Armed police will be on Standby on saturday.

[silent majority]

A few things I found strange though. Why show match ticket to get outbthe station? What if we were just random people going to Rotherham?

Secondly how poorly designed is that exit from the stadium?  It just didn't work.

You don't have to have a match ticket to exit a station, there is still freedom of movement in this country.

[Filo]

At a meeting with SY Police earlier this season the officer who is responsible for football told us that he was in Barcelona with his family at the time the terrorists struck there.

For that reason he has made armed Police available at all major games this season. This has been discussed on this forum before and was pointed out then that this would be for our safety, and if spotted it would be preferable if we didn't engage with them.

But why make a point of it in the local press for this particular match?

[silent majority]

At a meeting with SY Police earlier this season the officer who is responsible for football told us that he was in Barcelona with his family at the time the terrorists struck there.

For that reason he has made armed Police available at all major games this season. This has been discussed on this forum before and was pointed out then that this would be for our safety, and if spotted it would be preferable if we didn't engage with them.

But why make a point of it in the local press for this particular match?

Its politics. SY Police are playing a bigger game than just yesterdays derby clash.

[Filo]

At a meeting with SY Police earlier this season the officer who is responsible for football told us that he was in Barcelona with his family at the time the terrorists struck there.

For that reason he has made armed Police available at all major games this season. This has been discussed on this forum before and was pointed out then that this would be for our safety, and if spotted it would be preferable if we didn't engage with them.

But why make a point of it in the local press for this particular match?

Its politics. SY Police are playing a bigger game than just yesterdays derby clash.

There's eight South Yorkshire derby's this season, why chose this one to play politics?

If you mean they are trying to squeeze more money from clubs for policing, there are two much bigger derby's in Sheffield to play politics with

[RedJ]

A few things I found strange though. Why show match ticket to get outbthe station? What if we were just random people going to Rotherham?

Secondly how poorly designed is that exit from the stadium?  It just didn't work.

You don't have to have a match ticket to exit a station, there is still freedom of movement in this country.

They made a point of getting everyone on my train and I hear the one after to show their match tickets on the way out of the station.

And then held everyone up for about 45 minutes - but let random people go through (that were wearing Rovers stuff, so no, it wasn't just random commuters). I mean I see the point of a police escort but that was a bit weird. And the policeman at the top of the stairs told us where the away pub was in relation to the station - only for nobody to actually be allowed to leave if you ended up where everybody was being held.

[silent majority]

At a meeting with SY Police earlier this season the officer who is responsible for football told us that he was in Barcelona with his family at the time the terrorists struck there.

For that reason he has made armed Police available at all major games this season. This has been discussed on this forum before and was pointed out then that this would be for our safety, and if spotted it would be preferable if we didn't engage with them.

But why make a point of it in the local press for this particular match?

Its politics. SY Police are playing a bigger game than just yesterdays derby clash.

There's eight South Yorkshire derby's this season, why chose this one to play politics?

If you mean they are trying to squeeze more money from clubs for policing, there are two much bigger derby's in Sheffield to play politics with

Does it matter? They've adopted this position all season and our game was just another one in a long list.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43140824?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_sport&ns_source=facebook&ns_linkname=sport

[silent majority]

A few things I found strange though. Why show match ticket to get outbthe station? What if we were just random people going to Rotherham?

Secondly how poorly designed is that exit from the stadium?  It just didn't work.

You don't have to have a match ticket to exit a station, there is still freedom of movement in this country.

They made a point of getting everyone on my train and I hear the one after to show their match tickets on the way out of the station.

And then held everyone up for about 45 minutes - but let random people go through (that were wearing Rovers stuff, so no, it wasn't just random commuters). I mean I see the point of a police escort but that was a bit weird. And the policeman at the top of the stairs told us where the away pub was in relation to the station - only for nobody to actually be allowed to leave if you ended up where everybody was being held.

The problem is our fault. What I mean by that is that as football supporters we allow ourselves to be treated this way. If half the laws that apply to football supporters were foisted on the general public the country would be in uproar and claims of living in a Police state would be justified.

At the FSF we call it 'accept and expect'. We continue to accept that our freedoms are tossed to one side when we attend games of football and we also expect to be treated that way.

[RedJ]

Yeah but there's f**k all you can actually do about it at the exact time it's happening to you if you actually want to see the game you've paid to go to. Doesn't make it right but you don't have much choice in the moment.

[Filo]

Yeah but there's f**k all you can actually do about it at the exact time it's happening to you if you actually want to see the game you've paid to go to. Doesn't make it right but you don't have much choice in the moment.

I agree, but afterwards there is, if only a handful of those that got dispersal orders yesterday came forward and allowed a case to be built by organisatiins such as the FSF around the way football fans are treated then maybe there could be change. While football fans bleat and accept such treatment things will never change

[Filo]

At a meeting with SY Police earlier this season the officer who is responsible for football told us that he was in Barcelona with his family at the time the terrorists struck there.

For that reason he has made armed Police available at all major games this season. This has been discussed on this forum before and was pointed out then that this would be for our safety, and if spotted it would be preferable if we didn't engage with them.

But why make a point of it in the local press for this particular match?

Its politics. SY Police are playing a bigger game than just yesterdays derby clash.

There's eight South Yorkshire derby's this season, why chose this one to play politics?

If you mean they are trying to squeeze more money from clubs for policing, there are two much bigger derby's in Sheffield to play politics with

Does it matter? They've adopted this position all season and our game was just another one in a long list.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43140824?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_sport&ns_source=facebook&ns_linkname=sport

That article mentions only football, it would be interesting to know who meets to cost of events like Leger week, particurlally Leger day when thousands of pissed up Geordies are given free reign of Doncaster Town Centre, should the racecourse cover these costs?

[silent majority]

Filo, they're after the many millions that football has. Its nothing new, the Met Police have been banging on about wealthy London clubs for the last few years, and the Mayor has joined in on that debate too. But every time it goes through the courts it quite rightly gets rejected.