.

Great reply, 8.9.10 and out.

I will be the first to admit I wasn't ALWAYS loyal to the previous Manager but then unlike both of you two I wasn't 100% against him from the word go.

[Chris]

Because you was always loyal to our managers weren't you Wellred.

Great reply, 8.9.10 and out.

I will be the first to admit I wasn't ALWAYS loyal to the previous Manager but then unlike both of you two I wasn't 100% against him from the word go.

Again, I don't think people are completely against Dean Saunders. I haven't seen or heard anyone calling for him to be sacked immediately.

The situation with O'Driscoll was handled very poorly by the club and people still have questions that have yet to be answered. That doesn't mean these people are 100% anti-Saunders. Far from it too, I imagine.

[hoolahoop]

Because you was always loyal to our managers weren't you Wellred.

Great reply, 8.9.10 and out.

I will be the first to admit I wasn't ALWAYS loyal to the previous Manager but then unlike both of you two I wasn't 100% against him from the word go.

Come on lighten up Wellred, I was pro SO'D from the beginning. Incidentally I wasn't anti Dean Saunders either from the start but his tactical skills worry me to death at times but I'll give it a go.
Whatever made you think I didn't admire Sean.......find me the post

[Wellred]

Because you was always loyal to our managers weren't you Wellred.

Great reply, 8.9.10 and out.

I will be the first to admit I wasn't ALWAYS loyal to the previous Manager but then unlike both of you two I wasn't 100% against him from the word go.

Again, I don't think people are completely against Dean Saunders. I haven't seen or heard anyone calling for him to be sacked immediately.

The situation with O'Driscoll was handled very poorly by the club and people still have questions that have yet to be answered. That doesn't mean these people are 100% anti-Saunders. Far from it too, I imagine.

If you don't think that there isn't anyone being completely against Saunders and McKay then I suggest you must have hiding in a forest.
As for the situation with O'Driscoll how many times do you have to be told?
I think it is more a case some people don't believe what JR is saying.
I heard what John said at a meeting at the stadium and I for one accept his explanation of the events that happened that particular week.

[Chris]

Because you was always loyal to our managers weren't you Wellred.

Great reply, 8.9.10 and out.

I will be the first to admit I wasn't ALWAYS loyal to the previous Manager but then unlike both of you two I wasn't 100% against him from the word go.

Again, I don't think people are completely against Dean Saunders. I haven't seen or heard anyone calling for him to be sacked immediately.

The situation with O'Driscoll was handled very poorly by the club and people still have questions that have yet to be answered. That doesn't mean these people are 100% anti-Saunders. Far from it too, I imagine.

If you don't think that there isn't anyone being completely against Saunders and McKay then I suggest you must have hiding in a forest.
As for the situation with O'Driscoll how many times do you have to be told?
I think it is more a case some people don't believe what JR is saying.
I heard what John said at a meeting at the stadium and I for one accept his explanation of the events that happened that particular week.

I said Saunders, not McKay and Saunders.

[Buckquat]

\"We have reached an era that you just have to ask questions to become an enemy of the state. Remember, it's okay to ask questions.\" - Anonymous.

Mate, thats ridiculous, as is the repetition on here.
 
If people ask questions there's no problem.

What happens too frequently amongst reasonable questions and debate is rumour and speculation, mainly way off the mark. Also statements of fear, worry and even paranoia. Add to this people who are unable to ask a question, rather they nag on and on. Its like kids in the back seat of a car, \"Are we there yet?\" every feckin 5 minutes. Though unlike those kids who are excited about where we may me going, its more like \"I'm not sure dad put petrol in, think it was diesel. My mates dads brothers postman saw dad put deisel in once. We're going to break down, and we'll be eaten by gila monsters.\" or \"This car is old, the seats will fall through the floor, don't go so fast dad, why did you get this car, you're supposed to be looking after us not killing us\" or blah blah blah... get a grip folks and enjoy the ride.

You have summed this forum up perfectly

I have to agree Bristol. Bang on I commend your comments
Before joining this forum I was on 606 then ja606, and the difference in opinion/attitude is astounding.
606 had some good knowledgable fans who generally discussed matters and agreed or agreed to disagree. If you wanted to vent some anger you'd do it at the numerous wums from other teams who would join the discussions and like a pack, or a family divert the bitterness outward.
On this site, no disrespect to vsc, I see  posts that start by raising valid and intelligent questions  degenerate into the internal bickering where the personality of the poster is more overpowering than the point being raised.

JR I hope you realise that of every cock that pisses you off with unfounded comment, vitriol, and total bolloxs there's probably 10 more disagreeing who don't post,  I'm one , and in hindsight realise that was/ is probably  the best way I could have supported you and the rovers.
Time for the silent majority  not just at the  keepmoat  to get vocal
To quote a classic saying
\" guys look at us, squabberling, bwwickering! We never used to be like this!!!\"
Ric 'The Young Ones'

Vsc. You want to improve this site? Find someone with the software to interact with the fans of the teams were playing a couple of days prior to kickoff  it might help  direct our Ferrell childrens anger away from attacking their father.

[dickos1]

The thing that is pathetic is the constant full investigation into what Ryan says. And why he has said it. The blokes a legend and numptys on here are writing paragraph upon paragraph about why he isn't telling us the truth.
I honestly think its a disgrace, disrespectful and damn right rude. I believe what he says and Ill trust him to the end. And the people who carry on and on with the deceitful murmurings will in the end cause a massive tragedy for this club..

[hoolahoop]

What are you trying to say to me Wellred ? Of course there will be many against the McKay/Saunders set up and many that were dissatisfied with the way the SO'D dismissal went and I don't need to be told anything. Why do you appear to be pointing the finger in my direction i.e.........'' I suggest you must have hiding in a forest.
As for the situation with O'Driscoll how many times do you have to be told?''

[Wellred]

Because you was always loyal to our managers weren't you Wellred.

Great reply, 8.9.10 and out.

I will be the first to admit I wasn't ALWAYS loyal to the previous Manager but then unlike both of you two I wasn't 100% against him from the word go.

Come on lighten up Wellred, I was pro SO'D from the beginning. Incidentally I wasn't anti Dean Saunders either from the start but his tactical skills worry me to death at times but I'll give it a go.
Whatever made you think I didn't admire Sean.......find me the post

Sorry that was a typo. I didn't intend to infer you was against SOD. I know that is not the case.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

What happens too frequently amongst reasonable questions and debate is rumour and speculation, mainly way off the mark. Also statements of fear, worry and even paranoia. Add to this people who are unable to ask a question, rather they nag on and on. Its like kids in the back seat of a car, \"Are we there yet?\" every feckin 5 minutes. Though unlike those kids who are excited about where we may me going, its more like \"I'm not sure dad put petrol in, think it was diesel. My mates dads brothers postman saw dad put deisel in once. We're going to break down, and we'll be eaten by gila monsters.\" or \"This car is old, the seats will fall through the floor, don't go so fast dad, why did you get this car, you're supposed to be looking after us not killing us\" or blah blah blah... get a grip folks and enjoy the ride.

Bristol. You summed up just what was going through my head earlier, particularly the words fear, worry and paranoia. Whether this is borne out of a legacy from the Richardson era or perhaps an insecurity syndrome, I'm not sure.

No matter what, some will always read between the lines and believe there are alteria motives. I can recommend a good counsellor if the anxiety and stress of it all is getting too much for some.