Mentally weak!

[swintonrover]

For God sake Dickos and MrFrostsDad, you're both as bad as each other.

MFD, you seem to revel in defeat, taking the opportunity to complain at anything possible.
Dickos, you're like an Ostrich, burying your head in the sand to any possible issues we may have.

VivaRovers touched on it a couple of fanzines ago, the middle ground of rationality does not exist any more. People are either at one extreme or the other. You two are the ends of the spectrum.

[murham]

At last someone talking sense
Surely we are not fit enough
Tired and becoming brain dead
We are losing too m@ny games in the last minutes
Come on get some proper Yorkshire nosh down em

[dickos1]

For God sake Dickos and MrFrostsDad, you're both as bad as each other.

MFD, you seem to revel in defeat, taking the opportunity to complain at anything possible.
Dickos, you're like an Ostrich, burying your head in the sand to any possible issues we may have.

VivaRovers touched on it a couple of fanzines ago, the middle ground of rationality does not exist any more. People are either at one extreme or the other. You two are the ends of the spectrum.

I disagree,
I never start topics saying how everything is rosy I mearly just respond to people being ridiculously negative all the time.
I've said we need more experience in the middle of the park, I've said we need more pace throughout the side, I've criticised the players for not taking responsibility, I've said Williams is no good,

There's lots that could be improved upon, but people didn't want Ferguson in the first place so whatever happens results wise is irrelevant they will still want him gone which brings about the ridiculous moaning.

[anne honemous]

I look at this team and it reminds me of the team that got relegated, with Brian Deane, Rufus Brevitt,Paul Raven, Mark Rankine etc. All good young players that went on to better things, losing narrowly most weeks.
They just weren't experienced enough for the league that they were playing in. Three or four decent additions and we would have stayed up that year. Let's hope that we learn from history because whichever way you look at it we need to improve, fitness, injuries and experience in or before January.

Do you really think many of this team, especially the younger ones, will go on to better things?

In five years, I think some of them will be lucky if they're playing for one of the unfashionable teams in the Conference Premier.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Jesus wept. I’m having a tough enough time at work at the minute without someone getting me thinking about how bad we were in 87/88.

It’s hard to conceive that the squad that turned in such awful performances every week contained so many young uns who would go on to greater things.

Deane. £6m in transfer fees, an England cap and 200 first team goals.

Tommy Gaynor. MoM in a Cloughie side at Wembley. (23:30 here kids, for the finest cross ever seen at Wembley. And by an ex-Rovers player https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vkNGkt2O-ZY )


Brevett Raven, Holmes and Rankine. I’d guess at well over 1000 Tier 1/2 games between them.

Clive Mendonca who played a couple of times on loan, looked shite then went on to score at the rate of one every 3 games for 15 years in Tiers 1 and 2.

Andy Rhodes played a good few games in Div2 and the SPL after leaving us.

Even Paul Gorman managed a season or two for Charlton in Div 2.

And then we had some other solid ones. Steve Gaughan. Glenn Humphries. Lee Turnbull. Micky Stead.

How bad a manager was McKay to get that lit relegated before the clocks had gone forward?
 

[hoolahoop]

mentally weak?

I swear I thought you meant some of our "supporters" who post on here.

Our team is a work in progress, we are a couple of players away from the finished article.

Until we get these players in best you grow a pair and stop moaning.

Merry Xmas everyone

I could not agree with you more . Development is coming on well , injuries having an impact   ; all things considered the manager is doing a great job - just querying the timing and the type of substitution. Managers always feel the necessity to substitute even when the player coming on is less experienced/ able than the one coming off.

All players are more than capable of seeing out a full game . Some of the timings and subs have been baffling this season and I think that's what is pissing people off .

[mrfrostsdad]

For God sake Dickos and MrFrostsDad, you're both as bad as each other.

MFD, you seem to revel in defeat, taking the opportunity to complain at anything possible.
Dickos, you're like an Ostrich, burying your head in the sand to any possible issues we may have.

VivaRovers touched on it a couple of fanzines ago, the middle ground of rationality does not exist any more. People are either at one extreme or the other. You two are the ends of the spectrum.

Funnily enough Dickos, I was ok with Fergusons appointment. I didn't think we could really have expected anyone better. Unfortunately, he's proved me wrong.
He got us relegated in his first season when a half intelligent poodle could have kept us up, playing formations no-one had a clue about. Ok, it may be the board wouldn't let him spend any money in January because they thought we were safe, I don't know.
Yes, we got promoted back to L1 at the first attempt, but with the exception of Portsmouth I suspect we had more resources than anyone else in L2.
This season has been harder than we expected I think. But some of his decision making has been baffling in my eyes. Just one example was to bring on Kongolo for Whiteman on Saturday when we were 1 up. I'm sorry, but I can't think of anyone, experienced manager or someone with no idea about the game, who could possibly think that was a sensible substitution. And apparently he wants to keep Kongolo for the rest if the season. Why? I don't know anyone who has seen him who thinks that is a good idea, except DF.

We're at a critical stage of the season. Good festive period and we could be pushing half way. Bad festive period and we'll be in the relegation zone. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest if Ferguson went. For me, we've made no progress at all since he came in.

People say 'who would we get in if he went?' Well, Nigel Adkins and Paul Jewell have been out of work for a considerable time, until the last couple of weeks. Would that have come here if we'd got rid of Ferguson? Who knows? Whatever happens, the board won't get rid of him. I doubt they'd sack him even if we got relegated (which I still don't think we will by the way)

I disagree,
I never start topics saying how everything is rosy I mearly just respond to people being ridiculously negative all the time.
I've said we need more experience in the middle of the park, I've said we need more pace throughout the side, I've criticised the players for not taking responsibility, I've said Williams is no good,

There's lots that could be improved upon, but people didn't want Ferguson in the first place so whatever happens results wise is irrelevant they will still want him gone which brings about the ridiculous moaning.

[dickos1]

You do know we were in the relegation zone when Ferguson took over don't you?

[drfchound]

You do know we were in the relegation zone when Ferguson took over don't you?

So i guess where we are is a massive improvement on that, just outside of the bottom four.

[dickos1]

You do know we were in the relegation zone when Ferguson took over don't you?

So i guess where we are is a massive improvement on that, just outside of the bottom four.

😂😂
You are crackers! Next time maybe look at what I was responding to before jumping in all guns blazing.
He said a poodle could have kept us up, I said we were in the relegation zone when he took over.

What on earth that has to do with where we are now god only knows

[Chris Black come back]

I do not think we will go down. Give or take a point or two, we will finish around a point a game and be safe. Our manager certainly hasn’t done disastrously by any measure this season but it is mediocre. Absolutely mediocre. Mediocre football, mediocre results. Kinda, meh really. Most folk I imagine could take or leave him, maybe easier all round if he stays, but not going to die in ditch for him if he was to be moved.   

[drfchound]

You do know we were in the relegation zone when Ferguson took over don't you?

So i guess where we are is a massive improvement on that, just outside of the bottom four.

😂😂
You are crackers! Next time maybe look at what I was responding to before jumping in all guns blazing.
He said a poodle could have kept us up, I said we were in the relegation zone when he took over.

What on earth that has to do with where we are now god only knows

Perhaps if you made it clear which point of the post you were responding to people would not have to second guess.
The post by MFD was very extensive and it could have been that you were indicating, as you very often do, that things are ok and that we should be grateful that we are not in the relegation zone (at present) under DF.

Maybe you should consider looking at how your post might be construed before calling fellow posters crackers.

[dickos1]

I never suggest things are ok, I'm just not as negative as some, if we're 3 points off midtable and 3 points off relegation then there's two ways to look at it isn't there.

[idler]

Most of those below us have a game in hand. Should we lose at Bristol and those below us win it will put more pressure on us. Rochdale and Plymouth seem to be edging closer over the last couple of weeks.

[dickos1]

Like I've just said there's two ways of looking at it, if we win at Bristol and those above us lose then we will be midtable

[idler]

Exactly there are two or more sides to every opinion. Overly optimistic is just the opposite of overly pessimistic. Reality is usually somewhere between the two.
Our position won't ruin my Christmas but I am a little concerned.