copps cotts husband

[watto-drfc]

i don't think it works playing all 3, cotts has had some of his better games playing on the left and cutting in to shoot. copps is best out on the right wing for me. but with husband out on the left and playing so well it limits our options.

[RedJ]

We've had no option really with so few centre midfielders fit. Syers is back soon I think and Lundstram will be back after England duty so we've got more options then, along with Furman.

Who could forget Wilson and Harper too

[benaldo]

I agree with the OP. A perfect midfield (history shows us) consists of a wide man left, a wide man right, an attacking minded midfielder, and a defensive, more holding type midfielder - a la Viera.

Coppinger will be a woman before he's a central midfielder of any description. He's a wide man or part of a front two pairing. He hasn't the discipline to get back and be diligent in the midfield - they aren't his strengths. Cotterill is a nailed on first choice right winger in our squad. Husband - left back he isn't - is making the left wing spot his, though I still think he needs to work on his tackling and defensive game (we can forgive Cotterill's defensive slackness sometimes because of the sheer amount of magic and opportunities he provides up front). The central midfield pairing, for my money, should be Furman and Syers...or Lundstrum and Syers.....or Furman and A.N.Other - who has yet to sign.

Coppinger is best at the moment up front with Hume (in my opinion). Brown and Paynter together is like having cream and custard on your toffee pudding - sounds like a good idea, but ultimately leaves you feeling sick because they don't compliment each other.

[River Don]

I agree with the OP. A perfect midfield (history shows us) consists of a wide man left, a wide man right, an attacking minded midfielder, and a defensive, more holding type midfielder - a la Viera.

Coppinger will be a woman before he's a central midfielder of any description. He's a wide man or part of a front two pairing. He hasn't the discipline to get back and be diligent in the midfield - they aren't his strengths. Cotterill is a nailed on first choice right winger in our squad. Husband - left back he isn't - is making the left wing spot his, though I still think he needs to work on his tackling and defensive game (we can forgive Cotterill's defensive slackness sometimes because of the sheer amount of magic and opportunities he provides up front). The central midfield pairing, for my money, should be Furman and Syers...or Lundstrum and Syers.....or Furman and A.N.Other - who has yet to sign.

Coppinger is best at the moment up front with Hume (in my opinion). Brown and Paynter together is like having cream and custard on your toffee pudding - sounds like a good idea, but ultimately leaves you feeling sick because they don't compliment each other.

And yet when Copps went off, midfield fell to pieces.

[benaldo]

I agree with the OP. A perfect midfield (history shows us) consists of a wide man left, a wide man right, an attacking minded midfielder, and a defensive, more holding type midfielder - a la Viera.

Coppinger will be a woman before he's a central midfielder of any description. He's a wide man or part of a front two pairing. He hasn't the discipline to get back and be diligent in the midfield - they aren't his strengths. Cotterill is a nailed on first choice right winger in our squad. Husband - left back he isn't - is making the left wing spot his, though I still think he needs to work on his tackling and defensive game (we can forgive Cotterill's defensive slackness sometimes because of the sheer amount of magic and opportunities he provides up front). The central midfield pairing, for my money, should be Furman and Syers...or Lundstrum and Syers.....or Furman and A.N.Other - who has yet to sign.

Coppinger is best at the moment up front with Hume (in my opinion). Brown and Paynter together is like having cream and custard on your toffee pudding - sounds like a good idea, but ultimately leaves you feeling sick because they don't compliment each other.

And yet when Copps went off, midfield fell to pieces.

I don't think it was because Coppinger went off, I think it was a mix of a few things - 1) Portsmouth wanted to win and brought that striker on who caused Husband and Spurr all sorts of problems. 2) Lundstrum should have been subbed because he turned his ankle. 3) Brown and Paynter (especially Paynter) were disinterested with the game and looked slow and unfit. 4) Furman is a new player who will take a game or two to understand what his team-mates are like in a match. 5) The pitch is awful.

[ravenrover]

Lets not forget that goal came from Tommy trying to turn the Pompey lad in the tackle instead of just playing the ball into row z.
Good as Husband has been, apart from of a couple of barnstorming runs in the 2nd half that came to nothing he disappeared. For me Copps or Cotts should be wide right/left with any combination of Lundstam, Syers(when fit) or Furman in the middle, up front it has to be Brown and Hume

[bedale rover]

In my opinion we need to play a 4-3-3
More flexible and provides strength in the middle
So for satdi
Woods
Quinn
Jones
McCombe
Spurr
Copps
Griffin
Husband
Cottrill
Brown
Hume

[andysly]

We lost the midfield after Copps went off. Granted he's not your archetypal centre midfield man but he was doing well. Long term Furman is probably a better bet in the middle, but changing both central midfielders was suicide.

[Sammy Chung was King]

We are doing an ''England'',trying to fit all our talented players into the midfield,when it doesn't work,we are going away from the team ethic that has got us here,my team would be-


                                                     G.Woods



                                              Jones             McCombe


                                  Quinn                                          Spurr


                                                      Furman


                               Cotterill                                     Husband


                                                   Lundstram


                                                     Hume

                                                  Brown

Coppinger for me would be the one to lose his place,and he could be a useful player to bring on,as would Kyle Bennett more for his pace,Billy Paynter done nothing wrong,has done a good job all season,but Brown is the better player,Lundstram if fit would start for me,a quality young player to have in the team while syers is out.
     

[GazLaz]

I wouldn't play Hubby and move cops on to the left. Bar a couple of recent goals Hubby's end product is zero.

[bobjimwilly]

I wouldn't play Hubby and move cops on to the left. Bar a couple of recent goals Hubby's end product is zero.

Bar any players goals, their end product will be zero!

[GazLaz]

End product isn't just goals. It's getting shots away, getting good crosses in or creating chances for others. Please don't put silly childish faces of yellow men  putting their hands over their face at me, I find it very disrespectful and don't need to be patronised by somome who from your last statement knows little about football.

[IDM]

 

Sorry 

Seriously though, I think Copps should still play in place of Brown or Paynter.  Those two don't work up front together, one or the other IMHO, working with Hume or Copps.

I thought Brown didn't look fit on Saturday, not up to his usual standard.  Taking Copps off was a mistake as he can be a game changer, and Hume was brought in too late.

Still, we're top of the league and can still be at 5pm on Saturday

[CusworthRovers]

Copps has been the constant plus for us since his return.

I would never drop a player on his game ( and that's Copps by a mile and to be fair to him, Quinny), and one so talented and arguably the most talented and technically gifted footballer in this league.

[i_ateallthepies]

I wouldn't play Hubby and move cops on to the left. Bar a couple of recent goals Hubby's end product is zero.

Bar any players goals, their end product will be zero!

« Reply #11 on Today at 10:00:20 by GazLaz »Quote End product isn't just goals. It's getting shots away, getting good crosses in or creating chances for others. Please don't put silly childish faces of yellow men  putting their hands over their face at me, I find it very disrespectful and don't need to be patronised by somome who from your last statement knows little about football.

Come on now GazLaz, you deserved it with that comment.

[woodyrovers]

I don't think you can leave any of them out. They are three of our best players. The problem is that one of them has to play out of position. On Saturday Copps creativity was lost in that central midfield role, apart from the pass to Billy to put him in one and one, however I thought he did great job getting his foot in and we did miss him when he came off. Probably agree that we should play him up front if the midfield was OK. Husband is exactly the right place in the team and for me his contribution has been a major plus for us. It has been a great decision by the manager to bring him back and play his in his current role. Cotts is frustrating but when he is good he is very good.

[wilts rover]

Copps has been the constant plus for us since his return.

I would never drop a player on his game ( and that's Copps by a mile and to be fair to him, Quinny), and one so talented and arguably the most talented and technically gifted footballer in this league.

Copps played upfront (with Paynter) at Crawley, we were rubbish. Copps played upfront (with Hume) at MK Dons, we were rubbish. In neither game could we hold the ball upfront at all to take the pressure of our defence and allow the midfield to get out and support them. He may be the most talented and technically gifted footballer in this league, but a centre-forward he aint. And for all his technical giftness, how many goals has he scored and assists provided since his return? It weakens us defensively when he plays and he just isnt doing it in attack.

[CusworthRovers]

In both those games we were all shite and Messi would have been shite in our team. Asking Copps to survive on a hopeless hoof up field is a no no, and is difficult enough for seasoned tough strikers like Humey, Browny and BP.
I still believe Copps is the one to make the team tick (we are clearly seeing the game differently) and best suited behind the strikers or wide and probably needs midfield players around him that can play football. That doesn't mean having both Keegan/Harper round him, or playing right up front.

[GazLaz]

Copps is not a striker. I think he should be put on the left.

[IDM]

Copps is not a left sided player.  Wide right or in the space behind Brown/Paynter but ahead of the holding/creative midfielders....

[bedale rover]

Don't forget that in the 1st season in championship 08/09 especially after Christmas we played 4-4-1-1 with copps behind heffernan and he was excellent
A similar formation might be a way of utilising IMO our most creative player

[Spud]

Copps is not a left sided player.  Wide right or in the space behind Brown/Paynter but ahead of the holding/creative midfielders....

Agreed. Personally i think Cotterill is more effective on the left at times but then again when Copps plays more central (either up front or in the hole) he links up very well with Cotterill on the right, they seem to hit it off better than Quinn & Cotts going forward.

[GazLaz]

Cotterill is a player you want going on the outside and getting balls in where as coppinger is a player you want cutting inside. Would be perfect on the left with a licence to roam a bit.

[wing commander]

It's a no brainer for me...Copps has been tried playing off a front man by all our managers with very limited success...Cotterill has to play solely on his quality of set pieces and his crossing which is as good as i've seen here...
  So its basically between Husband and Copps and i would stay with Husband...as he just looks far more dangerous than Copps...Copps is knowhere near the player weve seen..He has had his flair removed from his game by SOD who wanted him to pass and move instead of taking players on and beating them.I watched a re run of the Southend game the other day and the things he did then are not even attempted now....
  The only way is maybe dropping Mcombe moving Tommy to c/b with Husband going into left back with Copps in front of him..I think that would give us much more balance...

[GazLaz]

Coppinger is not the player we have seen because he has been played out of position!!