Recruitment Insight

[Move DRFC]

Lot of talk on here and rightly so about recruitment at the club. It's been done to death and there is justified question marks over our current recruitment policy. We don't know the ins and outs but we can all see we need a good 4/5 more players and have done since the summer. That and the striker situation seems bizarre to me.

However, I'd recommend giving this podcast a listen from 45 mins onwards. Great insight into EFL recruitment/scouting/analytical work that goes on behind the scenes to pick and choose players. Just loads of great insight to understand what its really like.

The guy speaking is a recruitment data analyst for Peterborough and got that job through Twitter. He's got pretty incredible insight into specific attributes of players and clearly knows his shit.

Here's a link to the podcast

Soundcloud - https://t.co/NTwzLJxA4r?amp=1

iTunes - https://t.co/Wfirs5gygj?amp=1

Spotify - https://t.co/VyFpZq56LS?amp=1

His Twitter is https://twitter.com/Blades_analytic

[silent majority]

I haven't listened to the one above, I started but it doesn't seem to go anywhere.

However, if you want to hear how scouting and recruitment is changing from the old fashioned way to a more AI influenced approach then this podcast is an eye opener;
 

https://player.fm/series/the-price-of-football/scouting

[Move DRFC]

Well i'd recommend finishing what you started I thought it gave some good insight.

[DonnyOsmond]

Both have similar points. A lot of clubs still just use the managers own small network of players, some clubs just ask agents who to sign and some just have people in flatcaps write on the back of a fag packet who to sign after watching a game. For the amount you can make from having a scouting/analytics team ala Brentford it's daft not to in this day and age but on that link Frostys posted it sounds like over 70% are still scouting like it's the 70s. I reckon were at the start of the movie Money Ball, it's still the old fashioned approach where people throw names around but the revolution is coming especially with clubs like Brentford and Liverpool, other clubs will take note and look to go for a similar method. Coventry already use data, O'Hare they have on loan for instance, he's the highest chance creator in the league and they used data to find him and realise he'd fit in with how they play. They've not spent massive sums compared to some teams in League One and they're doing very well. Not sure how much data we use as a club but I do hope we don't get left behind.

[Jonathan]

Both have similar points. A lot of clubs still just use the managers own small network of players, some clubs just ask agents who to sign and some just have people in flatcaps write on the back of a fag packet who to sign after watching a game. For the amount you can make from having a scouting/analytics team ala Brentford it's daft not to in this day and age but on that link Frostys posted it sounds like over 70% are still scouting like it's the 70s. I reckon were at the start of the movie Money Ball, it's still the old fashioned approach where people throw names around but the revolution is coming especially with clubs like Brentford and Liverpool, other clubs will take note and look to go for a similar method. Coventry already use data, O'Hare they have on loan for instance, he's the highest chance creator in the league and they used data to find him and realise he'd fit in with how they play. They've not spent massive sums compared to some teams in League One and they're doing very well. Not sure how much data we use as a club but I do hope we don't get left behind.

I think the dataset that we use is:

Is he available for loan? Yes / No

If the answer is No then we move on until it’s Yes.

And before anyone starts, of course I’m being facetious. It just seems that every time we are linked with adding to the squad it’s another loanee!

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Both have similar points. A lot of clubs still just use the managers own small network of players, some clubs just ask agents who to sign and some just have people in flatcaps write on the back of a fag packet who to sign after watching a game. For the amount you can make from having a scouting/analytics team ala Brentford it's daft not to in this day and age but on that link Frostys posted it sounds like over 70% are still scouting like it's the 70s. I reckon were at the start of the movie Money Ball, it's still the old fashioned approach where people throw names around but the revolution is coming especially with clubs like Brentford and Liverpool, other clubs will take note and look to go for a similar method. Coventry already use data, O'Hare they have on loan for instance, he's the highest chance creator in the league and they used data to find him and realise he'd fit in with how they play. They've not spent massive sums compared to some teams in League One and they're doing very well. Not sure how much data we use as a club but I do hope we don't get left behind.

I think the dataset that we use is:

Is he available for loan? Yes / No

If the answer is No then we move on until it’s Yes.

And before anyone starts, of course I’m being facetious. It just seems that every time we are linked with adding to the squad it’s another loanee!

The lad from Shrewsbury wouldn't be a loanee.

[Jonathan]

Both have similar points. A lot of clubs still just use the managers own small network of players, some clubs just ask agents who to sign and some just have people in flatcaps write on the back of a fag packet who to sign after watching a game. For the amount you can make from having a scouting/analytics team ala Brentford it's daft not to in this day and age but on that link Frostys posted it sounds like over 70% are still scouting like it's the 70s. I reckon were at the start of the movie Money Ball, it's still the old fashioned approach where people throw names around but the revolution is coming especially with clubs like Brentford and Liverpool, other clubs will take note and look to go for a similar method. Coventry already use data, O'Hare they have on loan for instance, he's the highest chance creator in the league and they used data to find him and realise he'd fit in with how they play. They've not spent massive sums compared to some teams in League One and they're doing very well. Not sure how much data we use as a club but I do hope we don't get left behind.

I think the dataset that we use is:

Is he available for loan? Yes / No

If the answer is No then we move on until it’s Yes.

And before anyone starts, of course I’m being facetious. It just seems that every time we are linked with adding to the squad it’s another loanee!

The lad from Shrewsbury wouldn't be a loanee.

Maybe that’s why we’ve said we’re not interested!

[firestarter]

Who’s “we” ? That seems to be the problem with communications lately. Different versions of events abound