Public Sector Strike Today

[IC1967]

Look just apologise and we can move on. You are making yourself look dafter with every post. No one can be forced to work more than 48 hours in a week (unless you work in certain jobs like the armed forces and police). Most workers have to opt out of the WTD to be able to work more than 48 hours. The employer cannot force them. It is totally up to the employee. As a leftie union man you should know this.

You seem quite happy to destroy family life. I've got news for you. Money isn't everything. You would do better to encourage people to work less hours and to spend more time with their family. More people could then be employed and there would be less scroungers on the dole.

I notice you no longer dispute my main claims. Instead you go off at a tangent about overtime! Even then you make it up as you go along. Just admit I've made you look a complete berk. Get that abject apology sorted and we'll say no more about it. In future get your facts straight before you dispute my prognostications. I will always consider your point of view before deciding I was right all along.

[jonnydog]

The typical 'apologise' post. Funny isn't it how 'certain' threads tend to end up the same!!

[IC1967]

That's because I am always right and the other person is always wrong. The other person invariably resorts to abuse and incorrect statements. I merely offer them the chance to apologise so we can wipe the slate clean and move on.

Invariably though they don't have the good grace to do this. If ever I was wrong I would instantly apologise. We are all human and we all make mistakes. I just can't remember the last time I made one.

Unfortunately by not apologising, this then not only leaves them looking like a complete berk but also shows they cannot do the decent thing and move on. I suspect they eventually end up all bitter and twisted. It would be so much better for their soul if they could just bring themselves to issue an abject apology.

I'm waiting.

[bobjimwilly]

jonny - just ignore mick. Tbh I'm surprised he hasn't been banned yet for being a blatant WUM 

[donnyproletarian]

I agree with the poster regardig one day action .It should be a general strike as the public services belong to us all , followed by nationalisation of the commanding hights of the economy under democratic workers control.Wum apart , why is everyone swollowing this crap about austerity when we know the money is here but concentrated in the hands of the super rich .

[IC1967]

I agree with the poster regardig one day action .It should be a general strike as the public services belong to us all , followed by nationalisation of the commanding hights of the economy under democratic workers control.Wum apart , why is everyone swollowing this crap about austerity when we know the money is here but concentrated in the hands of the super rich .

Your policies have been tried before in other countries. The main one being Russia. I rest my case.

You need to look at our National Debt to realise that there isn't any money. Every man woman and child owes over £20k. Every working person owes over £45k. Every household in the country has to find over £2k every year just to pay the interest on our debts. Get a grip man.

[Glyn_Wigley]

That's because I am always right

*cough*deflation*cough*

[IC1967]

That's because I am always right

*cough*deflation*cough*

Deflation is on it's way. Inflation recently fell to 1.5% which is way below what the BoE wants or expected. It will continue its downward trend and deflation has already arrived in parts of the Eurozone.

Eurozone-losing-safety-margin-against-deflation-trap-as-core-gauge-falls-to-record-low.html

[Glyn_Wigley]

That's because I am always right

*cough*deflation*cough*

Deflation is on it's way. Inflation recently fell to 1.5% which is way below what the BoE wants or expected. It will continue its downward trend and deflation has already arrived in parts of the Eurozone.

Eurozone-losing-safety-margin-against-deflation-trap-as-core-gauge-falls-to-record-low.html

It even more recently went up to 1.9%, pretty much on the BoE target.

[IC1967]

A temporary blip and nowhere near what the BoE really wants it to be. They want to inflate away the debt problem but are struggling due to deflationary pressures.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Yeah, it's so far away from their 2% target it's unreal...

[IC1967]

They've put one over on you. They rely on gullible fools. Ask yourself the question why did they keep monetary policy extremely loose when inflation was much higher. I better tell you because you won't be able to work it out.

They wanted high inflation and low interest rates to inflate the debt away and to get people spending because it wasn't worth saving as your money would not attract an interest rate to match or better inflation. Savers like me are paying the price for the rest of the spendthrift population who don't know the meaning of the word savings.

Trust me, inflation is much lower than they would like. They haven't got a clue about demographics like what I have.

[Glyn_Wigley]

You're just showing yourself up as completely ignorant as to how the National Debt is financed if you think that it can be 'inflationed away', but keep digging, it's fun watching you make a prat of yourself.

[IC1967]

Are you for real? Of course the National Debt can be inflated away. You are financially illiterate. I'd back off if I were you before I dish out another beating. I'd have thought you'd have learnt by now that I know far more about everything than you do. You are a glutton for punishment.

[donnyproletarian]

Okay  ive got a grip ( around a pitchfork)ready to man the barricades comrade.But here s my take on russia .Crap record on human rights under a totalitarian system but went from a peasant economy to a superstate in fifty years .Lessons do need to be learned However i dont live in russia so that should be the end of that discussion.I do live in donny and grew up believing that the mark of a civilised society is how it treats its most vulnerable .Health care free at the point of delivery ,descent housing and education for all made possible by socialist on the back of a post war keynsian economy which made a mixed economy viable for at least fifty years ,until now.Witness the closure of local care homes etc which would have been unheard of by previous generations .Working people fought long and hard for our terms and conditions whic capitalism can no longer afford .In my opinion it is a spent force using inflation statitstics to load  the resposibility for its crisis on the vulnerable .You should look again and get a grip yourself .There is no such thing as a free enterprise economy .Succesive governments have had state intervention for years in faviour of the high rollers .Witness rolls royce nationalisation in 1972 when it suited .As for debt everyone knows bankrupsy is a cynical business strategy to rip off workers who are at the bottom of the pile when it comes to paying off creditors.Basic inflation occurs when cash which is just paper is absorbed by lack of commodites being produced thus pushing up prices.Witness the decimation of our manufacturing industry.Talking about debt .i owe sod all to these unaccountable parasites sunning it up in tax havens around the world but they owe me plenty in unpaid surplus value wages over the years.Austerity is the biggest con of the twentieth century perpetrated by those who continue to enjoy lavish life styles at our expence .Hope this helps clarrify a few things

[IC1967]

I would be grateful if you could trawl through your ramble and correct the many grammatical errors. A few paragraphs wouldn't go amiss either. Once you've done this I'll do my best to try understand what you are babbling on about and give you the benefit of my opinion.

[donnyproletarian]

I dont remember asking for your opinion .However , i would be prepared to give you a medical one if i had the time .As for your comment regarding my grammer, i am prepared to acknowlege my articulate  limitations and will immediately top myself as i dunt av dosh for neete scole
                                                                                        Innit

[Glyn_Wigley]

Are you for real? Of course the National Debt can be inflated away. You are financially illiterate. I'd back off if I were you before I dish out another beating. I'd have thought you'd have learnt by now that I know far more about everything than you do. You are a glutton for punishment.

Wibble.

[IC1967]

Wibble.

I think that's the most intelligent comment you've ever posted.