Paul Goodwin

[Ldr]

I'm sure all the whets on here IF DF came up to them and said to them that he left cos of the budget they would say it was a lie

So Dave, let me get this right, the club said it was nothing to do with the budget, his resignation email didn't mention budget and he hasn't issued a statement since he left claiming it was budget talks that upset him.

Yet you think us 'wets' should believe it is?

It really is laughable now, and the club NEVER said 'it was nothing to do with the budget'.
In fact, in his piece in the Free Press, Gavin was very careful not to do that. 

They've not denied that there was Russian interference either, by your logic that must be true as well

Similarly they've failed to deny there's an imminent attack by Godzilla and/or Mothra.

On the same logic this is presumably on the cards as well. Exciting times at the Keepmoat ahead kids.

Godzilla as midfield anchor?

[Glyn_Wigley]

I'm sure all the whets on here IF DF came up to them and said to them that he left cos of the budget they would say it was a lie

So Dave, let me get this right, the club said it was nothing to do with the budget, his resignation email didn't mention budget and he hasn't issued a statement since he left claiming it was budget talks that upset him.

Yet you think us 'wets' should believe it is?

It really is laughable now, and the club NEVER said 'it was nothing to do with the budget'.
In fact, in his piece in the Free Press, Gavin was very careful not to do that. 

He was very careful not to say 'Lifelong Supporter is a total Kitson' too.

[CottyRover]

I'm sure all the whets on here IF DF came up to them and said to them that he left cos of the budget they would say it was a lie

So Dave, let me get this right, the club said it was nothing to do with the budget, his resignation email didn't mention budget and he hasn't issued a statement since he left claiming it was budget talks that upset him.

Yet you think us 'wets' should believe it is?

It really is laughable now, and the club NEVER said 'it was nothing to do with the budget'.
In fact, in his piece in the Free Press, Gavin was very careful not to do that. 

In the DIP Gavin was clearly being diplomatic and not wanting to appear like he was attacking  Ferguson. He does say they were surprised which doesn't suggest a big argument about the "b" word. All along the official stance has been to be fair to Ferguson and not attack him. This could be interpreted as lies and keeping fans in the dark, but to me it's just good practice.

[Drover]

I'm sure all the whets on here IF DF came up to them and said to them that he left cos of the budget they would say it was a lie

So Dave, let me get this right, the club said it was nothing to do with the budget, his resignation email didn't mention budget and he hasn't issued a statement since he left claiming it was budget talks that upset him.

Yet you think us 'wets' should believe it is?

Is that true?I did'nt realise they had said that.I thought they had just denied certain things.Which ofcourse,can lead to misinterpretation and word twisting.If I had realised they had actually stated,it was nothing to do with the Budget,I would have believed it.Upto now,I have tried to keep an open mind on it all.

[vaya]

I'm sure all the whets on here IF DF came up to them and said to them that he left cos of the budget they would say it was a lie

So Dave, let me get this right, the club said it was nothing to do with the budget, his resignation email didn't mention budget and he hasn't issued a statement since he left claiming it was budget talks that upset him.

Yet you think us 'wets' should believe it is?

It really is laughable now, and the club NEVER said 'it was nothing to do with the budget'.
In fact, in his piece in the Free Press, Gavin was very careful not to do that. 

They've not denied that there was Russian interference either, by your logic that must be true as well

Similarly they've failed to deny there's an imminent attack by Godzilla and/or Mothra.

On the same logic this is presumably on the cards as well. Exciting times at the Keepmoat ahead kids.

Godzilla as midfield anchor?

Big unit, but lacks mobility.

Never proved an issue for Jan Molby though, admittedly.

[RedJ]

Probably be better than James Harper.

[Nudga]

Who cares? Let's just watch a bit of footy.

[Drover]

He only did that at Preston and struggled.
We can only safely say he failed if mcann takes this squad much higher up the table.

He loaned Scott Wooton,Ben Amos, Ryan Tunnicliffe and Nicky Ajose from Man utd for Peterborough in one season

Don’t know about the others but he bought Ajose didn’t sign him on loan and ben Amos loan was a good few years earlier than that

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11764/8388873/darren-ferguson-rejects-claims-of-nepotism-over-loanees-from-manchester-united

In 6 years at Posh,Fergie only had 4 loan players from MUFC.

Ben Amos played 1 game in 2009
Scott Wootton played 11 games in 2011-12 and 2 games in 2013
Davide Petrucci played 4 games in 2013
and Ryan Tunnicliffe played 27 games in 2011-12
Im not certain,due to seasons overlapping calendar years,but it looks like he only had 2 loans from MUFC at any one time.Nicky Ajose was bought,never loaned.
Maybe the Sky Sports writer went to the same Journalist's school as Paul Goodwin?
 

[the vicar]

I'm sure all the whets on here IF DF came up to them and said to them that he left cos of the budget they would say it was a lie

So Dave, let me get this right, the club said it was nothing to do with the budget, his resignation email didn't mention budget and he hasn't issued a statement since he left claiming it was budget talks that upset him.

Yet you think us 'wets' should believe it is?

It really is laughable now, and the club NEVER said 'it was nothing to do with the budget'.
In fact, in his piece in the Free Press, Gavin was very careful not to do that. 

They've not denied that there was Russian interference either, by your logic that must be true as well

what a stupid comparison if that's all you can come back with its about time you pack it in lol

[selby]

  Interesting discussion on talksport about Zaha when he came back to Crystal Palace from Man U.  Warnock was the manager at the Palace at the time, and said that the player told him he had never spoken to the manager (Fergie snr ) in all the time he was there.
   In fact he said that he had never acknowledged him even when passing in the corridor.
   That is the exact same way our Fergie treated some of our younger players according to a conversation I had with some parents of the players when I asked them why they were out of the team.
    They answered they don't know as the manager would not talk to them ( the players ) and totally ignored them.
  Warnock said Zaha was very dipondent and feared he would not get back to his usual state at one time.
   We had a chip off the old block with junior.

[Ldr]

I'm sure all the whets on here IF DF came up to them and said to them that he left cos of the budget they would say it was a lie

So Dave, let me get this right, the club said it was nothing to do with the budget, his resignation email didn't mention budget and he hasn't issued a statement since he left claiming it was budget talks that upset him.

Yet you think us 'wets' should believe it is?

It really is laughable now, and the club NEVER said 'it was nothing to do with the budget'.
In fact, in his piece in the Free Press, Gavin was very careful not to do that. 

They've not denied that there was Russian interference either, by your logic that must be true as well

what a stupid comparison if that's all you can come back with its about time you pack it in lol

Its a suggestion without any evidence just like yours. You have your opinion and you have decided that is fact, pretty absurd when someone else does it isnt it?

[scawsby steve]

I’ve read the paper and I don’t see anything wrong with what Paul has said at all.

He’s predicted we’ll finish 12th which I think is a realistic aim and an improvement on last season. All the Free Press guys have been open about the fact that we could challenge for promotion but we can’t expect promotion as there are too many unknowns. Again this is realism.

Paul Goodwin expresses the opinion that we needed to bring in a goalscorer and an experienced midfield destroyer. It’s an opinion I share and so do many on here I think. We haven’t addressed those areas and on that basis how could you be expected to make any brash statements about a march to the Championship?

I think the whole Q&A is fair, balanced and an interesting read.

Nowhere does Paul or anyone else state that Ferguson left because he wanted a bigger budget.

Sorry Jonathan, you're wrong about that last sentence; the words I used in the OP are the exact words that Paul used. Go back and read the article again.

[dickos1]

He only did that at Preston and struggled.
We can only safely say he failed if mcann takes this squad much higher up the table.

He loaned Scott Wooton,Ben Amos, Ryan Tunnicliffe and Nicky Ajose from Man utd for Peterborough in one season

Don’t know about the others but he bought Ajose didn’t sign him on loan and ben Amos loan was a good few years earlier than that

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11764/8388873/darren-ferguson-rejects-claims-of-nepotism-over-loanees-from-manchester-united

On Ajose careers statistics it states he only went on loan to bury from Man U and then signed for posh on a permanent.

Anyhow as someone else has stated he only ever took 4 players on loan from Man U during his rein

[Al4475]

He had more at Preston (including wellbeck?) did he not?

[Jonathan]

I’ve read the paper and I don’t see anything wrong with what Paul has said at all.

He’s predicted we’ll finish 12th which I think is a realistic aim and an improvement on last season. All the Free Press guys have been open about the fact that we could challenge for promotion but we can’t expect promotion as there are too many unknowns. Again this is realism.

Paul Goodwin expresses the opinion that we needed to bring in a goalscorer and an experienced midfield destroyer. It’s an opinion I share and so do many on here I think. We haven’t addressed those areas and on that basis how could you be expected to make any brash statements about a march to the Championship?

I think the whole Q&A is fair, balanced and an interesting read.

Nowhere does Paul or anyone else state that Ferguson left because he wanted a bigger budget.

Sorry Jonathan, you're wrong about that last sentence; the words I used in the OP are the exact words that Paul used. Go back and read the article again.

It doesn’t say that’s why he left. And that was my point. I’ve no doubt that most managers want more to spend on players.

[sedwardsdrfc]

The whole ferguson getting players from his dad is just a lazy criticism because its not really true. But i would say at this level Posh are one of the easier clubs to be successful they've always been decent in the transfer market regardless of (and not really because of the) manager so the tools were always there.

[dickos1]

He had more at Preston (including wellbeck?) did he not?

Yeah,
I said he got some at Preston earlier in the thread they didn’t help him much though

[Al4475]

I thought he had done! Lol. To be fair I don't really give a rat's arse tho, he had his chance with Rovers and it's passed - same as loads more managers - grant's go now - good luck to him!

[CottyRover]

Have now seen on line the article that started this thread. This is a discussion between the three football writers on the DFP, airing their personal opinions about the coming season. Goodwin may have spoken to DF but there is nothing in there to say he has. It is just as likely to be pure speculation. He is giving a personal opinion, as they all are, about how Rovers might fare. There is nothing deep and meaningful to be taken from this.

[silent majority]

Have to agree Cotty Rover. In another article he says this;

'We are led to believe Ferguson wanted more funds for more experienced players, so his departure was probably inevitable somewhere down the line.'

That's hardly come from a conversation with DF, and is, as you say, pure speculation.

[CottyRover]

If the DFP journalists are  doing their job properly they will surely have tried to get an interview with Ferguson, but if they had been successful I think it would have been worded rather more strongly than "we are led to believe"