Is Saunders the right man for League 1?

[pubteam]

If anyone follows members of our youth team on Twitter, you may have seen something today which would suggest that the answer to the OP's question is undoubtedly 'No'!

what was said like?

Numerous people employed by Doncaster Rovers have serious reservations regarding numerous aspects of Dean Saunder's management. I'm not going to say more as the VSC will be in here threatening legal action but you only have to spend a few moments on various social networking sites to see what I'm talking about.

I was actually being economical with the truth. I do know about this, and I'm pretty sure you didn't see who was involved and what was said.

And unless you've done any further digging on the matter, I'm pretty sure it involved one first team player and one member of the youth team, not 'numerous people employed by DRFC.'

Look on more pages than the one belonging to the youth team player.

I have. I've seen something from a supporter that basically sums up what happened but doesn't name the player.

And putting two and two together and assuming you are who I think you are on Twitter, you "missed it," so I'm not entirely sure how you know any more than I do, unless your way of phrasing it just makes it seem like you know more.

[Chris]

If anyone follows members of our youth team on Twitter, you may have seen something today which would suggest that the answer to the OP's question is undoubtedly 'No'!

what was said like?

Numerous people employed by Doncaster Rovers have serious reservations regarding numerous aspects of Dean Saunder's management. I'm not going to say more as the VSC will be in here threatening legal action but you only have to spend a few moments on various social networking sites to see what I'm talking about.

I was actually being economical with the truth. I do know about this, and I'm pretty sure you didn't see who was involved and what was said.

And unless you've done any further digging on the matter, I'm pretty sure it involved one first team player and one member of the youth team, not 'numerous people employed by DRFC.'

Look on more pages than the one belonging to the youth team player.

I have. I've seen something from a supporter that basically sums up what happened but doesn't name the player.

And putting two and two together and assuming you are who I think you are on Twitter, you "missed it," so I'm not entirely sure how you know any more than I do, unless your way of phrasing it just makes it seem like you know more.

Admittedly I wasn't online at the time but luckily I have been shown the message by two others who were online at the time. My point about looking at other pages wasn't referring to this exact message either.

Also, apologies if it looks like I'm trying to be one of those who claim to be in the know. I know nothing more than what's been put out there by people on here and on other websites.

[pubteam]

If anyone follows members of our youth team on Twitter, you may have seen something today which would suggest that the answer to the OP's question is undoubtedly 'No'!

what was said like?

Numerous people employed by Doncaster Rovers have serious reservations regarding numerous aspects of Dean Saunder's management. I'm not going to say more as the VSC will be in here threatening legal action but you only have to spend a few moments on various social networking sites to see what I'm talking about.

I was actually being economical with the truth. I do know about this, and I'm pretty sure you didn't see who was involved and what was said.

And unless you've done any further digging on the matter, I'm pretty sure it involved one first team player and one member of the youth team, not 'numerous people employed by DRFC.'

Look on more pages than the one belonging to the youth team player.

I have. I've seen something from a supporter that basically sums up what happened but doesn't name the player.

And putting two and two together and assuming you are who I think you are on Twitter, you "missed it," so I'm not entirely sure how you know any more than I do, unless your way of phrasing it just makes it seem like you know more.

Admittedly I wasn't online at the time but luckily I have been shown the message by two others who were online at the time. My point about looking at other pages wasn't referring to this exact message either.

Also, apologies if it looks like I'm trying to be one of those who claim to be in the know. I know nothing more than what's been put out there by people on here and on other websites.

I've seen what (I think) you're on about.

Very concerning indeed.

[drfcsteve]

If anyone follows members of our youth team on Twitter, you may have seen something today which would suggest that the answer to the OP's question is undoubtedly 'No'!

what was said like?

Numerous people employed by Doncaster Rovers have serious reservations regarding numerous aspects of Dean Saunder's management. I'm not going to say more as the VSC will be in here threatening legal action but you only have to spend a few moments on various social networking sites to see what I'm talking about.

I was actually being economical with the truth. I do know about this, and I'm pretty sure you didn't see who was involved and what was said.

And unless you've done any further digging on the matter, I'm pretty sure it involved one first team player and one member of the youth team, not 'numerous people employed by DRFC.'

Look on more pages than the one belonging to the youth team player.

I have. I've seen something from a supporter that basically sums up what happened but doesn't name the player.

And putting two and two together and assuming you are who I think you are on Twitter, you "missed it," so I'm not entirely sure how you know any more than I do, unless your way of phrasing it just makes it seem like you know more.

Admittedly I wasn't online at the time but luckily I have been shown the message by two others who were online at the time. My point about looking at other pages wasn't referring to this exact message either.

Also, apologies if it looks like I'm trying to be one of those who claim to be in the know. I know nothing more than what's been put out there by people on here and on other websites.

I've seen what (I think) you're on about.

Very concerning indeed.

Anyone care to elaborate for those that have missed whatever's happened on Twitter?

[Wellred]

For me O'Driscoll made two awful decisions.

1. The 3+ year deal for Martis
2. Making Gary Woods the number one.

Most of his other decisions I can live with, but these two stand out as particularly expensive on and off the pitch.

Add to that giving James Chambers an extension to his contract whilst still injured.

And who can forget a certain Mr Brooker. What a great signing he was.

[Dare2Dream]

For me O'Driscoll made two awful decisions.

1. The 3+ year deal for Martis
2. Making Gary Woods the number one.

Most of his other decisions I can live with, but these two stand out as particularly expensive on and off the pitch.

Add to that giving James Chambers an extension to his contract whilst still injured.

And who can forget a certain Mr Brooker. What a great signing he was.

What about Tomi Ameobi & Darren Byfield?

And if you remember, the Gary Woods' thing was correct at the time. Sullivan was injured, and Woods' came in and performed quite well until the end. It was just the start of this season that he started making errors, but then dropping him would have dinted the player's confidence even worse than the errors itself.

I think League One football next season will be perfect for his development, and personally would start him as first choice next season, and maybe if he's not ready for that level, bring in another loan signing. Both O'Driscoll and Saunders have rated Woods higher than Sullivan this season, and they of course see both keepers' on a daily basis- which I think us fans forget sometimes.

[hoolahoop]

yeah SOD had a slow start but he didnt have the likes of Diouf, chimbonda, Piquionne, baye, illunga etc plus all the pile of shit other so called World Class McKay players hwo by all rights should be pissing the division if what is said is to be believed about their quality.
Saunders is not the man to take us back up when the inevitable happens, i personally think he will take us further down.

John Ryan, you love this club, if it wasnt for the money men who have now cashed in and pissed off  SOD would still be manager and we would have a chance at bouncing straight back, he was proven to do well in League 1 just look at the record.

I have a feeling you are the one pissing up the wrong tree.........''cashed in'' are you having a laugh fella ?

[hoolahoop]

yeah SOD had a slow start but he didnt have the likes of Diouf, chimbonda, Piquionne, baye, illunga etc plus all the pile of shit other so called World Class McKay players hwo by all rights should be pissing the division if what is said is to be believed about their quality.
Saunders is not the man to take us back up when the inevitable happens, i personally think he will take us further down.

John Ryan, you love this club, if it wasnt for the money men who have now cashed in and pissed off  SOD would still be manager and we would have a chance at bouncing straight back, he was proven to do well in League 1 just look at the record.

In one breath you say SOD would still be here if the money men hadn't left. WRONG. They were still involved when he left.
Then you go on to say he would be able to get us straight back if he was still here. That assumes that he would have got us relegated!!
I think you need to make your mind up mate.

SOD's "let's dig our way out of this hole" was to get the following on loan;

Reece Brown
Milan Lalkovic
Pie Man Parkin

Debate over. The man had lost the post.
He had to go.

Otherwise we'd have had another 30 odd games of 15 injured players, more dross on loan and an even more arrogant attitude.
Nice to see Hereford heading out of the FL too. Well done ROK.

Having met the man on many occasions I never found him to be arrogant..........honest, direct and realistic yes but NEVER arrogant. Why are we continually blaming our demise on SO'D and RO'K thus deflecting it from DS and McKay ?
Yes SO'D got it wrong, very wrong at times but he is twice the manager and coach this fella is and that probably is exemplified by the recent performances of Forest since he arrived there.....or is that a mere coincidence too ?
Sean O'Driscvoll was an excellent manager for our club and I just can't understand just why folk want to continually destroy his achievements thereby destoying our achievements too.........quite frankly you DON'T know exactly what restraints the man was working under do you.
Why the snide remark about Richard O'Kelly btw ?

[The L J Monk]

For me O'Driscoll made two awful decisions.

1. The 3+ year deal for Martis
2. Making Gary Woods the number one.

Most of his other decisions I can live with, but these two stand out as particularly expensive on and off the pitch.

Add to that giving James Chambers an extension to his contract whilst still injured.

And who can forget a certain Mr Brooker. What a great signing he was.

Not too fussed about the signing of Brooker. It was a gamble that failed, but he was on a minimal contract and so it was probably worth a shot.

Chambers, 1 year deal, again worth a go when you consider he'd proved himself at Championship level.

Woods though....in my opinion cost SOD his job. Rather than splash out on Spurr or push a new contract Coppinger's way, money should have gone on Joe Murphy or someone proven at this level. You can make do with a shoddy left-back or without a sporadically creative winger, but if your keeper is awful then there's not much you can do.

[wilts rover]

I would sort of agree with you there LJ, but it wasn't so much Woods as the decesion to offer Sullivan a contract extension. There was no way we were ever going to have 3 keepers - and why keep Sullivan unless he would be No1?

I my opinion his worst mistakes were the ways in which he treated Pauls Green and Heffernan. Sean O'Driscoll is by for the best manager I have seen in my 40 years of watching Rovers, but he wasn't infallible.

[CusworthRovers]

The trouble is we are all speculating. How do we know if Sean didn't want or try and get a new goalie in, but was told 'no'.....or maybe as you say, he'd decided Woods was the man and went down that route. Obviously he needed a back up and that would be Sulli. Giving Sulli a 1yr contract was a correct decision for me, once we had decided that no new goalies were coming in and Woods was our future. Sulli has experience and the qualifications as good as any in the UK, and even better, he's on our payroll to help nurture Woods and all the other younger goalies (something he's actually doing anyway).

At the time, we saw a huge wave of support on here and the fans in general in blooding Woods based on the cameo's we had all seen. How we cheered Sean for that. Unfortunately, it wasn't covered in rose petals in those early games this season, but I think there could still be a future for this kid (and all this experience at the end of the day can only be good for the lad).

[SiBo]

I think the fact Sullivan signed another contract extension AFTER SOD left says everything about who wants to keep him at the club.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/15450527

I would imagine the thinking last summer was 1 x Sully + 1 x Gary Woods = less than 1 whole Joe Murphy (with no back up) if indeed we ever did enquire about Murphy at all.

[Mark DRFC]

yeah SOD had a slow start but he didnt have the likes of Diouf, chimbonda, Piquionne, baye, illunga etc plus all the pile of shit other so called World Class McKay players hwo by all rights should be pissing the division if what is said is to be believed about their quality.
Saunders is not the man to take us back up when the inevitable happens, i personally think he will take us further down.

John Ryan, you love this club, if it wasnt for the money men who have now cashed in and pissed off  SOD would still be manager and we would have a chance at bouncing straight back, he was proven to do well in League 1 just look at the record.

In one breath you say SOD would still be here if the money men hadn't left. WRONG. They were still involved when he left.
Then you go on to say he would be able to get us straight back if he was still here. That assumes that he would have got us relegated!!
I think you need to make your mind up mate.

I think you misunderstood, i meant that it was the money men who decided SOD's time was up, they have then since cashed in and gone, if SOD had been given the chance and John Ryan had stuck to his opinion and not bowed to board pressure then SOD would still be manager!