Leeds cheating

[phil old leake]

This is just typical of business in general

[selby]

  Paul they were formed when the original Leeds team Leeds City were expelled from the football league for illegal payments to players and staff.
  The chairman of the new club wanted to buy Huddersfield Town,and move the club to play in Leeds. Huddersfield at the time were the best team probably in the world winning the first division championship three times in succession the first team  to do so, and over a ten year period the most successful team Yorkshire has ever had.
 In my time they as a club have been nothing but trouble, having to play games at Hull City because of crowd trouble, Revie offering Alan Ball £20,000 in a carrier bag to play for Leeds while an Everton player, Going bust for millions of pounds and tricking the FA to keep out of the fourth division, and not paying their debts on more than one occasion.
 Along with clubs like Bolton , Birmingham, Leicester, Derby County etc they have got away with murder because of economy of size, while good clubs like Hereford, York City, Stockport County, etc. have been fed to the lions for far less problems.
  They exist, I have no respect,no feelings of endearment to them at all, they are one of the clubs I hope forever reap the rewards of forever spending their time in the Championship being one of the original teams that voted to cast all the other clubs aside never contemplating they could be relegated and replaced by clubs like Blackpool and Bournmouth.
  To me they represent  every thing that is wrong with football, their existing chairman at the start of the season wanting the Championship TV money all for themselves and to cast the two lower leagues adrift without a care in the world.
  So my hope is they do not go up, fall into the money tree doo, and are dealt correctly like other clubs have been( see above) and are chucked out of the league once and for all, but would have sympathy for any none league competition that had that lot dropped on them.
 My dream may never come true, but one thing is for certain they will never have the respect I have for my team and other local FL sides.

[phil old leake]

its All down to the media and pundits pushing the fact that they’re a big team who should be in the premiership. Well they’re not otherwise they’d be there and wouldn’t be playing league 1 and championship. It’s about time their fans and the media got over their selves and realised that they’re now no longer a footballing giant

[Campsall rover]

Well, you know what they say about Leopards changing their spots:
https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/liquidators-finally-draw-a-line-under-leeds-united-s-2007-administration-with-less-than-750-000-paid-to-unsecured-creditors-1-9673129

Seriously, this has been dragging on for 12 years, and the football authorities still can't bring them to book.
What sort of message does that send?

Not just Leeds though is it. Leicester, Birmingham, Bolton, QPR, Derby, Bournemouth and  many others have been breaking fair play rules and running up some Massive debts.

[albie]

Campsall,

I think you are confusing different things.

This is not about breach of FFP rules, it is about not meeting financial obligations that apply to any business, not just football.

The issue is a matter of honouring your debts, and not exploiting others who have provided goods and services in good faith.

Both breaches are bad, of course......but this is using the process to avoid liabilities.

[Geoff Blakesley]

You miserable sods ! This is a Yorkshire club that may get back to the Premier League, do well and promote our region. I watched Donny in the 60's as a Thorne lad and then watched Leeds if they were at home and we were away. Maybe some of you guys need to leave the broad acres for 15 yrs or so and then realise it is Yorkshire that matters more than one in particular of it's towns.

[Campsall rover]

You miserable sods ! This is a Yorkshire club that may get back to the Premier League, do well and promote our region. I watched Donny in the 60's as a Thorne lad and then watched Leeds if they were at home and we were away. Maybe some of you guys need to leave the broad acres for 15 yrs or so and then realise it is Yorkshire that matters more than one in particular of it's towns.

There talks a man with a white rose on his lapel. Well said.
Can’t wait for a week on Friday to fly
the White rose flag ( figuratively speaking )
at Trent Bridge.

[selby]

  Yeh, and when their chairman tried to corner the lower leagues TV money for the Championship, and call it the premiership two, and tried to set up an Italian TV company to sell the games, he was thinking of the broad acres all the time then.
 And that was just last September oh ye of short memories.He is not in it to put money in to football and if he can get ours he would do, in fact he tried to.

[idler]

We just won 4-1 to re-ignite our play off push and we have a thread running to three pages about another club.
There are some sad people out there.

[Campsall rover]

We just won 4-1 to re-ignite our play off push and we have a thread running to three pages about another club.
There are some sad people out there.

The obsession battering Leeds is really sad Idler.  I don’t know why i get dragged into it to be honest.

[selby]

 Idler, there are lots of blind, deaf, and short memories, and  ignorant of the threat club owners like Leeds have to clubs like ours as well, going around with their head stuck in the sand with their arses showing.
  The greedy barstewards would not give clubs like ours a seconds thought.

[Geoff Blakesley]

  Yeh, and when their chairman tried to corner the lower leagues TV money for the Championship, and call it the premiership two, and tried to set up an Italian TV company to sell the games, he was thinking of the broad acres all the time then.
 And that was just last September oh ye of short memories.He is not in it to put money in to football and if he can get ours he would do, in fact he tried to.

As I said there are lots of miserable sods that make this forum an embarrassment

[Campsall rover]

Idler, there are lots of blind, deaf, and short memories, and  ignorant of the threat club owners like Leeds have to clubs like ours as well, going around with their head stuck in the sand with their arses showing.
  The greedy barstewards would not give clubs like ours a seconds thought.

But your obsession with hating Leeds is not healthy Brian. There are are numerous clubs the same.
It is not the CLUBS fault they have had unscrupulous owners is it. Seem to remember WE HAD ONE.

[NickDRFC]

If people want to read about our performance or result against Bristol Rovers, I recommend one of the following threads (please note this is not an exhaustive list):

- New formation
- Sadlier
- Ali Crawford
- Donny v Bristol (highlights)
- Vintage Copps tonight
- Return of Beestin
- Bristol Rovers
- Rovers v Gas Vblog
- Let's talk about the Bristol Rovers game

If you don't want to read about people criticising Leeds then I'd suggest avoiding threads with titles like "Leeds cheating" - there's pretty fair warning of the content right there.

[Campsall rover]

This is going to be my last post on this topic as it’s getting boring.
The squad of British/Irish only players that Leeds had in the early 70’s has to be the best there has ever been. Every one was a full international and most were home grown through the youth system, with the exception of Three/Four players.
Sprake, Harvey, Reaney, Cooper, Madeley, Charlton, Hunter, McQueen, Cherry, F Gray, Bremner, Giles, Bates, Yorath, Lorimer, E Gray, Clarke, Jones, & Jordan.
Sorry Doncaster born Mick Bates was the only one without an International cap.
Some squad of home grown players that was.

[selby]

 Paul I don't hate Weeds at all, I totally dismiss them, there is a difference, but will forever discuss and think of that club the same way they have treat the rest of the local sides, which is the same as me, they dismiss any thought of us.
   At the beginning of this season Paul, that club put forward plans to  cast the two lower leagues away, monopolise all the TV money and did not give too hoots about the repercussions to any of the clubs, they attended and organised with other clubs in the championship meetings that we and other lower divisions were not in attendance at.
 They don't give two figs about us, they are poison if given the opportunity, living in false hope of regaining when they were a force for a fleeting time last century, and still trying to live off it while losing  a fortune every week, long may it last. 

[RoversAlias]

Donny Whites in the midst.

[idler]

RoversAlias. I've watched the Rovers since 1958 and lived in Bradford since 1978. I pass Elland Rd. every time that I come across to the Keepmoat. It would have been far easier for me to jump ship and watch a higher placed team than continue supporting my home town team.
When I started watching football everybody supported their local team and usually had a second favourite. I was always happy to see any Yorkshire side do well.
I think that a lot of the younger supporters went to school with lads that rather than watch the Rovers watched Leeds and took the mickey out of the loyal Rovers fans. I married a Leeds girl and part of the family were Liverpool fans as that's where her dad originated from. No hassle there.
I worked and share pubs with Leeds,Huddersfield,Bradford City and Park Avenue fans. I always enjoy a natter and a bit of nobble with all of them.
I can take stick and give it back with a smile because I have seen my club rise from the depths of despair.
The big clubs have got far greedier over the years and the heaviest punishments seem to have been given to the smaller clubs. Peterborough,Swindon and Luton were all really affected points wise compared to Leeds,Leicester etc.
I read all threads on the forum even if it's one the that the title makes me think that it won't interest me.

[RoversAlias]

Love your post tbh Idler! Completely agree, I was just being mischievous last night.

When I was a kid at school, Rovers were in the Conference and not one of my classmates supported us. They were all baffled as to why I'd be at all interested in going to Belle Vue, since they all walked around supporting Man Utd, literally all of them, in the wake of them winning the treble, even the teacher tried to get in on it once because they too supported Man Utd! But it didn't matter, I had been bit by the Rovers bug at 6 years old and nothing was changing that.

[Donnywolf]

There is NOTHING to compare to the REAL feeling of supporting your home town Team.

I of course have a soft spot for Wolves again based on where my Dad came from but from being 6 or 7 he brought me to Rovers having adopted them as his Team too and I am glad he did.

I still remember walking over Pitch at Belle Vue on way to Cheltenham and looking at where my Dad would have stood by the Home Tunnel and thinking "this is for you - how great will it be for Rovers to be back in Tier 2 where we started our Supporting" I felt a little emotional

Later on I was mortified that we had lost but it came right in the end - and he would have been proud of his Team for sure.

[Geoff Blakesley]

Paul I don't hate Weeds at all, I totally dismiss them, there is a difference, but will forever discuss and think of that club the same way they have treat the rest of the local sides, which is the same as me, they dismiss any thought of us.
   At the beginning of this season Paul, that club put forward plans to  cast the two lower leagues away, monopolise all the TV money and did not give too hoots about the repercussions to any of the clubs, they attended and organised with other clubs in the championship meetings that we and other lower divisions were not in attendance at.
 They don't give two figs about us, they are poison if given the opportunity, living in false hope of regaining when they were a force for a fleeting time last century, and still trying to live off it while losing  a fortune every week, long may it last. 

No shit mate. you need councilling - I do hope you haven't got any kids !

[Draytonian III]

It’s not just people on here who dislike Leeds Utd, there’s a song that’s sung at a lot of grounds about them with both sets of supporters at same time

[drfchound]

Paul I don't hate Weeds at all, I totally dismiss them, there is a difference, but will forever discuss and think of that club the same way they have treat the rest of the local sides, which is the same as me, they dismiss any thought of us.
   At the beginning of this season Paul, that club put forward plans to  cast the two lower leagues away, monopolise all the TV money and did not give too hoots about the repercussions to any of the clubs, they attended and organised with other clubs in the championship meetings that we and other lower divisions were not in attendance at.
 They don't give two figs about us, they are poison if given the opportunity, living in false hope of regaining when they were a force for a fleeting time last century, and still trying to live off it while losing  a fortune every week, long may it last. 

No shit mate. you need councilling - I do hope you haven't got any kids !





Why would selbys post have any relevance as to whether he has any kids ?

[redwine]

RoversAlias. I've watched the Rovers since 1958 and lived in Bradford since 1978. I pass Elland Rd. every time that I come across to the Keepmoat. It would have been far easier for me to jump ship and watch a higher placed team than continue supporting my home town team.
When I started watching football everybody supported their local team and usually had a second favourite. I was always happy to see any Yorkshire side do well.
I think that a lot of the younger supporters went to school with lads that rather than watch the Rovers watched Leeds and took the mickey out of the loyal Rovers fans. I married a Leeds girl and part of the family were Liverpool fans as that's where her dad originated from. No hassle there.
I worked and share pubs with Leeds,Huddersfield,Bradford City and Park Avenue fans. I always enjoy a natter and a bit of nobble with all of them.
I can take stick and give it back with a smile because I have seen my club rise from the depths of despair.
The big clubs have got far greedier over the years and the heaviest punishments seem to have been given to the smaller clubs. Peterborough,Swindon and Luton were all really affected points wise compared to Leeds,Leicester etc.
I read all threads on the forum even if it's one the that the title makes me think that it won't interest me.

Blimey, idler. I presume then that you will be using the A6110, passing close to my house.

[idler]

RoversAlias. I've watched the Rovers since 1958 and lived in Bradford since 1978. I pass Elland Rd. every time that I come across to the Keepmoat. It would have been far easier for me to jump ship and watch a higher placed team than continue supporting my home town team.
When I started watching football everybody supported their local team and usually had a second favourite. I was always happy to see any Yorkshire side do well.
I think that a lot of the younger supporters went to school with lads that rather than watch the Rovers watched Leeds and took the mickey out of the loyal Rovers fans. I married a Leeds girl and part of the family were Liverpool fans as that's where her dad originated from. No hassle there.
I worked and share pubs with Leeds,Huddersfield,Bradford City and Park Avenue fans. I always enjoy a natter and a bit of nobble with all of them.
I can take stick and give it back with a smile because I have seen my club rise from the depths of despair.
The big clubs have got far greedier over the years and the heaviest punishments seem to have been given to the smaller clubs. Peterborough,Swindon and Luton were all really affected points wise compared to Leeds,Leicester etc.
I read all threads on the forum even if it's one the that the title makes me think that it won't interest me.

Blimey, idler. I presume then that you will be using the A6110, passing close to my house.

Nearly. I use the M621 as it's quicker.
Always better passing when we win.😉