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BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Tory Election Manifesto
« Reply #30 on November 25, 2019, 08:51:44 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
When have Labour promised it for?



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SydneyRover

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Re: Tory Election Manifesto
« Reply #31 on November 25, 2019, 08:56:23 pm by SydneyRover »
"Four-day week: trial finds lower stress and increased productivity

Study of pilot at New Zealand firm finds staff were happier and 20% more productive''

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2019/feb/19/four-day-week-trial-study-finds-lower-stress-but-no-cut-in-output

Ah wurked darn pit on me ands an knees up to me nek in watter, these buggers don't want to wurk

SydneyRover

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Re: Tory Election Manifesto
« Reply #32 on November 25, 2019, 09:00:50 pm by SydneyRover »
"Rees-Mogg no-show for Tory manifesto launch fuels sidelining claims

Leader of the House absent from Telford after damaging comments and mistakes

The absence of Jacob Rees-Mogg at the Conservatives’ manifesto launch has fuelled speculation that he is under orders from Number 10 to keep a low profile following a series of damaging comments''

Saving him eh??

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/24/rees-mogg-no-show-for-manifesto-launch-fuels-theory

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Tory Election Manifesto
« Reply #33 on November 25, 2019, 09:10:02 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Thing is BB. You are doing PRECISELY what opponents of those other advanced did. According to them, it never was the right time for a minimum wage. Or an NHS. Or pensions. Or banning kids working down the pit.

That's what "conservative" means! Keeping the status quo. Not making radical change.

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Tory Election Manifesto
« Reply #34 on November 25, 2019, 09:11:58 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
If you go back far enough, there were conservative cavemen grunting, "Fire? Oooh...don't know about that. You might burn the cave down. And animal skin clothes? What's wrong with body hair and being a bit chilly?"

Bentley Bullet

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Re: Tory Election Manifesto
« Reply #35 on November 25, 2019, 09:18:36 pm by Bentley Bullet »
No BST, I'm talking sense, you're talking b*llocks.

SydneyRover

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Re: Tory Election Manifesto
« Reply #36 on November 25, 2019, 11:26:22 pm by SydneyRover »
Johnson sowing seeds of 'biggest Brexit crisis yet', warns Sir Ivan Rogers

Ex-EU ambassador says PM’s ‘strategy errors’ will make good trade deal harder to achieve

Johnson is sowing the seeds of “the biggest crisis of Brexit to date”, Britain’s former envoy to the EU Sir Ivan Rogers has said in a scathing verdict on the government’s “diplomatic amateurism”.

Less than three weeks before polling day, the man who resigned as the UK’s EU ambassador in January 2017 said Johnson was repeating Theresa May’s “strategy errors” and would soon find himself “unwisely” boxed in by his campaign promises.

When he launched the Conservative party manifesto on Sunday, Johnson repeated his promise not to extend an 11-month transition period that kicks in if the UK leaves the EU with the withdrawal agreement on 31 January 2020. Negotiating a trade deal with the EU in an unprecedentedly quick time is the centrepiece of the prime minister’s misleading pledge to “get Brexit done”.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/25/johnson-sowing-seeds-of-biggest-brexit-crisis-yet-warns-sir-ivan-rogers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Rogers


I thought a trade deal with the cavalry was going to save the UK  :)

SydneyRover

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Re: Tory Election Manifesto
« Reply #37 on November 25, 2019, 11:38:27 pm by SydneyRover »
If you care to read what Ivan Rogers says above it makes a lot of sense in that the tory strategy doesn't.

If you were going to buy a car you wouldn't tell the salesman that you'd just sold your only car a rusty broken down old Bentley for scrap and expect the best deal?  :)

DonnyOsmond

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Re: Tory Election Manifesto
« Reply #38 on November 26, 2019, 09:03:16 am by DonnyOsmond »
There's a time and place for everything, Billy boy, and now's not the time for promising a four-day working week, and you well know it!



You know the plan is within a decade? So no, it isn't the time for that.

Bentley Bullet

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Re: Tory Election Manifesto
« Reply #39 on November 26, 2019, 09:29:34 am by Bentley Bullet »
Making a long-range promise is even more conjecture than promising to carry out an immediate one. A week is a long time in politics time, never mind ten years!

If Corbyn wins the General election it will be a surprise to everyone, including him. If he does win and then wins the next one resulting in him still being PM in 10 years it'll be a miracle.

How easy is it to promise a miracle knowing you won't be there to fulfil it!

foxbat

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Re: Tory Election Manifesto
« Reply #40 on November 26, 2019, 10:48:22 am by foxbat »
If you consider yourself a conservative.

If you hold conservative values.

If you’re thinking of voting Conservative...

Please listen to the Conservatives you’ve always respected... like Heseltine & Grieve & Major.

Then don’t vote Conservative.

pib

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Re: Tory Election Manifesto
« Reply #41 on November 26, 2019, 12:18:18 pm by pib »
Making a long-range promise is even more conjecture than promising to carry out an immediate one. A week is a long time in politics time, never mind ten years!

If Corbyn wins the General election it will be a surprise to everyone, including him. If he does win and then wins the next one resulting in him still being PM in 10 years it'll be a miracle.

How easy is it to promise a miracle knowing you won't be there to fulfil it!

You can hardly campaign on a ticket of "I've got hardly any chance of winning a second term, let alone a first, so here's a load of short-term policy thinking" can he? I'm sure if he would, he'd be attacked just the same.

As someone who hasn't got any skin in the game of the VSC left/right, BST/BB debate, I don't think this thread makes pretty reading for you at all BB.

Bentley Bullet

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Re: Tory Election Manifesto
« Reply #42 on November 26, 2019, 12:27:50 pm by Bentley Bullet »
Just because people think this is a two-horse race between Tory and Labour they assume I'm a Tory voter because of my opinion of Labour. If it was just a two-horse race between those, I would definitely vote Tory - but it's not!

 

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