29 Dec 2007

[JonWallsend]

And in that 2007/08 promotion season we beat Northampton Town on Boxing Day. Is it an omen. Who knows. Unlikely but not impossible.
Seasons with 7/8 are significant or at least the last 2 are.
1997/98 and 2007/08  Both will live long in the memory, one very sad and one very happy. 2017/18 ???

We were relegated in 1947-48, 1957-58 and 1987-88 

You could have kept those stats to yourself.
I did say 7/8 was significant. So we have turned the corner in 2007/08 so it will be a promotion year this season.

I don’t go too much for omens. A friend of mine had his wedding reception in a marquee, and part of it blew down in a strong gust of wind. He asked me if it was an omen, but I said it was just a poor tent.

I prefer your statistics material😄

[drfchound]

And in that 2007/08 promotion season we beat Northampton Town on Boxing Day. Is it an omen. Who knows. Unlikely but not impossible.
Seasons with 7/8 are significant or at least the last 2 are.
1997/98 and 2007/08  Both will live long in the memory, one very sad and one very happy. 2017/18 ???

We beat Northampton 1-0 In 1983 and were promoted that season. The game was also played on December 26th! Mmmm!

We had that shocking collapse when we were last relegated and not many of us saw that coming so why shouldn’t we have the opposite run this season.
Right now the top six isn’t too far away and a good January could see us right on the edge of it.
February hasn’t been good to us in recent years but nothing stays the same does it.

I hope we do make the playoffs because our record in them is good.

[Campsall rover]

Only the top 4 have conceded more goals than us this season.
So we all know where we need to improve.

Do you mean less mate?

Frostys dad suggested results are the only thing that matters in football.
On the face of it that's correct but if you're consistently playing well and not getting he results you know that at some point this will change.
The first season in the championship being a prime example

Yes I meant less of course.

[BigH]

Have to admit that my take on that period is slightly different to BST's.

We'd just got a little bit form going around mid-late November that had taken us into the top 6. A huge relief for everyone given the weight of expectation around the club. It had been a stuttering start to the season. The general view was that we had the players, we had the manager and we could boss anyone on our day but that we needed to gain a bit of consistency, something that had proved elusive for the first couple of months of the season.

We did seem to click around November-December although we got badly beaten early in the new year by a rampant Swansea.

This year doesn't compare. We've got some good players, but we haven't got a great squad. Generally, we'll struggle against the top 6 but we've got enough to beat the teams below and around us. For me it feels a bit more Dave Penney circa 2005 than SOD 2007. Happy to be proved wrong of course but, in all honesty, I don't see it coming together for us this season.

[Herman Hessian]

Frostys dad suggested results are the only thing that matters in football.
On the face of it that's correct but if you're consistently playing well and not getting he results you know that at some point this will change.
The first season in the championship being a prime example

absolute horseshit - this is rovers we're talking about and therefore as you very well know the results count for absolutely f**k all unless everyone's seen the most scintillating brand of mesmerising, attacking football conceivable, all the players are each other's best mates, are playing for nowt and have no personal ambitions to further or better themselves, there are fantastic pies being handed out in your seat (and free beer) and the signs all over the place saying "park here without paying and you will get fined" only apply to other people who haven't paid, and not you, personally, because you are special and are above such nonsence

mr f (senior's) results nonsense is only applicable in some bizarre parallel universe where success or failure is based purely and simply on how good you are at actually playing the game, which is utterly nonsensical...

[BillyStubbsTears]

BigH

I’m not directly comparing our performance this year to the 2007 vintage. That squad was obviously far stronger.

What I’m saying is that, relative to expectations, the two seasons are very similar.

Poor end to the previous season.

Poor start to this season.

Slowly improving results in Oct & Nov, but with a style of play that generally underwhelmed, and looked awful when we didn’t win. (The Yeovil performance in Dec 07 was appalling, but not that much worse than the ploddingly witless and virtually chanceless draws we’d ground out against Tranmere and Brighton in the previous 2 home games.)

An inability to get any consistent form going (only 2 back to back wins in the first 20 league games of 2007/08 from that squad was awful.)

And then the real click coming over the Xmas period.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Uncanny

In 2007-08, the six matches up to and including New Year’s Day went DLWWWD

This year, the same 6 are LDWWWD

I remember wondering if the draw at Walsall on 1 Jan 2008 marked the end of our uptick in form. In fact, we were at the early stages of a run of P16 W13 D1 L2 which took us to 2nd place.

Let’s have a repeat of that run please.

[Filo]

Does our league position run in 10 year cycles?

[anne honemous]

Uncanny

In 2007-08, the six matches up to and including New Year’s Day went DLWWWD

This year, the same 6 are LDWWWD

I remember wondering if the draw at Walsall on 1 Jan 2008 marked the end of our uptick in form. In fact, we were at the early stages of a run of P16 W13 D1 L2 which took us to 2nd place.

Let’s have a repeat of that run please.

IIRC, if we'd won that game at Walsall then we could have gone up to second in the league at that point.

Wasn't it the start of a run of form where we had to play all the promotion contenders? Leeds, Swansea, Carlisle, etc?

[IDM]

We should have won that game at Walsall but for a close miss by Lewis Guy near the end..

[les@donr]

And in that 2007/08 promotion season we beat Northampton Town on Boxing Day. Is it an omen. Who knows. Unlikely but not impossible.
Seasons with 7/8 are significant or at least the last 2 are.
1997/98 and 2007/08  Both will live long in the memory, one very sad and one very happy. 2017/18 ???

We beat Northampton 1-0 In 1983 and were promoted that season. The game was also played on December 26th! Mmmm!

We had that shocking collapse when we were last relegated and not many of us saw that coming so why shouldn’t we have the opposite run this season.
Right now the top six isn’t too far away and a good January could see us right on the edge of it.
February hasn’t been good to us in recent years but nothing stays the same does it.

I hope we do make the playoffs because our record in them is good.

That is an understatement, our record is 100%.

[drfchound]

And in that 2007/08 promotion season we beat Northampton Town on Boxing Day. Is it an omen. Who knows. Unlikely but not impossible.
Seasons with 7/8 are significant or at least the last 2 are.
1997/98 and 2007/08  Both will live long in the memory, one very sad and one very happy. 2017/18 ???

We beat Northampton 1-0 In 1983 and were promoted that season. The game was also played on December 26th! Mmmm!

We had that shocking collapse when we were last relegated and not many of us saw that coming so why shouldn’t we have the opposite run this season.
Right now the top six isn’t too far away and a good January could see us right on the edge of it.
February hasn’t been good to us in recent years but nothing stays the same does it.

I hope we do make the playoffs because our record in them is good.

That is an understatement, our record is 100%.

I know mate, including Daggers of course, two out of two.