Stats - goals (assists) per min played

[Bristol Red Rover]

Here's an interesting stat, make of it what you will. Up to today's game. Minutes per league goal this season, number of goals, (minutes per assist). Data via transfermarkt.com

Ben Khemis 54  1   ( -- ) Given as own goal, I beg to differ.
Anderson  208  2   ( -- )
May           285   4  (1141)
Marquis     291  11  (1068)
Kiwomya    378  1   (378)
Whiteman  419  6   ( -- )
Beestin      536   2  (357)
Mandeville 649   1   ( -- )
Butler         814  3   (2441)
Copps        820   3   (2460)
Mason        834   3  (1251) yeah, pens...
Baudry       1058  1  (1058)
Blair           1067  2  (2134)
Rowe         1620  2  (463)

[drfchound]

Copps and Rowes’ stats include a couple of pens.
Impressive assist stats for Rowe though considering how many games he has played.

[Bristol Red Rover]

Rowe would also fare much better if I'd included Cup games.

What stood out for me was May's contribution.

[drfchound]

Yep, stat can be deceiving though.
He hasn’t had that much game time this season has he.
I am not convinced that May has what it takes to be good consistently at our level.

[DonnyOsmond]

Beestin may have already taken Copps crown, going from that.

[Bristol Red Rover]

May's had just over a third of the match time Marquis has had.

I totally agree that stats only give part of the picture, and May seemed to fall off form as time went on. Still, he obviously has something and with a bit more nouse and toughening up over the coming couple of years, who knows. Would be silly to throw him away IMO.

[drfchound]

May's had just over a third of the match time Marquis has had.

I totally agree that stats only give part of the picture, and May seemed to fall off form as time went on. Still, he obviously has something and with a bit more nouse and toughening up over the coming couple of years, who knows. Would be silly to throw him away IMO.

Agreed, he might still prove himself but has seemed to struggle more this season than last in L2.

[RoversAlias]

Looked up our overall stats based on this thread and that discussion about the merits of Rowe is looking very silly indeed. He has 7 league assists this season which is our squad's best and with today's game factored in now has 9 goals in all competitions too.

Beestin's 5 assists is very good too, if he adds a few more goals he can be a seriously dangerous player next season.

[drfchound]

Looked up our overall stats based on this thread and that discussion about the merits of Rowe is looking very silly indeed. He has 7 league assists this season which is our squad's best and with today's game factored in now has 9 goals in all competitions too.

Beestin's 5 assists is very good too, if he adds a few more goals he can be a seriously dangerous player next season.

I assume you mean the discussion recently about offloading Rowe at the end of the season RA.
As for Beestin, I rate him highly and he is getting better.

[RoversAlias]

Looked up our overall stats based on this thread and that discussion about the merits of Rowe is looking very silly indeed. He has 7 league assists this season which is our squad's best and with today's game factored in now has 9 goals in all competitions too.

Beestin's 5 assists is very good too, if he adds a few more goals he can be a seriously dangerous player next season.

I assume you mean the discussion recently about offloading Rowe at the end of the season RA.
As for Beestin, I rate him highly and he is getting better.

I do indeed. Thought I'd check his overall stats after seeing the good minutes-per rates he had in BRR's OP and it backs up what I thought, he's one of our most productive players even despite the consensus that he hasn't been consistent this season. 4 of his goals were in the FA Cup, yes, but they're still important games to me, and his assist rate speaks for itself against the rest of our squad.

Beestin appears to be our most promising young talent at the moment, great to see how he's grown over the course of the campaign.

[scawsby steve]

Here's an interesting stat, make of it what you will. Up to today's game. Minutes per league goal this season, number of goals, (minutes per assist). Data via transfermarkt.com

Ben Khemis 54  1   ( -- ) Given as own goal, I beg to differ.
Anderson  208  2   ( -- )
May           285   4  (1141)
Marquis     291  11  (1068)
Kiwomya    378  1   (378)
Whiteman  419  6   ( -- )
Beestin      536   2  (357)
Mandeville 649   1   ( -- )
Butler         814  3   (2441)
Copps        820   3   (2460)
Mason        834   3  (1251) yeah, pens...
Baudry       1058  1  (1058)
Blair           1067  2  (2134)
Rowe         1620  2  (463)

Those stats aren't 100% correct, BRR; Rowe had only scored one league goal before today.

[scawsby steve]

Copps and Rowes’ stats include a couple of pens.
Impressive assist stats for Rowe though considering how many games he has played.

Sorry for being pedantic, Hound, but Tommy hasn't taken a penalty this season, and Copps has only scored one in the league.

[RoversAlias]

Not sure where you're getting your info Steve, but Rowe did have two league goals before today. Shrewsbury and Walsall were the opponents.

On the penalties you are right though I think, Copps' scored a penalty at Blackburn and I can't recall either of the above Rowe goals being spot kicks.

[drfchound]

Copps and Rowes’ stats include a couple of pens.
Impressive assist stats for Rowe though considering how many games he has played.

Sorry for being pedantic, Hound, but Tommy hasn't taken a penalty this season, and Copps has only scored one in the league.

Yes, you are correct, I had in my mind that Copps had scored two pens this season.
I forgot that one of them was at Ebbsfleet.

[selby]

   Its a good job nobody has added Mays development game stats.

[Bristol Red Rover]

   Its a good job nobody has added Mays development game stats.

Especially someone who doesn't get the stats correct  

[scawsby steve]

Sorry, guys, I completely forgot about Tommy's late goal at Walsall. It must have been that the performance was so sh*te that I'd wiped it from my memory banks. I stand completely and utterly corrected.

[wilts rover]

Coppinger's stats also stand out to me. I thought he was involved in a lot of our goals, but according to these stats he has 1 assist all season.

Another interesting one is a player BRR missed out

Houghton - played 29 0 goals 1 assist (2227 mins)

If he is supposed to be our creative midfield player - what is he bringing to the team?

[GazLaz]

Coppinger's stats also stand out to me. I thought he was involved in a lot of our goals, but according to these stats he has 1 assist all season.

Another interesting one is a player BRR missed out

Houghton - played 29 0 goals 1 assist (2227 mins)

If he is supposed to be our creative midfield player - what is he bringing to the team?

Coppingers final ball and finishing have always been poor for someone of his ability.

As for Houghton, I wouldn’t class him as a creative player.

[DonnyOsmond]

Houghton's been at the base breaking things up, he hasn't been threading balls through.

Like Gaz says Coppinger's final ball and his crossing have always been a bit average, he got a few assists last season but even my Gran could at the tip of the diamond for us last season. His dribbling and ball control is what sets him apart. Beestin has a much better eye for a pass, he could become a more effective version of Coppinger which in turn would lead to him having what it takes to play at a level Coppinger couldn't sustain.

[Bristol Red Rover]

..... Beestin has a much better eye for a pass, he could become a more effective version of Coppinger which in turn would lead to him having what it takes to play at a level Coppinger couldn't sustain.

Coppinger held his own at Championship level. But I agree with what you said re Beestin, the only problem there is he may be too good for us, especially of we remain in League 1 after next season.

[adamtherover]

Coppinger's stats also stand out to me. I thought he was involved in a lot of our goals, but according to these stats he has 1 assist all season.

Another interesting one is a player BRR missed out

Houghton - played 29 0 goals 1 assist (2227 mins)

If he is supposed to be our creative midfield player - what is he bringing to the team?

2nd goal v Bradford, he picked out a pass that beat 5 closely packed city players, Alfie passed it onto john who buried it, Alfie gets the assist but cops created it.  Stats can be misleading...

[drfchound]

Well I challenge those stats if Copps is only getting one assist.
Do they include goals scored from corners?
I can certainly remember a few goals that have been scored from a Coppinger corner.

As for Houghton, well he plays as a holding defensive midfielder.

[RedJ]

Coppinger is involved in much of our build up play. He may not play the final ball every time (as the stats show) but you can bet he's played a part in most of our goals.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

If you ask anyone from outside the club, they'll say Copps is our most influential player. For example, at Rotherham in the pub before the game a Millers fan was trying to wind me up, asking if Copps is allowed to bring his zimmer frame on the pitch. I didn't bite and hoped the man himself would do the talking.

After the game all my Millers mates said Copps was the class act from both sides. He provided the few bits of quality on show that day. (Apart from Marquis' goal which was a class finish)

[scawsby steve]

If you ask anyone from outside the club, they'll say Copps is our most influential player. For example, at Rotherham in the pub before the game a Millers fan was trying to wind me up, asking if Copps is allowed to bring his zimmer frame on the pitch. I didn't bite and hoped the man himself would do the talking.

After the game all my Millers mates said Copps was the class act from both sides. He provided the few bits of quality on show that day. (Apart from Marquis' goal which was a class finish)

If you asked any football supporter from anywhere in the country to name one single Rovers player, I think the answer every time would be Copps.